1st Cycle Advise, Test-Masteron-EQ-Proviron

[obsessedwliftin]

Bro not flaming you. If you were a vet you would know that your set up is awful. My offer stands.

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[Mr Blonde]

EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT!!!!!!
You OBVIOUSLY do not eat enough.
This is a very simple equation. Calories in > Calories out ----> weight gained
EAT and READ.
You barely know what your taking about given the dosages and lack of ancillaries you listed.
Dont be a dumb ass, smart alec, punk kid doing what he wants cause he can.
Learn first, act later.


And Here is a first cycle by the way.

Cycle
1-10 Test e, 500mg/week, 250mg 2x/week.
3-10 HCG 500iu/week, 250iu 2x/week.

Ancillaries
Adex, .5mg EOD as needed for bloat
Letro, 2.5/2.5/2/1.5/1/.5mg (only for gyno)

PCT
11-14 HCGenerate 5caps ED
13-16 Unleashed/Post cycle 3caps ED
13-16 Forma 5pumps am, 5pumps pm
17-18 Forma 3pumps am, 3pumps pm

so you don't think the cycle i mentioned is any good?

what if i were a veteran would that change your mind?

i also read that if you take hcg during cycle your balls wont shrink at all yet here you recommend it as pct? was that bullshit?

 

[Mr Blonde]

Bro I am going to give you some sound advice here. Your cycle is terrible. First you should lower the test. You don't need 700 per week on your first cycle. Why chance all the estrogen sides? Also clomid can increase estrogen. So why the hell would you use it for gyno? I think you're confusing clomid and nolva. Which nolva sucks too. Your pct is fucked bro. Eq needs to be run a minimum of 16 weeks and it aromatizes as well. Seriously bro I don't have time right now but if you really want some help pm me and we will straighten this shit out before you fuck yourself up. May be tomorrow before I can do it but bro you simply need some real help here.

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well first of all thank you for trying to help me out, i really do appreciate it.

and let me say i am not running anything for at least another month so don't worry i am not going to shoot myself up today or tomorrow or anytime soon.

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Cool so let's make it a cycle were you will get excellent gains and not mess yourself up. Everybody is giving you shit bro because your diet and training probably need work. Your only 21 and aas is not a magic pill or shot. I will help you with all that. We just need to lay out a good game plan and make sure your setting yourself up for success. Other wise you are wasting good juice a lot of pins and alot of time.

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[Mr Blonde]

Its a joke because you are trying to take the easy way out. I guarantee you that your diet and training are no where near the level they need to be. If so you would grow. Period. I haven't been your weight since 17 years old and I wasn't even 5'9 and was under 8% bf. Not to mention you want to start with almost 3gs of gear. I am taking less than a tenth of that and growing great. Your results might be spectacular but they will be short lived. You can't come on here trying to force people to help you out. U think aas is the answer to your problems? It really is a joke. This "u help me or else" mentality you have going for u is all wrong. No one should help u at all. U go ahead and be hard headed and run your little cycle and ignore the advice of guys who have been at this game for most of your life. Like u said...its your body.

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now wait a minute, you make me sound like an asshole,

"This "u help me or else" mentality you have going for u is all wrong. No one should help u at all."

i never said u help me or else, i simply stated that since i am doing it anyway the logical answer if you were trying to help me would be to give me advice as opposed to not giving me advice, and that was strictly about my age, i wholeheartedly welcome any critique of the cycle which i outlined as i already have done,

if i came across as an asshole or as coercive in a childish way let me say that that was not my intention, so i apologize for that but i am sincerely asking for advice, i welcome any advice, also i am not doing any cycle for another month, but decided i needed advice from people who are experienced in this area so that is why i have come here,

again i appreciate any and all advice.

 

[training700]

Don't you think if i force fed myself 6 to 7 thousand calories daily

that i could gain at least 30 pounds and keep it?

no.. lol Not way described yourself and trouble gaining weight I'm wrestling at a college level and can keep my weight but am an easy keeper have trouble keeping weight off. lol you got height to weigh a good amount though

 

[NOS2.0]

so you don't think the cycle i mentioned is any good?

what if i were a veteran would that change your mind?

i also read that if you take hcg during cycle your balls wont shrink at all yet here you recommend it as pct? was that bullshit?

If you were a vet, you never would have laid a cycle out like that.
So ya, its not because its too advanced, its just bad.

Using HCG throughout should keep your balls working, in theory preventing shutdown. Using it at a higher dose, in this case double dose (some people go crazy on their dosing, but the listed dosages are very effective), is said to 'Jump Start" your PCT, making it a much easier transition.

And I highly doubt you will be able to eat 6-7000cals a day for even a week. Certainly not of clean food!
Maybe if it is fuckin cookies with 800cals each.
Eat a ton of fiber or you will be shitting stones!

 

[hydez27]

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[Mr Blonde]

So you want to do aas to win a street fight? Well when ur 215 pounds and solid and a 160 pound guy wants to kick your ass....a pipe to the side of the head isn't going to feel anything short of a hospital ride. Don't do aas because of street or any kind of fighting, it's the wrong attitude going in. Pm obsessed or something to get yourself straighten out.

r u serious? first of all if you hit someone with a steel pipe to the side of the head you are facing felony assault charges and possibly second degree murder charges.

and people who pull weapons in a street fight are pussies and are way more likely of being shot.

and no i don't want to do roids to win a street fight it's specifically for sanctioned MMA bouts.

but if it was? what would be wrong with it?

what is your motivation? just to look good? i don't see the how it could be the wrong attitude to want to get jacked to improve my fighting.

please explain, why is it the wrong attitude?

 

[Mr Blonde]

If you were a vet, you never would have laid a cycle out like that.
So ya, its not because its too advanced, its just bad.

Using HCG throughout should keep your balls working, in theory preventing shutdown. Using it at a higher dose, in this case double dose (some people go crazy on their dosing, but the listed dosages are very effective), is said to 'Jump Start" your PCT, making it a much easier transition.

And I highly doubt you will be able to eat 6-7000cals a day for even a week. Certainly not of clean food!
Maybe if it is fuckin cookies with 800cals each.
Eat a ton of fiber or you will be shitting stones!

i have a vitamix blender and i am thinking of blending 2500 calories of extremely good food three times daily adding powdered enzymes to aid in the breakdown of
the food, adding water to make it liquid and then using a funnel and a medical grade hose of the appropriate diameter to allow the liquid to pass through easily
and an electric pump of some sort bypass the whole chew swallow mechanism
and pump the food directly into my stomach,

using this technique to ingest a ridiculous amount of calories a day way higher than what i said i wanted to eat and a proper cycle of 2 to 3 grams of gear the results could be pretty retarded.

i try to eat and the truth is i get tired of chewing and swallowing until i get lock jaw and can't proceed.

i think that technique would be safe and effective for someone like me.

how about them apples?