1st Cycle Advise, Test-Masteron-EQ-Proviron

[Mr Blonde]

Hello, i am 21 years old 6'1 and 160 pounds and have tried desperately to gain weight for a long time to no avail, and after much deliberation regarding the pros and cons of doing steroids i have taken the firm and unwaivering decision to do a cycle.

I am an amateur MMA fighter fighting at 155 and want to go up at least one weight class(185) and if possible up to 205.

also bear in mind that any attempt to dissuade me from doing steroids because of my age or weight will fall on deaf ears, i am a health-freak (don't smoke don't drink) and i have already debated this at length and have decided that if i can keep side effects to a minimum and get my hpg axis up and running post cycle asap, doing steroids would be a win win situation.

so i am doing it one way or another and if you feel like it would be wrong to give me advice because i am still too "young" whatever the hell that means then perhaps the following will convince you, 1. I am an adult of sound mind and have the god given right to put any substance in my body which i desire so long as i am not putting any other person in danger. 2. i have mostly finished growing so i am not stunting my growth and with a properly planned PCT there will be no permanent effects to my hormone secreting organs. 3 considering the fact that i am gung-ho about this cycle there are only there is only one logical result as to what will happen if you don't give your advice and one logical result if you do give it. you not giving your advice if it is indeed sound would actually be destructive towards me doing a cycle in a safe and secure manner since i am doing it regardless of whether you give me advice or not. if you don't give it and have knowledge that could help me i will do it anyway and will be less better off than if you had given it and on the other hand if you do contribute to help a fellow out
i will be better off since i will obviously be cycling much more intelligently.


sorry for taking so long but i have read tons of threads where people refuse to give advice based on the fact that someone is not over 30 or something similar to that.

i also don't see anything wrong with taking advantage of science and avoiding the long and slow multiple year process of gaining muscle naturally, so now that you have an idea of where i am coming from and about the fact that steroids are a means to an end for me because once i reach my goals i will stop using permanently and try hard to maintain that weight by eating right and working out diligently, i would like to ask you veterans what you think of the following cycle,


keep in mind i want to see drastic gains and i am hoping the following will be adequate.


12 weeks Test Prop @ 700mg a week injected every day
12 weeks EQ @ 700mg a week injected every day
12 weeks Proviron @ 700 mg a week taken every day
12 weeks Masteron @ 700 mg a week injected every day
12 weeks HCG for 12 weeks @ 100 iu every day

(CLOMID DURING CYCLE ONLY IN CASE OF GYNO @ 100mg ED until 3 or 4 days after problem subsides)

PCT
Arimidex 50 mg first 2 weeks then 25mg for 2 weeks.
Creatine 5 grams ED indefinitely

#1 do you think i should eliminate the
masteron or keep it?

#2 what else should i add for PCT?

#3 store.bodybuildingfactory .comarticle-pct-post-cycle-therapy.html
They claim that certain natural supplements including zinc raise your endogenous testosterone levels during PCT, bunk?

i welcome any advice

 

[Satchel]

1)ur doses are to high...way to high.
2) u should not use aas.
3)pct needs major work
4)obviously u don't know how to eat yet.
5)bad idea

 

[Satchel]

O yea, eq at 12 weeks is dumb. Read more. Eat, train, sleep. REPEAT

 

[Satchel]

Eq at 12 weeks isn't worth the money...eat train sleep rinse and repeat. .. That's the best advice.

 

[jcmbbfuture]

This has to be a joke.

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[hydez27]

Terrible cycle for a first cycle


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[training700]

Just run EQ at 400-600 and test 500 be plenty also if your having trouble gaining weight at 160 you are not gonna be able to maintain a weight of 200 without aas should least put on another 10 lbs first.. also one cycle will put you maybe 180 depending on your diet if have that much trouble gaining weight.

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[NOS2.0]

EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT!!!!!!
You OBVIOUSLY do not eat enough.
This is a very simple equation. Calories in > Calories out ----> weight gained
EAT and READ.
You barely know what your taking about given the dosages and lack of ancillaries you listed.
Dont be a dumb ass, smart alec, punk kid doing what he wants cause he can.
Learn first, act later.


And Here is a first cycle by the way.

Cycle
1-10 Test e, 500mg/week, 250mg 2x/week.
3-10 HCG 500iu/week, 250iu 2x/week.

Ancillaries
Adex, .5mg EOD as needed for bloat
Letro, 2.5/2.5/2/1.5/1/.5mg (only for gyno)

PCT
11-14 HCGenerate 5caps ED
13-16 Unleashed/Post cycle 3caps ED
13-16 Forma 5pumps am, 5pumps pm
17-18 Forma 3pumps am, 3pumps pm

 

[searay]

why would you want to gain weight to be in a higher weight class for mma? 99% of fighters fight to keep there weight as low as possible come weigh in time to have the chance at fighting someone smaller than them. if mma is something you are serious about then you should def stay away from steroids. the only reason an mma fighter should use is if they are long in the tooth like r couture and need it for recovery. there is a zero chance of gaining 20-30 lbs using steroids and then stopping and keeping the gains. the only reason for you to take aas is if you just dont care about your health and your future as an athlete. an athlete of sound mind will wait as long as possible befor using aas and you have at least another 15 yrs before that even becomes possible. especially as an mma fighter.

 

[Mr Blonde]

why would you want to gain weight to be in a higher weight class for mma? 99% of fighters fight to keep there weight as low as possible come weigh in time to have the chance at fighting someone smaller than them. if mma is something you are serious about then you should def stay away from steroids. the only reason an mma fighter should use is if they are long in the tooth like r couture and need it for recovery. there is a zero chance of gaining 20-30 lbs using steroids and then stopping and keeping the gains. the only reason for you to take aas is if you just dont care about your health and your future as an athlete. an athlete of sound mind will wait as long as possible befor using aas and you have at least another 15 yrs before that even becomes possible. especially as an mma fighter.

Well basically, i have found that if you are in between 200 and 230 pounds and have serious skill like Randy Couture you can basically fight anybody in any weight class, look at the Randy Couture Tim Sylvia fight tim sylvia weighed like 300 pounds and had a 12 inch reach advantage and Randy absolutely butchered him and he only weighed like 230 he also fought Brock at this weight and held his own.

that is the primary reason why i want to go up to that kind of weight,

if you think someone at 155 can hang with someone at 205 or higher in an mma match or street fight you are in for a rude awakening, hence they have weight classes, but there are no weight classes on the street are there?