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GetBig10

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well bros...at my gym theres this kid..that i overheard say winny...and i went and asked him...whats up...and balh blah..and eventually he told me hes like dont tell anyone but im thinking of taking winny and tbol...winny at 50mg/ed and tbol at 80mg/ed he says he wants to get hard and stronger... not gaining to much...but what will happen to him taking steriods so early ...i want to print this out and show it to him ahha so give in boys...and im pretty suire he wont care and jsut do it anyways... hopefully kid doesnt get rocked

sorry about bad spelling ....
 
If you go over to Anabolic Fitness a bunch of experts put together the following...I hear they have some of the most knowledgeable brains to ever be assembled at that site....or is it heresy?....:)

"Veteran Consensus Statement on the age of initiation of Anabolic use."


Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


1. PHYSICAL MATURITY. Anabolics can, through either direct or indirect effects, cause premature closure of the epiphyseal plates (“growth plates”) at the end of bone, an irreversible effect that may result in permanently shorter stature than the athlete would otherwise achieve. Therefore, the athlete should have reached full physical stature and maturity of the skeleton before contemplating anabolic use. In most cases, full stature is not reached until the very late teens and, in many cases, development of both long skeletal bones and joint assemblies (hips and shoulders) continues into the early 20's, development of the larynx (“voicebox”) into the mid-20’s.


2. SIGNIFICANT MATURE MUSCULARITY. Anabolics have poor effect, or transitory effect, on athletes in mediocre condition; in addition, their tendency to boost muscle strength ahead of the strength of supporting tendons and ligaments can lead to debilitating injury in athletes without substantial prior training. Therefore, the athlete should have accumulated a significant amount of mature muscle mass and tendon strength through a dedicated program of resistance training prior to beginning anabolic use. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in training efficiency and effects, a minimum of 3 years, perhaps as many as 7, of dedicated weight training is required to achieve this necessary physical foundation, on which anabolics can be used safely and to best effect.


3. THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE. Anabolics are not a substitute for proper technique or applied knowledge of the basics of exercise physiology. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have a very thorough and detailed knowledge of lifting technique, dietary practice, recuperative processes, and hormonal and nonhormonal supplementation, and should if possible prepare for the use of anabolics under the guidance of a trusted mentor who has mastered these issues. In particular, the athlete should have an excellent understanding of the uses, effects, and risk profiles of anabolics, and should be thoroughly conversant with the kinds of ancillary agents that minimize side-effects and speed post-cycle recovery. Recognizing that there is substantial individual variability in the pace at which this knowledge is acquired, at least a year of arduous study and reading is necessary to understand anabolics and post-cycle recovery, and at least 4 years of practice is required to establish the requisite knowledge base of lifting technique, recuperation, and diet.


4. PSYCHOLOGICAL MATURITY. Anabolic steroids can have marked effect on mood and disposition, either during the cycle of active use, or its aftermath. Therefore, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should have the psychological health and maturity that will enable him or her to use anabolics with minimal social, psychological, and legal risk to both him/herself and his/her network of partners and collaborators. In addition, the athlete should be firm enough in purpose and balanced enough in approach to understand not only how and when to initiate use of anabolics, but how and when to curtail or abandon use safely should that need arise.


The use of anabolic steroids is unwise for persons who have not satisfied these prerequisites, though exceptions may be made in cases of very unusual athletic promise. While not a function of mere calendar age per se, it is unarguable that, on average, the likelihood that these conditions will have been met increases as the age of the prospective anabolic user increases.


For the reasons adduced above, the following statement of consensus opinion is made:


Allowing for substantial individual variability, and with the exception of cases of truly outstanding athletic promise, the athlete considering the use of anabolics should be socially and physically mature, psychologically healthy, and should have completed 4 to 7 years of dedicated, mentored training in strength/endurance athletics and study in lifting technique, dietary practices, recuperation skills and supplementation. In most cases, the athlete will have reached the age of 21 before these prerequisites are in place, recognizing that many athletes will not have achieved the necessary experience, physical maturity, and psychic balance until their mid-20's or even later.
 
I know a 16 year old who took juice fukin kid gained 50-60# in like 3 months went from 170# to like 240# over the summer and still had a 6 pack benched like 550# and broke the scholastic bench press record by doing 225# 61 times no bullshit kid is now a navy seal 195# with 19" arms and like 6%bf!!! jogs like 15 miles a day for fun henever had any reprocutions makes you think??????
 
id say if you have been lifting hard and consistantly since 7th or 8th grade and your now a jr or sr in high school with proper research and a little lower dosages you can use it to benefit you and your athletic future.. a lot of college programs secretely want their future athletes to do is before they get into the system of getting tested.. it gives them the edge/advantage
 
Main reason I can think off is that most teens are already a pyschological rollercoaster ride with his test surging so why throw something else in the mix to upset that evenmore. Besides the physical effects Test can screw with your attitude and emotions, which is something a teenager already has plenty of to deal with. Bad idea I think.

Perp
 
ninesecz said:
I know a 16 year old who took juice fukin kid gained 50-60# in like 3 months went from 170# to like 240# over the summer and still had a 6 pack benched like 550# and broke the scholastic bench press record by doing 225# 61 times no bullshit kid is now a navy seal 195# with 19" arms and like 6%bf!!! jogs like 15 miles a day for fun henever had any reprocutions makes you think??????

lol ur makeing me wish i started a little younger
 
GetBig10 said:
well bros...at my gym theres this kid..that i overheard say winny...and i went and asked him...whats up...and balh blah..and eventually he told me hes like dont tell anyone but im thinking of taking winny and tbol...winny at 50mg/ed and tbol at 80mg/ed he says he wants to get hard and stronger... not gaining to much...but what will happen to him taking steriods so early ...i want to print this out and show it to him ahha so give in boys...and im pretty suire he wont care and jsut do it anyways... hopefully kid doesnt get rocked

sorry about bad spelling ....

He poses a serious threat to his liver at age 16. Our livers are not really fully developed until around the ages of 23-25. Plus with that stuff and at his age with all his natural testostosterone combined with the the orals he will more than likely break out like you wont believe with acne everywhere. Girls will love it. Then he will have to take accutane to even further destroy his liver and if that destroys his liver values the doc will stop him and he will have to live with severe acne. then he will more than likely be totally depressed and want to jump in front of a moving semi. Just kidding about the semi truck!
 
ninesecz said:
I know a 16 year old who took juice fukin kid gained 50-60# in like 3 months went from 170# to like 240# over the summer and still had a 6 pack benched like 550# and broke the scholastic bench press record by doing 225# 61 times no bullshit kid is now a navy seal 195# with 19" arms and like 6%bf!!! jogs like 15 miles a day for fun henever had any reprocutions makes you think??????


Let us know how he is doing at age 40 if he makes it!
 
ninesecz said:
I know a 16 year old who took juice fukin kid gained 50-60# in like 3 months went from 170# to like 240# over the summer and still had a 6 pack benched like 550# and broke the scholastic bench press record by doing 225# 61 times no bullshit kid is now a navy seal 195# with 19" arms and like 6%bf!!! jogs like 15 miles a day for fun henever had any reprocutions makes you think??????


I just noticed your cycle listed below. Are you seriously doing 10 weeks of D-bol???
 
CO B-man said:
I just noticed your cycle listed below. Are you seriously doing 10 weeks of D-bol???

Yep, looks like it. Plus a gram of test and almost 400 of tren.
 
well if u gona show him this thred then go for it bro, i started at 18 im 19 now only a few cycles under my belt. if at 16 i new pros wer jucin id av started then. i no ill get bombarded wiv loads of bolox bout im to yong now as well and i shouldnt tell u 2 take aswell. tell him to use deca i used it near the start n i didnt weigh my self but i blew up big tym. just start very low maby jus 1 2ml shot a week of deca, winny is shit for gains n ull be disapointed at u 1st cycle.I was i did 15ml dbol up ta 20 n bak ta 15 should av started wiv deca (i no my spelling is appauling)
 
Kids: listen to nobody because they have it all figured out already until they grow up and realize they still dont know hardly anything and that realization comes clearer and clearer every year! Seems like the older we get the more we realize the less we know! How profound was that!
 
thats right so insted of jus sayin dont y not give advice on safe cycles n try ta shed some light. we gona do woteva we set our minds on so y not help?
 
jimmy04 said:
thats right so insted of jus sayin dont y not give advice on safe cycles n try ta shed some light. we gona do woteva we set our minds on so y not help?
Why ask for help or advice if you don"t listen? If you want a cycle to do then go to google and just type in steroid cycles and I'm sure plenty will be there for you to chose from.
 
damn dude, at 16 you should`nt even think about juiceing. There are a lot of products out there to help u get your desired strenght and muscles. Takeing orals will give u a lot of acne and stretch marks everywhere and i guess u will have some problems with anger management :chomp: .But its your choise, i bet in a couple of years you will regret it. Creatine+Glutamine + tones of protein sakes(optinum is good)+n large + hmb + tribusteron+ your natural testosteron flying around, will give u good strenght and gains. All u have to find is how to combine them and when to use them as long with a good training and food. As a last comment, at your age i would stay clean and on the safe side and i would enjoy my natural gains ;) .

P.S: jimmy04: there is no such thing as safe cycles. What do u understand thru safe? At 16 i bet he will have sides (acne,strech marks) winny at 50mg/ed and tbol at 80mg/ed like he posted.
 
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Ha ha Are you serious? I had buddies in high school that would get hammered EVERy weekend. At 16,17, 18 ext... What do you think that does to your liver?
 
i started at 16, sad to say i was dumb. i ran 5 weeks of deca. bad call. im 22 now and things are going alright. that was the only cycle i ran in my teens becuz i found out how bad it was.

Il never fuck with deca again and never do anything hardcore cuz i want to live.

If u got any comments plz do.

I would take it all back if i could.... But i cant dwell in the past and i didnt let the depression ruin my body. I kept lifting naturaly till i was 21.


If i could i would have stayed natural for ever, your life is worth more than ur looks.
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
i think if you're 16 and you want the gear you should just run a gram of deca ew for about a year with no pct or ai's.....safest way to go

Know he is kiddin!!! Good way to get the guys to hit oin you in the locker room. Should get you a nice pair! LOL!
 
In high school a senior on the football team could deadlift 720lbs - no shit. He was around 5'7" and looked like a bowling ball. We think he was doing abombs and dbol. His back was covered in zits. it was the craziest shit I have even seen in my life. I told myself I'd never do gear because he was the last thing I ever wanted to look like and I was a 6 foot tall 145 pound geek on the track team.

Oh well..I guess the moral of the story is that people in their teens are going to use gear....to each their own
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
i think if you're 16 and you want the gear you should just run a gram of deca ew for about a year with no pct or ai's.....safest way to go

not funny asshole.
 
BrandoCommando said:
id say if you have been lifting hard and consistantly since 7th or 8th grade and your now a jr or sr in high school with proper research and a little lower dosages you can use it to benefit you and your athletic future.. a lot of college programs secretely want their future athletes to do is before they get into the system of getting tested.. it gives them the edge/advantage


thats pretty much my situation. but il be runnin safe shit from here on out
 
KD1 said:
Yep, looks like it. Plus a gram of test and almost 400 of tren.
Why? What is the goal and how close are you to reaching it? Sorry but thats silly if you are doing this simply to be "big". Just my humble opinion. As I get a little older I start thinking of all the angles in the future this type of use (and I have done 3 grams a week for the USA's) and it scares me a bit as I have said before.

Quad
 
jimmy04 said:
well if u gona show him this thred then go for it bro, i started at 18 im 19 now only a few cycles under my belt. if at 16 i new pros wer jucin id av started then. i no ill get bombarded wiv loads of bolox bout im to yong now as well and i shouldnt tell u 2 take aswell. tell him to use deca i used it near the start n i didnt weigh my self but i blew up big tym. just start very low maby jus 1 2ml shot a week of deca, winny is shit for gains n ull be disapointed at u 1st cycle.I was i did 15ml dbol up ta 20 n bak ta 15 should av started wiv deca (i no my spelling is appauling)

It's very unfortunate that you are more focused on bigger muscles than a greater education at your age. I remember being 19 and knowing that I knew everything I would ever need to know. Now that I'm in my 30's I am saddened by the fact that I know just enough to know that I don't know shit. Not flaming you, by any means...like I said, it's easy to recall being 19. Good luck with the things you choose to do.
 
ninesecz said:
I know a 16 year old who took juice fukin kid gained 50-60# in like 3 months went from 170# to like 240# over the summer and still had a 6 pack benched like 550# and broke the scholastic bench press record by doing 225# 61 times no bullshit kid is now a navy seal 195# with 19" arms and like 6%bf!!! jogs like 15 miles a day for fun henever had any reprocutions makes you think??????


I was in the military and "closlely related" with the special operations community. I can tell you that they are all on juice ussually in the form of monthly injections almost like a HRT treatment. It's in the Special Operations standard operating procedures manual for the U.S Army. And only god knows what else they injected us with. That's why I have absolutely no fear of needles becuase I had to get like ten shots every month while in. For some reason or another. I was one crazy, and strong ass motherfucker when in though.
 
well guys i showed it to him... and all he said was okay and took the paper...he said yeah ti was bad for him and stuff ..but he needed strength to become a boxer... he looked pretyt big to me without steriods ...i asked him what else has he done he said
creatine protein,weightgainer

and is aid thats all you should take right now theres no point of steriods he said yeah okay... but i dont thikn hes going to lsiten...god dammit these kids
 
Reubsf said:
It's very unfortunate that you are more focused on bigger muscles than a greater education at your age. I remember being 19 and knowing that I knew everything I would ever need to know. Now that I'm in my 30's I am saddened by the fact that I know just enough to know that I don't know shit. Not flaming you, by any means...like I said, it's easy to recall being 19. Good luck with the things you choose to do.


very true words,,we learn from experience, i thought i knew everthing at that age as well.
 
I'd give anything to have the amount of natty test I had running through my system at 16yrs old............

You can make AMAZING gains at that age, and the orals he's/you're taking now probably equal the levels of natty test you are supressing.................

Shit - 16,................too young to even PEE straight............
 
a creed said:
I'd give anything to have the amount of natty test I had running through my system at 16yrs old............

You can make AMAZING gains at that age, and the orals he's/you're taking now probably equal the levels of natty test you are supressing.................

Shit - 16,................too young to even PEE straight............
a creed it aint me...bcz i have a bunch of threads talking about my own cycles and im 23 yrs old no whree near 16
 
yet u weigh 160 pounds. seems like ur bull shitting all of us and ur the actual 16 year old..... thats just what i see
 
caravan said:
I was in the military and "closlely related" with the special operations community. I can tell you that they are all on juice ussually in the form of monthly injections almost like a HRT treatment. It's in the Special Operations standard operating procedures manual for the U.S Army. And only god knows what else they injected us with. That's why I have absolutely no fear of needles becuase I had to get like ten shots every month while in. For some reason or another. I was one crazy, and strong ass motherfucker when in though.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
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