In a pickle - Advice, Tips, Thoughts Please.

[strentrainin]

I appreciate all of the feedback so far. My Uro sent me home with Axiron and called in a prescription to my pharmacy. I have not started it and as rough and dragging and low of a sex drive as I have I'd rather not jump on TRT at my age. I think I'm going to try to line up the above mentioned recovery cycle (PCT) and run it for about 6 weeks and then go back for blood work and see where i'm at. Unleashed, PC, Hcgenerate, daa, Clomid and Hcg will be expensive, no doubt. I dont know how quickly I will be able to get my hands on Clomid or Hcg. SO that concerns me especially since time is ticking. I have ran clomid briefly and once after my first cycle and it was at a low dose and I did get minor mood swings and sides. I hope that if i do end up getting my hands on some and run it at fairly high doses I don't get sides too bad. I will start placing orders for the available asap and see start digging around for some HCG and clomid. Thanks again for all the input. I'm anxious to get this Testosterone moving in the right direction (naturally). Pm me if you have any other info, advice, etc.

 

[timetogethuge1940]

at least you're doing the smart thing and getting advice from people that know what they are talking about and have your best interest at heart. I have been on a lot of boards, most good but some bad.. and i would have to say that this is by far the best one out there. a lot of very well educated guys that know what they are talking about.. a lot more than just "bro knowledge" they have actually gotten me to think about changing the ways i do things.. and i am as stubborn as it gets. just follow what these guys say and everything will work out !!

 

[Nelson Montana]

The clomid will not make a difference.

I'll put money on that right now.

Either you fucked up some other way or your T was low in the first place. The cycle was shit and you're only 170 anyway. Something is off. It's not the fault of the PCT -- which should have included a shot of HCG, a double dose of UNLEASHED and protein factory POST-CYCLE -- which it did not.

 

[stevesmi]

you are nuts to even consider HRT. run a PCT first. the only difference between you and 99% of juicers out there is you actually ran bloods and got the hard truth.. most other juicers go off for 5 weeks (which isn't even being off to begin with) then jump back on when the esters were still floating in their bodies. or they just stay on year round and think cycling off is for pussies.

take it from me as someone who actually cycles.

also not to beat a dead horse but you should ALWAYS have hcg on hand stored away unmixed.. you should have a box full of ancillaries just in case. so order yourself a bunch of hcg if you want to cycle again. have EVERYTHING and more on hand always. needles both slinpin's and larger, bac water, vials, caber, clomid, etc etc. any of that shit.. you don't have to have supplements on hand as NTBM will ship to you within days. but anything that is harder to get you NEED ON HAND AT ALL TIMES !! if you cannot afford to do that then you shouldn't juice to begin with. very risky

i would stay natty for the rest of the year or more.. build more of a base. and then try it again next year. maybe you should try a short 4-5 week dbol cycle or something.. or epi.. keep things short and make it easier to recover to learn the ABC's again