15 week bulker.......using slin and IGF for 1st time

[ednhoss12]

Week--------Test--------Deca--------D-bol------Tren---------Slin---- -----IGF------------Nolva--------

1 ----------500mg ------400mg -----25mg/day ------------10iu-20iu/ed --------------20mg/day if needed
2 ----------500mg ------400mg -----25mg/day ------------10iu-20iu/ed --------------20mg/day if needed
3 ----------500mg ------400mg -----25mg/day ------------10iu-20iu/ed --------------20mg/day if needed
4 ----------500mg ------400mg -----25mg/day ------------10iu-20iu/ed --------------20mg/day if needed
5 ----------500mg ------400mg -----25mg/day --------------------------40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
6 ----------500mg ------400mg -----25mg/day --------------------------40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
7 ----------500mg ------400mg ---------------------------10iu-20iu/ed -40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
8 ----------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day --10iu-20iu/ed -40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
9 ----------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day --10iu-20iu/ed --------------20mg/day if needed
10 ---------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day --10iu-20iu/ed --------------20mg/day if needed
11 ---------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day ----------------------------20mg/day if needed
12 ---------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day ----------------------------20mg/day if needed
13 ---------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day --10iu-20iu/ed -40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
14 ---------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day --10iu-20iu/ed -40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
15 ---------500mg ------400mg ---------------75mg/day --10iu-20iu/ed -40mcg/ed ---20mg/day if needed
16 ------------------------------------------------- ------10iu-20iu/ed -40mcg/ed ---------------------
17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------40mg/day------
18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------40mg/day------
19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------40mg/day------
20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------40mg/day------


So this is what it looks like so far, would appreciate any comments/feedback to help w/ some fine tuning. The slin is run through the cycle w/ a 4 on 2 off setup, and the IGF w/ a 4 on 4 off setup. My main concern is w/ the use of these two as I'm new to them both.

I feel comfortable w/ the 4 on 2 off w/ the slin, well I'm gonna try it anyways....... mainly because I want to get 3 cycles of it in while I'm on. (OK? or stay off longer?)

The IGF will be run @ 40mcg/ed..........or I'll do my first cycle @20mcg/day and the second @60mcg/day. Was wondering if this was a good idea or just stick to the 40 and 40........anyone have any experience w/ 20mcg/day on their first cycle?

Also, once the slin and IGF are running together @ week 7 should I drop my slin dosage a bit??

I'm most concerned w/ the timing of the 2nd cycle of IGF. Should I start it later so it will run further into pct? I'm kinda leaning toward this idea as I only will be using nolva pct. That is unless i can get my hands on some HCG, but I'm not sure it will be needed.

I'd appreciate any feedback to help me w/ this, it's not set in stone, so I'll take any suggestions. I may run a little more than 2cc's of the deca a week so it'll run out before the test. This will be my first use of Slin and IGF, (I'll start w/ a low dose on the slin and increase each day) so any feedback on the use of these would help a lot. Thanks guys.

 

[instant.muscle]

u'll b a big mofo, but at the end i c 40 mg, 40 mg of what?

 

[Fastlane]

I bet that took alot of time to write out

 

[Dial_tone]

I hope you're very low bodyfat or plan on eating super clean, insulin can make you fat if you don't play it right.

 

[ednhoss12]

u'll b a big mofo, but at the end i c 40 mg, 40 mg of what?

40mg nolva pct

I've read extinsively (sp?) on how to diet around injection times. I won't really have to make many changes as my post workout diet is already quite similar to what is recommended.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

What are your stats bro ? How many cycles have you done ?

M18

 

[ednhoss12]

5'10" 245lbs 37" waist I've done 4 cycles, not including prohormones.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

5'10" 245lbs 37" waist I've done 4 cycles, not including prohormones.

Your a big boy..Please keep us posted on your progress

M18

 

[cbeaks]

I'm curious about the IGF1. What is the general consensus on how it compares to GH?

 

[ednhoss12]

will do.....

anyone have any comments on the slin and IGF use? dosaging? timing? My chart is more of a rough draft, I'm open to suggestions........

 

[instant.muscle]

how old r u, just curious.

 

[ednhoss12]

how old r u, just curious.

26

 

[ednhoss12]

anyone w/ any experience on slin or IGF?? could use some help or suggestions on how I have it set up......thankx guys

 

[Makavelli]

anyone w/ any experience on slin or IGF?? could use some help or suggestions on how I have it set up......thankx guys

Your cycle looks similar to my show cycle. I'm going to be running many of the same compounds but w/cutters the last half. Anyway as for the IGF and slin. You need to use about half the slin as you normally would when you run IGF w/it. So if you work your way up to 10 IU per shot, w/IGF you'll use 4 IU to be safe. Don't use the slin w/IGF too close to when you go to sleep. It's too unpredictable. Hope that helps.

 

[ednhoss12]

thanks bro, that's good to know......I'll be sure to do that.

What do you think of the timing of my 2nd IGF cycle starting @ week 13? Should I wait til' later to run it more along w/ PCT? I hear it can help retain gains and keep your strength from dropping so quickly. But it also works well w/ the androgens during the cycle, so I was wondering.....which would serve a better purpose?

 

[Makavelli]

thanks bro, that's good to know......I'll be sure to do that.

What do you think of the timing of my 2nd IGF cycle starting @ week 13? Should I wait til' later to run it more along w/ PCT? I hear it can help retain gains and keep your strength from dropping so quickly. But it also works well w/ the androgens during the cycle, so I was wondering.....which would serve a better purpose?

Since you're not doing a show, I would run it into PCT. It will help with recovery and it can solidify your gains.

 

[ednhoss12]

so start it w/ which week?

 

[Makavelli]

so start it w/ which week?

Week 15 or 16.

 

[ednhoss12]

thanks bro, think I'll do just that.....

 

[ednhoss12]

Was wondering if a 4 week GH cycle would do better than the IGF? I'd throw in a 120iu kit of fitropin weeks 5-8 instead of the IGF and stick w/ the IGF for pct as already set up. Since a 4 week cycle of Fitropin is about the same in price as the IGF, I thought I'd bounce this thought off you guys and see what you all thought. Would 4 weeks really do much here or am I better off sticking w/ the IGF?

 

[Dial_tone]

GH for anything less than 3-4 months would be a near total waist. Under 4 months just do igf-1 instead.

 

[cbeaks]

GH for anything less than 3-4 months would be a near total waist. Under 4 months just do igf-1 instead.

will you see results from IGF much quicker? What is the typical cycle length? Does it need to be cycled or can it be taken continuously like GH?

 

[ednhoss12]

GH for anything less than 3-4 months would be a near total waist. Under 4 months just do igf-1 instead.

thanks bro....I'll keep you guys posted.

 

[cbeaks]

will you see results from IGF much quicker? What is the typical cycle length? Does it need to be cycled or can it be taken continuously like GH?

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