1000m's of EQ is the WORST thing I have ever done.

[majutsu]

Anxiety is felt to be related to GABA-ergic transmission in the brain. For some time, it has been known that some steroids, particularly boldenone (eq) and stanazolol (winny), affect GABA receptors in the brain. GABA is considered predominantly inhibitory, i.e. a "chiller". EQ can strip the brain of its natural chillers, GABA, creating waves of panic as you experience and describe so eloquently. Some people are born without sufficient GABA-ergic transmission, predisposing them to panic attacks such as you experienced, but in the absence of any externally administered drug. If you external stress overrides your GABA-ergic transmission, you will panic. So some only develop panic after a traumatic event. You probably had sufficient GABA-ergic transmssion for everyday life, but you were closer to that critical line than you thought, so when EQ stripped your GABA, you were pushed over that edge into panic. Some people are very far from that edge, so they can take a gram or two of EQ, strip their receptors, and still have no problems. Treatment options include benzos (which directly enhance GABA-ergic transmission, but have terrible tolerance and addiction potential and are NOT recommended), antidepressants (which by influencing serotonin and norepinephrine can enhance GABA-ergic transmission or simply screen more external stress through their mechanisms), and lastly DON"T DO EQ. This last one is simplest and best of course. Try EQ much later and 400ew, with confidence and a calm mind. Good luck.

 

[Slyder190]

I front-loaded EQ the only time I ever used it, 1000mg the first week and 800mg the second week , then 600mg for the remainder. I got Gyno symptoms for the first time ever, off any AAS that way.

 

[tiger88]

I was really sick on the fast acting stuff.

thanks for the info.....id really like to try fast acting EQ....shit..fit pefectly in my short cycle id like to do..

also what lab did u use?
c****** ?

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

3 weeks ago, I started EQ at 600mg/week... stacked with 600mg/week of Test. I have a HUGE predisposition for anxiety. I've been on Paxil for 2 years for "anxiety induced depression". Paxil has undoubtedly saved my life... I'd have eventually killed myself my anxiety was getting so bad. I knew about EQ's tendancy to bring about anxiety at high does... thought I'd just run it at 600 and see what materializes.

So far, I feel fine.

 

[Judo Tom]

This has happed to several other people in the past. I was a big problem a couple years ago when frontloading was the craze and guys were loading 1200mg of eq. TheIronGame over in England (if you want to search his posts) was the first one to post what you did there. He was in the ER he so freaked out.
It's the sudden increase in Red Blood Cells from what we figured out back then, so most people stopped frontloading it. I can use 1000mg with no problem but I have been cycling 20 years. I don't think high doses of eq is a good idea for those who haven't used it several times at lower doses and moved up.

Ulter what do you think of ramping up the eq dosage then so that your rbc count gradually raises?

 

[Mavy]

Anxiety is felt to be related to GABA-ergic transmission in the brain. For some time, it has been known that some steroids, particularly boldenone (eq) and stanazolol (winny), affect GABA receptors in the brain. GABA is considered predominantly inhibitory, i.e. a "chiller". EQ can strip the brain of its natural chillers, GABA, creating waves of panic as you experience and describe so eloquently. Some people are born without sufficient GABA-ergic transmission, predisposing them to panic attacks such as you experienced, but in the absence of any externally administered drug. If you external stress overrides your GABA-ergic transmission, you will panic. So some only develop panic after a traumatic event. You probably had sufficient GABA-ergic transmssion for everyday life, but you were closer to that critical line than you thought, so when EQ stripped your GABA, you were pushed over that edge into panic. Some people are very far from that edge, so they can take a gram or two of EQ, strip their receptors, and still have no problems. Treatment options include benzos (which directly enhance GABA-ergic transmission, but have terrible tolerance and addiction potential and are NOT recommended), antidepressants (which by influencing serotonin and norepinephrine can enhance GABA-ergic transmission or simply screen more external stress through their mechanisms), and lastly DON"T DO EQ. This last one is simplest and best of course. Try EQ much later and 400ew, with confidence and a calm mind. Good luck.

K to majutsu, this is the first time I have heard of any type of explanantion for this EQ anxiety, except for the RBC thing. Interesting. I am still puzzled why boldenone affects GABA receptors in the brain and no other roid does?

 

[topcat51]

You should always exceed eq with your test ! More like 1000mg of test and 600 mg of eq weekly split into eod injections .

 

[VictorBR]

Okay, here is my situation.

I have been on this for 8 weeks:

1000mgs of EQ
125mgs of test (for libido purposes)

This is by far the worst cycle cycle I have ever done side-effect wise. For those of you who think EQ is gentle, think again.

I am now suffereing from panic attacks, anxiety that is off the charts, and a racing heart.

I've decided cut out the eq, and am taking 30 mg of var for 5 weeks starting now while the eq clears.

This was my first time using eq, and it was very stupid of me too think I could run 1000mgs. My logic was that i've done 1000mg of test only, and 1200mg of test only, and as I understand, eq is gentler, so I figured that I wouldn't have a problem with it. Boy was I ever wrong.

So to anyone considering something like this, please be careful, and don't take 1000mg of EQ (or any steroid for that matter) your first time around.

>>> I really don't understand some people , you have NEVER tried the DRUG , and the first time you try it , you go for 1000 mg , a dose that is a LOT more than the usual ?

Geeezzz...

Victor

 

[Ulter]

Ulter what do you think of ramping up the eq dosage then so that your rbc count gradually raises?

It would have to be a slow ramp and then it may not work anyways. Eq tapers up by itself anyway and that doesn't seem to help. Once the eq reaches a level that's too high for your tolerance it just sets you off. The GABA explanation up there may be the reason for the anxiety but the physical aspect which is the increase in Red Blood Cells is what causes the shortness of breath, especially lying down, and the feeling of cactus all over your body when you get too warm, dizziness, etc. Feeling like you can't breath while your anxiety levels rise is no fun. So I don't recommend high doses of EQ.

 

[VictorBR]

It would have to be a slow ramp and then it may not work anyways. Eq tapers up by itself anyway and that doesn't seem to help. Once the eq reaches a level that's too high for your tolerance it just sets you off. The GABA explanation up there may be the reason for the anxiety but the physical aspect which is the increase in Red Blood Cells is what causes the shortness of breath, especially lying down, and the feeling of cactus all over your body when you get too warm, dizziness, etc. Feeling like you can't breath while your anxiety levels rise is no fun. So I don't recommend high doses of EQ.

>>> that is why I am keeping mine at 450 mg , I have used 300-350 mg the first time with ZERO side effects . So 450 mg should be pretty safe .


Victor