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LiftingDukkha
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Mendellson did 750 raw.
Throw2Far, you better not ever insult me again.
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1000 lb bench... possible?
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needtogetaas
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ya that big basterd gene rychlak droped 1015 pounds on himself at this years mister olympia
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no he was trying to beet his old record of 1005 by 10lbs.he lost some wate and his bench shirt wasent fitting right on his left side his week side.because of the imbalins he droped the bare to the left and on his liver.he went to the hospital for treetment on his liver but he says he is ok.blut wump said:
Of all the arguments in the world, this seems to be the most controversial haha. I can't even be sure what side I'm on. Here's a few points to some of the comments that have been made.
First of all, the sport reference. Yes, equipment in other sports has evolved. There is no denying that. But there are two big differences in those sports versus powerlifting. First of all, in sports like football and baseball, it is not so much about the individual's physical feat, but the skill applied within the game. Therefore everyone is on the same playing field.
The difference in powerlifting is that the essence of the sport is the strength of the individual. While it is impressive to see the power of Barry Bonds hitting a homerun, it is far from the same level or importance to the game. The strength of the body IS what powerlifting is. To compromise that by using equipment is just flat out decieving.
Secondly, another factor against shirts is the degree to which they help. Ive heard people say Gene benches anywhere from under 600 to 660 raw. That is impressive, but we're talking about a near 400lb difference in lifts. That is like a 60-70% boost instantianously. That is like shorting the baseball fences from 400+feet to 280. Think about that. That is huge, not something to take lightly. Is it still impressive lift? Oh yeah. It proves that he has some serious tricep and lockout strength, not to mention simply being able to handle 1000_ lbs in his hands. However, in the real world, a measure of strength and force is what YOU yourself can do, not what you a piece of equipment can do. Fact is, completely naked, Scott mendleson is a stronger bench presser than Gene. That is a fact.
So to all those who scream about just competing in shirted events if you don't agree, just stop and think what it is doing to the integrity of the sport. You would all agree that it needs more mainstream appreciation and attention. Well, pulling the wool over people's eyes is not the way to do that. The average joe hears 1000 pound bench and it all of a sudden makes Mendy's 713 bench look weak in comparison. Remember we are not ignorant to these facts but the general public is.
So I ask to those shirted supporters, is that really what you want? When is it gonna end? The gap between shirted and non-shirted is only going to get bigger. At what point do you draw the line and forget that the nature of powerlifting is human flesh versus weights?
First of all, the sport reference. Yes, equipment in other sports has evolved. There is no denying that. But there are two big differences in those sports versus powerlifting. First of all, in sports like football and baseball, it is not so much about the individual's physical feat, but the skill applied within the game. Therefore everyone is on the same playing field.
The difference in powerlifting is that the essence of the sport is the strength of the individual. While it is impressive to see the power of Barry Bonds hitting a homerun, it is far from the same level or importance to the game. The strength of the body IS what powerlifting is. To compromise that by using equipment is just flat out decieving.
Secondly, another factor against shirts is the degree to which they help. Ive heard people say Gene benches anywhere from under 600 to 660 raw. That is impressive, but we're talking about a near 400lb difference in lifts. That is like a 60-70% boost instantianously. That is like shorting the baseball fences from 400+feet to 280. Think about that. That is huge, not something to take lightly. Is it still impressive lift? Oh yeah. It proves that he has some serious tricep and lockout strength, not to mention simply being able to handle 1000_ lbs in his hands. However, in the real world, a measure of strength and force is what YOU yourself can do, not what you a piece of equipment can do. Fact is, completely naked, Scott mendleson is a stronger bench presser than Gene. That is a fact.
So to all those who scream about just competing in shirted events if you don't agree, just stop and think what it is doing to the integrity of the sport. You would all agree that it needs more mainstream appreciation and attention. Well, pulling the wool over people's eyes is not the way to do that. The average joe hears 1000 pound bench and it all of a sudden makes Mendy's 713 bench look weak in comparison. Remember we are not ignorant to these facts but the general public is.
So I ask to those shirted supporters, is that really what you want? When is it gonna end? The gap between shirted and non-shirted is only going to get bigger. At what point do you draw the line and forget that the nature of powerlifting is human flesh versus weights?
blut wump
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Sports reference: I see no difference between bench shirts and wearing cleats, spikes, Nike super shoes, aerodynamic suits, power bicycles etc. We clearly have a different perspective on what the lift is about.
Gene works to improve his shirted bench. His raw bench is nothing more than idle curiosity. If he were to concentrate on working his raw then maybe it'd go up but who cares? He's the shirted bench record-holder.
The general public has no knowledge of Gene's 1005 lift and neither do the vast majority of lifters. Those that know of it and care in the slightest know that he did it with a shirt. As w2bb has pointed out several times, shirted benchers don't compare their lifts with raw lifters.
Gene works to improve his shirted bench. His raw bench is nothing more than idle curiosity. If he were to concentrate on working his raw then maybe it'd go up but who cares? He's the shirted bench record-holder.
The general public has no knowledge of Gene's 1005 lift and neither do the vast majority of lifters. Those that know of it and care in the slightest know that he did it with a shirt. As w2bb has pointed out several times, shirted benchers don't compare their lifts with raw lifters.
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