10 Weeks on DC's with 17 pound gain!

[poopmonkey]

I agree, asking for more info isn't being critical, like I said, it's just that the people who are offering up information about the diet are passing out false info.

Trenfan2 - I think changing the workout like you suggested would probably work out better for you. I realize this makes me sound like a hypocrite to advise straying from the parameters, but adding rest days is never a bad idea in my opinion. I personally am getting the best results of my life right now, and I'm working out every 3rd day. (Day 1: Chest/Tri/Shoulder, Day 2: Back/Bi/Abs, Day 3: Quads, Hams, Calfs) But my recovery abilities are pretty crappy, so to each their own.

 

[trenfan2]

poopmonkey, so if you did your day 1 workout on Monday and your day 2 and 3 workouts and Tuesday and Wednesday, would you pickup again with your day1 on Friday, etc?

 

[poopmonkey]

No, my day one is Monday, then I'm out of the gym until Thursday for my Day 2, then my day 3 would be Sunday. Again, that's just me, people with better recovery abilities would probably want to take advantage of that and get in the gym more often. I used to work out 3X a week but I kept getting sick, month after month after month. It took a long time for me to realize that I was probably overtraining, and since I've bumped my training down to 3 times every 9 days, things have been going well.

 

[Debaser]

PoopMonkey- I am asking for an overall history, much knowledge can be gain by telling the whole story and examining it. Much like a scientist we should lokk at why it works, and then learn to apply that knowledge. 5x5 and other methods work (so does DC) but understanding why might help trainers and trainees modify their training for the better.

17lbs is a lot of weight and if it packed onto a person with good training experience with little fat gain then we should examine and learn. But I advocate knowing the whole story. IF a beginner comes to me and says I put on 40lbs on my squat this month my method is the best, I would be aprrehensive at best because I know later on down the road adding 40lbs to a 500lb squat is gonna be much harder.

Just give more info

I would like to hear more info too, but 17 lbs in 10 weeks is damn good whether you're a beginner or not.

DC works for the same reason that HST works, it capitalizes on the most important factors for hypertrophy: increased frequency and progressive loading. DC reached this theories through personal experience whereas HST was created based on muscle growth research in the lab. The fact that both of them have been proven to work so well even though they arrived to their conclusions by opposite means show that, IMO, this is the "right way" to train for optimum hypertrophy.

 

[collegiateLifter]

I myself did gain a bit of fat on DC's diet, but I've made an adjustment. If you are getting fat then you need to make a change in the macros at your meals.

The fact that both of them have been proven to work so well even though they arrived to their conclusions by opposite means show that, IMO, this is the "right way" to train for optimum hypertrophy.

the opinions are still largely devided with regard to HST training.