1-test questions

[Synpax]

I'm only doing 400mg a day. I pretty much know all I need to know for this experiment.

I've been eaking every advantage I can from putting things in my mouth:
- 330g of protien/110g of carbs/35g of fat a day from tuna (3 cans), chicken (2 big breasts, no skin), whole wheat bread (6 slices for the 3 tuna sandwhiches), 2/3 cups of spinach, and apple, and 3 Pro COmplex shakes (egg and whey), along with a teaspon of olive oil with the sanwhiches.
- 12-15g of creatine (wake, 1 hr before workout, after workout).
- L-glutamine (15g a day with each shake - wake, after workout, before bed).

Only other things I've been thinking about are flax seed oil and glucosamine. I am in the gym for 6 hours every 4 day period and also run 25 or so miles a week when I wake up at varying paces (I have coaches to direct that).

Prohormones seem like the next logical step, at least to give a try.

 

[JuiceLeeNinja]

Sadly you'll see this large misconception. 1-test iS NOT a prohormone it is a stand alone anabolic steroid (Wether you want to admit it or not). 1-test DOES NOT convert to test but is a seperate hormone hence, NOT A PRO-HORMONE

Most advice you'll recieve is from those who have never tried it. I have, my advice: It really depends. You'll see strength gains but here is the weird thing about 1-test..it seems to stop working after about 4 weeks (nobody really knows why).

All in all its probably not worth the cash to waste on 1-test when you can just research for a couple months and find a way to get more effective gear but in the end its all up to you.

btw..go transdermal

Oral 1-test sucks PERIOD..if your gonna go oral go 1-AD.

 

[geoffgarst]

It is not worth the money. It is a waste.

 

[Magnússon]

Haha... um steroids are not an early death sentence there holmes.

Just think about it Big Guy


that post had me laughing my ass off

 

[BigAndy69]

That stuff should be banned. They advertise it to Teens. (It's in the same category as AS in Canada.)

It is a steroid.

It is not very effective (compared to illegal AAS) and it has a host of harsh side effects. (especially in terms of the prostate)

Injected it may be worth it (I don't think so) but it's mostly taken orally which makes it useless. You are required to take a large amount (400mg a day!) to see results. A lot of guys take more than this and that's when the side effects creep in.

It's also very expensive.

The only possible benefit: LEGAL in the US. If you are in Canada, there is no point to it.

 

[Synpax]

"The only possible benefit: LEGAL in the US."

you got it. That's why I'm giving it a try.

re: me calling it a steriod or a prohormone, I really can't win either way. If it's a steriod than why did the mods move it off the steriod board? I do agree - I think it is a steriod, but ... but... here we are, in the supplements board.

Transdermal? You mean needles? Doesn't that get expensive?

It's not that expsnve. I found 70 100mg caps for $40. So about $200 for 12+ weeks.

 

[javaguru]

Transdermal is the way to go with 1-test. Injections are too painful and the orals, even the 1-test undecanoates dissolved in oil, are poor delivery vehicles. Go to bodybuilding.com and do a search using 'transdermal' and '1-test'. They have plenty of recipes for cheap and effective transdermals as well as many first hand accounts of effectiveness and dosing.

 

[Synpax]

Hmm. Another trainer I know who has advised me on this says that there is no science showing that transdermal 1-test works.

Also - is transdermal any more expensive than caps?

 

[Lumberg]

Synpax---

ttransdermal works. I am sitting on 2 bottles of Super One+ that just blew my mind with how effective they were. Literally. I had to stop taking it because i had anxiety and gained too much weight!

I think for cost effectiveness you are going to want to go for transdermal 1-test with 4-ad. The 4-ad is synergistic, gives you more motivation/sex drive/aggression as well as some estrogen.

I would stay away from oral 1-test. Orally, 1-AD is the way to go.

I understand your predicament. Go for it.

 

[javaguru]

Hmm. Another trainer I know who has advised me on this says that there is no science showing that transdermal 1-test works.

Also - is transdermal any more expensive than caps?

There is no evidence 1-test works in humans at all. The only studies I've seen are the rat levator-ani assays done to determine its anabolic/androgenic ratio. My guess is that transdermals will be cheaper. You can buy straight 1-test and 4-ad powder pretty cheap on the net.