1-test questions

[Synpax]

I've been studying and talking to folks about using 1-test. I'm unsure about the best way to take it (leaning towards the esther caps) and the best price. This stuff is much more expensive than the non-AS stuff I've been using (creatine, l-glutamine).

 

[the urge]

Syn, first of all welcome to the board, you may want to introduce yourself. Man...whew, where to start. First of all i think you making the mistake that alot of people new to "muscular enhancement"( for lack of a better term) have done. I now think of it as a right of passage " the prohormone phase". PROHORMONES SUCK!!! They can give you alot of the side that juice can, without the benifits. They're expensive & basicly usless. I think people get where THEY WANT TO BELIEVE that they will " at least do a little something". But man they will shut down your HTPA , and if you do get anything off of them your not going to hold on to it. PLEASE don't waiste your time and money. THIS IS NOT TO SAY -JUST START USING JUICE!!!!!!! We don't know what your workout background , size, body composition is..so give us some info. Stay on some of the boards and read all you can ( you'll find hours pass by before you know it, night after night , and you'll learn alot). i've heard alot of people say "man I'm glad I waited and learned, before jumping right in, i would have done some stupid things- and almost did" there's alot of people on this board who will help you out, and tell you how to reach your goals-take some time and learn & forget about prohormones all together

 

[rush]

I totally agree with the above statements... DONT DO IT... I am
so happy that this shit is getting banned... I took that biotest
mag 10 shit and sure I gained some pounds but I also gained an
enlarged prostate and suffered from hair loss... one of my biggest
regrets was taking that crap... 1 test is an unknown entity, there
is no one who really knows the effects of this stuff....

 

[bds20002002]

Dont do it. I did 1 test for 12 weeks. it was not worth it. Gear is not worth it either. Think about this big guy. There is someone who is allways willing to do more gear than u. I ran into this guy in the supermarket yesterday. He had tremendous arms. and disgusting acne... All over his arms, back, face. it was terrible. they were the big puss filled ones. oozing. it was gross.

And he wasnt even that huge. i mean freakish huge. he was muscular, ill admit that, but he was gross.

and think about where u want to be later in life. all these juice freaks will be dead early. i dont wish that on them. its just an unfortunate truth. Introduce/abuse roids. you will not be healthy for very long.
Get to your natural potential first. so that means atleast 5 solid years of eating clean, resting and working out properly. Than after you have invested that much of yourself. decide if you want to ruin the rest of your life.

Good luck.

 

[Spidey]

The above posts are pretty much all you are going to get on this board. If you want information on 1-test, go to the supplement board (where this post will likely be moved anyway).

 

[pharmguy]

1-test = better than no test, but not much

 

[Synpax]

Ok. Honestly I don't have 5 years and am not at my natural potential. I have 7 months, but understand that this will make me grow faster as I have a window to meet a certain goal that will be closed in a few months.

Losing my hair and really bad acne and mucus burn and lack of sexual desire? I don't care. Is it legal and will it make me stronger? That's all that matters to me.

If this belongs on sup board, I'm sorry. I'm new here. Please move it to where it belongs assuming I can read it without being platinum.

BTW- I found a source that had good prices. 70 100mg for $40.

Thanks.

 

[Singleton]

1-test. I used Mike's 1-test in Avant gel.

I got some good vascularity and good pumps.

I had to quit taking it after 2 weeks. I had really bad side effects, mostly related to my prostate. (I was pissing my pants. This may or may not happen to you).

Didn't lose any hair, but I take a lot of supps for that.

Made my chest and facial hair grow faster. 1 day of not shaving looked like 1 week!

Made my bones hurt.

Made me very tired. made me feel like a total pussy and completely killed my natural aggression.

My balls atrophied, but they came back right away. Good balls

One guy (JBRIII ?) on the supplements board is permanently shut down from 1-test. He's now on HRT. I am thankful that this did not happen to me.

Read up on var, primo, and test (beware of fakes, esp. fake primo!). Medical grade stuff. Tried and true. Side effects are known and documented.

I still have a lot of 1-test leftover, however...

 

[liftsiron]

I got good results from ergo 1AD and Sci Fit Andropoise stacked at 3to 400mg each perday. I got good results with 1 test ether at 500mg per day with no unwanted sides except a reduction in liebdo. I think that a lot of the bros who denounce pro hormones, have never tried them. They are not by any means as effective as real gear though, and I think that the side effects are highly over stated.

 

[Lift Chief]

Dont do it. I did 1 test for 12 weeks. it was not worth it. Gear is not worth it either. Think about this big guy. There is someone who is allways willing to do more gear than u. I ran into this guy in the supermarket yesterday. He had tremendous arms. and disgusting acne... All over his arms, back, face. it was terrible. they were the big puss filled ones. oozing. it was gross.

And he wasnt even that huge. i mean freakish huge. he was muscular, ill admit that, but he was gross.

and think about where u want to be later in life. all these juice freaks will be dead early. i dont wish that on them. its just an unfortunate truth. Introduce/abuse roids. you will not be healthy for very long.
Get to your natural potential first. so that means atleast 5 solid years of eating clean, resting and working out properly. Than after you have invested that much of yourself. decide if you want to ruin the rest of your life.

Good luck.

Haha... um steroids are not an early death sentence there holmes.

 

[Synpax]

I'm only doing 400mg a day. I pretty much know all I need to know for this experiment.

I've been eaking every advantage I can from putting things in my mouth:
- 330g of protien/110g of carbs/35g of fat a day from tuna (3 cans), chicken (2 big breasts, no skin), whole wheat bread (6 slices for the 3 tuna sandwhiches), 2/3 cups of spinach, and apple, and 3 Pro COmplex shakes (egg and whey), along with a teaspon of olive oil with the sanwhiches.
- 12-15g of creatine (wake, 1 hr before workout, after workout).
- L-glutamine (15g a day with each shake - wake, after workout, before bed).

Only other things I've been thinking about are flax seed oil and glucosamine. I am in the gym for 6 hours every 4 day period and also run 25 or so miles a week when I wake up at varying paces (I have coaches to direct that).

Prohormones seem like the next logical step, at least to give a try.

 

[JuiceLeeNinja]

Sadly you'll see this large misconception. 1-test iS NOT a prohormone it is a stand alone anabolic steroid (Wether you want to admit it or not). 1-test DOES NOT convert to test but is a seperate hormone hence, NOT A PRO-HORMONE

Most advice you'll recieve is from those who have never tried it. I have, my advice: It really depends. You'll see strength gains but here is the weird thing about 1-test..it seems to stop working after about 4 weeks (nobody really knows why).

All in all its probably not worth the cash to waste on 1-test when you can just research for a couple months and find a way to get more effective gear but in the end its all up to you.

btw..go transdermal

Oral 1-test sucks PERIOD..if your gonna go oral go 1-AD.

 

[geoffgarst]

It is not worth the money. It is a waste.

 

[Magnússon]

Haha... um steroids are not an early death sentence there holmes.

Just think about it Big Guy


that post had me laughing my ass off

 

[BigAndy69]

That stuff should be banned. They advertise it to Teens. (It's in the same category as AS in Canada.)

It is a steroid.

It is not very effective (compared to illegal AAS) and it has a host of harsh side effects. (especially in terms of the prostate)

Injected it may be worth it (I don't think so) but it's mostly taken orally which makes it useless. You are required to take a large amount (400mg a day!) to see results. A lot of guys take more than this and that's when the side effects creep in.

It's also very expensive.

The only possible benefit: LEGAL in the US. If you are in Canada, there is no point to it.

 

[Synpax]

"The only possible benefit: LEGAL in the US."

you got it. That's why I'm giving it a try.

re: me calling it a steriod or a prohormone, I really can't win either way. If it's a steriod than why did the mods move it off the steriod board? I do agree - I think it is a steriod, but ... but... here we are, in the supplements board.

Transdermal? You mean needles? Doesn't that get expensive?

It's not that expsnve. I found 70 100mg caps for $40. So about $200 for 12+ weeks.

 

[javaguru]

Transdermal is the way to go with 1-test. Injections are too painful and the orals, even the 1-test undecanoates dissolved in oil, are poor delivery vehicles. Go to bodybuilding.com and do a search using 'transdermal' and '1-test'. They have plenty of recipes for cheap and effective transdermals as well as many first hand accounts of effectiveness and dosing.

 

[Synpax]

Hmm. Another trainer I know who has advised me on this says that there is no science showing that transdermal 1-test works.

Also - is transdermal any more expensive than caps?

 

[Lumberg]

Synpax---

ttransdermal works. I am sitting on 2 bottles of Super One+ that just blew my mind with how effective they were. Literally. I had to stop taking it because i had anxiety and gained too much weight!

I think for cost effectiveness you are going to want to go for transdermal 1-test with 4-ad. The 4-ad is synergistic, gives you more motivation/sex drive/aggression as well as some estrogen.

I would stay away from oral 1-test. Orally, 1-AD is the way to go.

I understand your predicament. Go for it.

 

[javaguru]

Hmm. Another trainer I know who has advised me on this says that there is no science showing that transdermal 1-test works.

Also - is transdermal any more expensive than caps?

There is no evidence 1-test works in humans at all. The only studies I've seen are the rat levator-ani assays done to determine its anabolic/androgenic ratio. My guess is that transdermals will be cheaper. You can buy straight 1-test and 4-ad powder pretty cheap on the net.