1-AD throughts? ? ?

[bunkka]

Why do juicers insist on completely ignoring the fact that some people just want to be able to call themselves natural or steroid-free, whatever.

DT.. don't know if this was a direct reply to my reply. I appreciate yours posts and input (just helped me out w/ something in a previous post).

I'm just stating my opinions on it purely based on a cost/benefit... pros/cons... model.

I asked several times "Why would you?". If the reason is that you want to stay clear of illegal substances, then there is a valid answer... as is the whole "Natural" thing.

This gets into the whole philisophyical debates thing - my opinion being that God gave us wisdom as well as intelligence; the ability to take data, knowledge and apply it how we see fit, within our OWN moral codes, etc.... This is the beginnings of what should be a whole new thread.

 

[chakarov]

1-AD is garbage. Gains are from the placebo effect. When I see a 17-AA Pro Hormone, then I 'may' think differently.

Pro Hormones. When are the dreamers ever going to learn!

Syntrax's T-3. It worked, was real and was banned in just months. If Pro Hormones REALLY worked anything even close to real oral AS, then the FDA would ban them to just like they did Syntrax's original T3...

Use your common sense folks. Do you really think that the FDA hasn't already tested EVERY SINGLE Pro Hormone out there to see if's it's really like AS or even remotely close? If The FDA found out a Pro Hormone was close to an AS then it would be banned in a matter of a few weeks.

 

[LethalGunz34]

I saw pretty good results actually and i am gonna finish the bottle and a half that i have left since i already bought it... it will not give you any results even close to gear though... that's common sense... again if someone makes something incredibly powerful it usually gets pulled off the market very quickly by the fda.


Rich

I guess Avantlabs is a perfect example of that(ONE,ONE+).

 

[MrMakaveli]

1-AD is garbage. Gains are from the placebo effect. When I see a 17-AA Pro Hormone, then I 'may' think differently.

Pro Hormones. When are the dreamers ever going to learn!

Syntrax's T-3. It worked, was real and was banned in just months. If Pro Hormones REALLY worked anything even close to real oral AS, then the FDA would ban them to just like they did Syntrax's original T3...

Use your common sense folks. Do you really think that the FDA hasn't already tested EVERY SINGLE Pro Hormone out there to see if's it's really like AS or even remotely close? If The FDA found out a Pro Hormone was close to an AS then it would be banned in a matter of a few weeks.

There is a bill before congress set to do just that.

 

[chakarov]

Pro Hormones give you many of the negative sides of real AS, but without any positive benefits whatsoever. That's another point I forgot to make, but I thought everyone else knew these things

 

[MrMakaveli]

http://www.delano.com/Articles/1-Testosterone.html

Real Steroid, Real benifits, Real sides

All these people saying "half the benifits of real gear" 1-testosterone is A REAL STEROID, it is not a test prohormone but rather a hormone itself....

I dont support prohormones necessarily but people need to get their facts straight...

 

[Lumberg]

1-AD is garbage. Gains are from the placebo effect.

It stinks in here......must be because you're FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!



1-AD does work. Do a search next time before you say something that is going to make you look stupid.

 

[NapoleanComplex]

Gains from 1-AD are acceptable, but not for the price. I priced out a cycle for 7 wks (taper up...900mg/day...taper down) and combined 6 OXO for recovery....came out to $260. With this cycle, I was able to gain 15lbs, keeping 12lbs after recovery. Strict diet, and good training. Strength fades slightly after cycle, but most of the lean mass is retianed. Never really experienced any sides other than burning piss in the morning, if I was dehydrated. However, my friend who ran the same cycle w/out running the 6-OXO at the end of the cycle, actually saw signs of gyno post cycle. Not bad signs, but there was definitely a little bit of puffiness under the nipples.

Just thought I would share...by they way, the only time I will ever use 1AD is for cutting (lower dosage...may 500-600 mg/day)...to spare muscle tissue as I go low cal. I would rather use Clen, but I didn't respond well to it the first and second time I tried it.

Just my experience...

 

[Watson]

OK, so you think a fina cycle will put 90 pounds on you?

My first cycle I ever did was dianabol, and i gained 12 pounds and thought it was unbelievable. You gain 10 pounds and think its not that big of a deal, and expect to gain 30?

Really guys, steroids work but they don't work THAT well

Some people just don't read before they post.

 

[liftsiron]

I agree that 1-AD will help with strength at 300 plus mgs a day, but I wholeheartly agre with what Zyg says, you get a whole hell of alot more from plain old test at a fraction of the cost. Hell you can take d-bol much cheaper and I can tell you 45mgs of d-bol will give you 3 to 4 times the results of 900mgs of 1-AD.