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[pa1ad]

Re: 1-ad

No negative affects here. My wood is strong as ever and andro won't shrink your balls...prolonged steroid use will but not andro

Enough of one of the more potent prohormones taken for long enough will shrink your balls.

If you are getting an anabolic/androgenic effect from a prohormone then you are gonna have suppression of testosterone associated with it. Thats just reality. If you stay on long enough, your testicles will start to atrophy.

 

[Par Deus]

Re: Re: 1-ad

If you are getting an anabolic/androgenic effect from a prohormone then you are gonna have suppression of testosterone associated with it. Thats just reality. If you stay on long enough, your testicles will start to atrophy.

pa1ad,

I don't know who you are, but you don't know what you are talking about. Over at T-Mag, they stated that Mag-10 will give the good effects of real steroids but without the bad effects.

ParDeus
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[Benzi]

pitstone, what was your weightin the beginning, what is it now? Same with bf? I think ove the last 2 weeks i have gained maybe 2 lbs of muscle and 2-4 lbs of fat. The fat gain isn't directly related to the 1-ad, it is becaseu i have been eating lie crazy trying to cash in on some quality weight gain

 

[pitstone]

pitstone, what was your weightin the beginning, what is it now? Same with bf? I think ove the last 2 weeks i have gained maybe 2 lbs of muscle and 2-4 lbs of fat. The fat gain isn't directly related to the 1-ad, it is becaseu i have been eating lie crazy trying to cash in on some quality weight gain

Yeah benzi I've been eating alot more too, so my increased BF isn't because of the 1-ad but from the increased cal's I've been consuming.

MY WEIGHT AT THE BEGINNING WAS 182, MY WEIGHT NOW AFTER 26 DAYS OF BEING ON 1-AD IS 193.

I CAN'T GIVE AN ACCURATE MEASUREMENT OF BF % BECAUSE I DIDN'T TAKE IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S WENT UP ALOT PROBALLY 5-6% FROM PRE CYCLE I'M PROBALLY SITTING AT 15% BF RIGHT NOW WHICH IS O.K. BECAUSE I;VE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD STRENGTH GAINS.

 

[pitstone]

Benzi the 3rd week is when i really started to notice it working just make sure to keep your cal's and protein up

 

[Guinness]

Pitstone,

You realize, if your assumption is correct about your BF% increase, that almost all of your weight gain is BF, right? Assuming you have increased 5% in BF, 9 of your 11 lbs are fat....I wouldn't exactly call a 2 lbs increase in LBM (lean body mass) remarkable in 26 days of lifting....You probably could have achieved the same results by increasing your overall caloric intake, but concentrating more on protein intake, and your BF would have stayed the same or even decreased.

Now, I can't speak to your strength gains....those might be legitimately due to the 1-ad, but I wouldn't exactly call your body composition measures evidence of 1-ad efficacy.

For what it's worth, and so it doesn't seem like I'm trying to smack you around here, cuz I'm not, I'm starting week 3 of my 1-ad cycle...first cycle, 300 mg a day (1 pill 3x a day), and my body comp and weight haven't really changed much. However, I haven't really changed my diet at all...I've maybe made an effort to get a little more protein in there, but overall, not much of a change. I do feel as though my strength has gone up (gotta get my written logs into my training spreadsheet to confirm), and I think I look a little bigger and more vascular, but no hard evidence yet. Course, could be because I'm not taking enough of the 1-ad, or maybe it's just not going to work for me at all. Time will tell.

 

[pitstone]

well maybe I'm wrong about my BF but i'm not that far off, i am getting alot stonger and i think that is due to increased BF and the 1-ad. I would defenitly say this shit is working no doubt in my mind, but some of the post on this board about 10-15lbs of lean muscle with no increase in BF i have a hard time believing.

 

[Guinness]

CAn you give some specific examples of how your strength has increased? Do you keep a training log or anything? Maybe give us some pre 1-ad info on some primary lifts (bench, squats, overhead press, curls, etc.) and give us where you are now on those same lifts at this point in your cycle....

Like I said, i have no doubt that your strength is increasing, but without controlling for some factors, it could be due to changes in your diet, other supplements you might have added, changes in your workout routine, or just the fact that because you expect 1-ad to work, you have upped your intensity (placebo)....Again, I'm not bashing 1-ad here...only trying to be objective....I'm using myself as a guinea pig too, so I'll share my results thus far with everyone here shortly...

Oh, only one other thing I have to disagree with in your last post...not sure if you meant it this way, but I doubt very seriously that your strength increases are due to your increase in BF.....that's just not physiologically possible....you are increasing strength because you are increasing muscle mass...you may not be able to see it because of the increased body fat over it, but your muscle mass is increasing if your strength is going up....has to be.

 

[pitstone]

Before 1-ad

bench 275x7
shoulders dumbell press 85x8
squats 275x9
barbell rows 225x10

during 1-ad cycle ( at my 26th day on )

bench 285x10
shoulders dumbell press 90x8
squats 315x10
barbell rows 255x9

 

[Guinness]

Pit,

Nice gains bro...I'd say those numbers offer more evidence of 1-ad's efficacy....

Did you do anything to alter your routine during your cycle, or are you pretty much doing the same workout that you were pre-1 AD?