dbol, sust and deca

[fliedlice]

Will be running a moderate cycle of:
270mg sust 10wks
250mg deca " "10wks
25mg dbol " "5.5 wks, daily
.25mg arimidex 10wks, daily
50mg clomid wks 10-14, daily

If anyone has an opinion lemme know. I have experimented with low dose cycles in the past with little success. I weigh 150 pounds 5'8" and am 26 years old.

 

[JBEXT81]

at 150lbs. - how tall are you???

how many total calories and protien are u taking in a day?

 

[fliedlice]

probs right around 2500, im a pretty clean eater. Not sure if Im gonna eat a lot more on this cycle. Im 5'8" My diet is pretty balanced, I used to eat crazy protein when I was younger cause I thought I would gain. I probably eat like 100 grams a day. Like I said I'm not a big guy.

 

[25homes]

Need more than 100 g of protein

 

[JBEXT81]

yea bro - u need atleast 1.5 grams of protien pre pound of body weight a day. Thats why your cycles are not impressive: UR NOT EATING ENOUGH - PERIOD!!!!.

Learn that if you want to bulk and then maybe, just maybe you might be ready for AAS. Until then your just wasting your time and money

 

[fliedlice]

Well, I'm not on my cycle yet. Diet is the easy part dudes! 1.5grams per pound? No prob!!! I can eat that in red meat and chicken breasts, egg whites, tuna fish. Done and done. With that outta the way can we get back to the cycle? Hows the dose, PCT, OCT? If I keep my calories and protein up does this stack look like a winner? Am I gonna get all watery even if I'm eating clean? Thanks!

 

[JBEXT81]

first off: edit the post you just made no source talk - take that to elite bodiez.com, they'll ban you here for that.

Your cycle: search the forums, and find the answers there. The fact that you didnt know (or that you just plain dont eat enough) about the protein bothers me about you taking anything. Try the diet first and eat constantly. At 150 pounds you could put on 30 pounds if you just eat right. And no, it doesnt matter if your on cycle or not. Once you come off, your maintance calories are going to move up anyway or else you wont maintain what u've gained.

I know this isnt what u want to hear but you need to learn how anabolic food really is. Makes me curious about your workouts?!

 

[fliedlice]

Whoops! So yeah, I mean I have eaten like that in the past. Made me less lean cuz I cant just eat gobs of protein all day without a shitload of carbs cuz I dont like eating heaping portions of meat unless they're floating in pasta or rice. Besides I was a fatkid. Anyway Your right cause I do need to work on the diet. I used to way around 175 until I injured my rotator and I have had a hell of a time getting the weight back on. I still eat more or less the same as I did when I weighed that much. Maybe a little less? Ill definitely increase the calories, but I have heard some different opinions on protein.

"ACSM recommends that endurance and strength-trained athletes have between 1.2 and 1.7 g/kg (0.5 - 0.8 grams per pound) of protein for the best performance and health"

This is what I heard in college, Not saying anyone is wrong just saying that there are some different opinions that I have been exposed to.

 

[JBEXT81]

Jesus man: 1.2 - 1.7 really??? How technical do u wanna get? JUST EAT period

 

[fliedlice]

Lulz, well this has been an interesting discussion. I have been eating properly. I know more than half the people on here about nutrition. I eat a BALANCED diet. Cramming 150 grams of protein down my throat is not going to make me gain 30 pounds. I know this because I used to do it when I was 18, before I had any idea that eating to gain is more than just protein, when I already had 10 times more test running through my system then I do now. Sitting down to massive steaming piles of egg whites with 4 pounds of steaktips on top, chased down with a why protein isolate milkshake from RIPOFF labs. I'm not asking if UPPING MY CALORIES will help me gain, because I know it will. But protein is overrated. Have you ever actually seen anyone make serious gains after buying superplex brand protein powder? I maybe gained a half of a pound on that stuff. 1.2-1.7 was the ASCM guideline, its not gospel and If you actually read my response carefully the only reason why its on there is to prove that your just as technical answer is 2X higher than what the ASCM recommends.

Im beginning to think that your not on here not to give advice but to try and get a rise out of people. I think that you should stop giving advice to people about protein when they're older than 16 and will believe anything the "big guys" tell them.

But I digress, and excuse me if i sound bitter but literally NONE of the questions I asked were answered. oh yeah and what i gave wasnt a source its a lab. They dont sell gear they just make it.