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People under value the power of team work...

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If everyone wasn't so selfish and worked together so much more would get done and people would have more. People lack inspiration and desire and are so caught up in themselves. Most are just lazy with either ridiculous get rich quick schemes and/or they trust no one. The people who trust no one have trouble grasping a team concept because you do have to at times rely on other people for a team to work. My newest work endeavor is promoting and booking house music DJ's. And even though I am now throwing and promoting multiple parties and gaining more experience and slowly making more money I see how much better I could do if I had people with better attitudes. As a leader it is my job to inspire these people to get to where I want to go. This is an arduous task that takes a ton patience and really getting to know people in my mind. I hear so much about people ripping each other off in this industry (House music/clubbing) and how I shouldn't work with certain people etc..
But at the same time people come to me with work propositions because they trust me. It makes me think of the saying "nice guys finish last" It is more like the nice guys who don't have good business sense and control of their emotions that finish last.
This is just a rant of mine as there were no good Glad threads to troll through lately. I have a party in Manhattan I am promoting
the 21st, a party in Brooklyn the 28th, and I throw local ones here on LI as well. I am enjoying this kind of work, but I am learning on daily basis for sure. I already had to fire one of my DJ's because he was being a D-bag. Now he has trouble getting any gigs at all, lol. I honestly hate when my threads like this become chirp threads so say something whether positive or negative. :biggrin:
 
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Making a living promoting parties sounds fun but also doesnt sound like a stable way to make money. I would imagine you have to deal with a lot of people of ill repute and would be hard to maintain your nice guy persona over time
 
Making a living promoting parties sounds fun but also doesnt sound like a stable way to make money. I would imagine you have to deal with a lot of people of ill repute and would be hard to maintain your nice guy persona over time


yeah This....^^

whats weird is I can honestly say in EMS everyone is actually pretty back biting, lotta assholes with GOD or hero complexes that forget everyones a team with the same goal...but weirdly in a garage, theyre not backbiting generally at all...not successful shops anyway
its kind of part of why I strayed away from EMS

makes no sense to me
 
Im sry for not having any threads bro ive been slacking. However u sound like u got a good head on ur shoulders and ur girl is fuckin hot so I WILL listen to u from now on

Really bro? Just like that youre going to start listening to people? Thats kinda a slap in the face to everyone else whos been changing your diapers on here.
 
Lart sounds like hes good for sales/marketing type stuff then


U know I will always follow teh Jacket as well orb. Lart has a hot girl, SB has 4 divorces which ill prob end up having later in life as well, and you got teh Jacket. I really have some awesome advice on here I need to listen to. Im doin good so far though, payin off bills, not talking to my ex AT ALL, and upgrading to better materialistic stuff. Havent had a chance to save up money or invest in silver yet, but thats because of bills. Thx for all the help u have given me bro no homo i love you. btw a pof girl from texas wants to meet lol
 
Thanks for the support everyone. This industry is very tough and the money is not consistent. Just like anything else it takes time. The last party on LI
i had Mel work the door doing guest list and coat check I made 400 dollars at the end of the night after paying people off. Not bad for my 3rd local party , but I have to get rid of the hip-hop room because I hate it. I don't need the money so bad to have that element around me. I have discovered a new DJ
(only 21) and my goal is to build him up and work with him. I got him a great gig and I am just going to take 20% of what he makes in Brooklyn on the
28th. I'll post the flyer later as we will be having some reality TV chick there. I have grown up a ton in the past few years. My focus was only chasing women for most of my twenties. Melohh and I have a great relationship and I think we will continue to. All relationships have ups and downs, but things have only gotten better and not worse after fights etc.. in the past 1 Year and 5 months.
 
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Word. You're telling me.

Everyone bitches about money - but when I talk to them about doing this & that that'll help them - they're fucking lazy, negative, don't care or expect everything to be done for them.

The work ethic of the typical American nowadays is disgusting (esp on the west coast). I miss the image of the hard working american of previous decades. The dreamer & the do'er.

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Making a living promoting parties sounds fun but also doesnt sound like a stable way to make money. I would imagine you have to deal with a lot of people of ill repute and would be hard to maintain your nice guy persona over time

You know that you can say that about a lot of start ups SD. Selling supplements doesn't pay all your bills at first. The successful entrepreneurs that post on this board I think would agree with me.
It takes time for things to take off and also proper planning in that time. I wake up with the same thought every day. "What am I going to do to take my business to another level"
I am not surprised that Bakemeacookie chimed in agreeing with me on this thread, he is an excellant/professional businessman. We all have the same d-bags holding us back and our job is to figure out what the hell we can do to fix it. It really makes you try and think outside the box because people are frustrating. Firing everyone doesn't always work. Firing people at the right time will. Or even better is figuring out a way to get them to be more productive. When I meet "gung ho" people who are down for OUR cause I immediately associate this person as someone worth joining my team in some capacity. Over time you find yourself enough people like that and you will be successful at things.
 
It doesn't sound like beggers can't be choosers when hiring as far as what's out there, but I think there's something to those personality assessments that businesses use. Instead of hiring just on an instinct, have you thought about what it is about them you like and why you hired them? The best people out there for any kind of job are balanced in all 4 basic personality types and they are the best vs the worst of each type (they work to avoid the weak aspects). I can't stand it when I see a person in a position that they're not right for, but where I can see they got it simply because they had the looks and the "I" type of personality. Heard of D.I.S.C.? Check it out and think why each person sucks when they do.
+= positives/strengths - = negatives/weaknesses
D= +dominant, direct, fearless, not sensitive -pig headed, knows it all, rebel, rude
I= +fearless showman, life of the party, outgoing, smiley -flakey, too much only show and low substance, only cares about their image and not the company's, unorganized
S= +supportive, sympathetic, sacrificing -sensitive, submissive, can give in too easily
C= +accurate, correct, organized, can lead but not with fun like I, nor dynamic like D -too rigid, afraid to bend the rules, unimaginative

Party business like your's needs "high Is", but they need to be strong S if their YOUR support, and strong C to get things right

No one is a charicature and we all have at least some of each, though sometimes only in certain situations.

It helps me know how to deal with people who annoy me. I'm high S and I and high C only for rules and laws and high D with kids. My nemesis- high Ds who are mostly the weak points of D vs the strong.

Babies: are all immature and the weak points of DISC, so are criminals. They are still babies and never learned to overcome the weak negative aspects of their personalities.

Again, it's just putting a label to what you already know by instinct, but delineation I think helps to see things more clearly. So, beware of the high I or D who are weak in S and C. They will impress you upon hire then let you down when push comes to shove.
 
It doesn't sound like beggers can't be choosers when hiring as far as what's out there, but I think there's something to those personality assessments that businesses use. Instead of hiring just on an instinct, have you thought about what it is about them you like and why you hired them? The best people out there for any kind of job are balanced in all 4 basic personality types and they are the best vs the worst of each type (they work to avoid the weak aspects). I can't stand it when I see a person in a position that they're not right for, but where I can see they got it simply because they had the looks and the "I" type of personality. Heard of D.I.S.C.? Check it out and think why each person sucks when they do.
+= positives/strengths - = negatives/weaknesses
D= +dominant, direct, fearless, not sensitive -pig headed, knows it all, rebel, rude
I= +fearless showman, life of the party, outgoing, smiley -flakey, too much only show and low substance, only cares about their image and not the company's, unorganized
S= +supportive, sympathetic, sacrificing -sensitive, submissive, can give in too easily
C= +accurate, correct, organized, can lead but not with fun like I, nor dynamic like D -too rigid, afraid to bend the rules, unimaginative

Party business like your's needs "high Is", but they need to be strong S if their YOUR support, and strong C to get things right

No one is a charicature and we all have at least some of each, though sometimes only in certain situations.

It helps me know how to deal with people who annoy me. I'm high S and I and high C only for rules and laws and high D with kids. My nemesis- high Ds who are mostly the weak points of D vs the strong.

Babies: are all immature and the weak points of DISC, so are criminals. They are still babies and never learned to overcome the weak negative aspects of their personalities.

Again, it's just putting a label to what you already know by instinct, but delineation I think helps to see things more clearly. So, beware of the high I or D who are weak in S and C. They will impress you upon hire then let you down when push comes to shove.

I Had a similar lecture when I did work for a large company.
Not exactly this, but similar. I think breaking down a team and explaining it in certain terms can lead to greater unity through better understanding. But overall people lack the drive to even enter a team to get to this point.
 
I Had a similar lecture when I did work for a large company.
Not exactly this, but similar. I think breaking down a team and explaining it in certain terms can lead to greater unity through better understanding. But overall people lack the drive to even enter a team to get to this point.

Lacking drive to even enter a team? The weak aspects of each are fear driven. What's their fear?

D- loss of control
I- loss of acceptance
S- loss of stability and dealing w/confrontation
C- chaos
 
First of all, Enter key

Second of all, The business you engage is bound to involve scummy, backstabbing and vile people in general. People in that scene are generally scumbags or drug addicts. It's also a very fickle business. I think dealing with those type of people is part of the whole deal, unfortunately. That's why everyone i've known has gotten out of that business.

Third, People undervalue the power of teamwork, but organizations don't. Most big companies or even small companies with a good understanding of organizational behavior build their businesses based on this foundation. There's a reason that there's essentially an entire field of study dedicated to teamwork and how people function independently and interdependently within a business. Again, it's just a product of dealing with mickey mouse people and scumbags that you encounter this unfortunately.
 
I learned from the big companies I worked at. I see the advantages of that way of life. My business' are hobbies for me. As long as I keep it like that I'll always be happy. And you are wrong to say that the clubbing industry is that much worse than others. It has that stigma, but I experience that type of behavior everywhere. In the clubbing industry I deal with more idiots than I do scammers. A good businessman is a good businessman. He knows what is going on. That is why I have started to manage some DJ's and get them bookings.I handle other peoples affairs. Common sense and hard work usually go a long way. But to be successful you really have to put a lot of time into things, that can be tough.
 
Off tangent a bit, but I wonder what you could outsource to an assitant in India for $5/hr to ease your load? Four hour work week says the more you outsource the better. But, that would leave your M girl w/o a job? And, who needs another American w/o a job? Oh, China.
 
Off tangent a bit, but I wonder what you could outsource to an assitant in India for $5/hr to ease your load? Four hour work week says the more you outsource the better. But, that would leave your M girl w/o a job? And, who needs another American w/o a job? Oh, China.

WTF is a four hour work week?
You cant outsource critical core functions that comprise the heart of your business
But some things you can certainly outsource
i.e. A car dealer wouldnt outsource sales department but could outsource marketing.
 
WTF is a four hour work week?
You cant outsource critical core functions that comprise the heart of your business
But some things you can certainly outsource
i.e. A car dealer wouldnt outsource sales department but could outsource marketing.

Word. People forget not everything can be outsourced. Providing that talent is even available overseas in the first place.

It's actually really difficult to outsource stuff that isn't monkey production-oriented. Widgets, Software, Phone Support, Data Entry are all easy. Everything else becomes difficult and sometimes more expensive than it is here.

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