Do I need an anti-aroma with this stack?

[Smokescreen]

I'm currently taking 125mgs of Test Cyp per week *HRT dose*. Alongside ONE HUNDRED Mg's of Proviron per day *Zero key doesn't work on my keyboard atm lol*

Also taking Two Hundred mg's of DHEA *again this is HRT related* per day *this brings my DHEA levels to the very top but NOT out of range*

Been on the Proviron already for 5 weeks. And as of now I'm starting to get a bit of gyno. It's more on one nipple than the other. The other is barely anything but I do feel a tiny micro bit of gyno starting to form. And this always happens to me a few weeks into proviron use. And I'm NOT the only one this happens too. I've read here on Elite of this happening to a few bros. Where they start to get gyno from proviron after a few weeks.

Always read that Proviron works as an anti-aroma. Inhibiting estrogen from forming. I call total BULLSHIT on this theory. I get blood work 2-3 times a year. And I'm a very frequent user of Proviron. And NEVER EVER once has proviron lowered my E levels. NOT ONCE!!! So I have NO idea why anyone says it works like an anti-aroma.

Anywhos! If that was the case. I woudn't be getting gyno like I am now. Now would I?

The only drugs that lower my E is anti-aromas like Adex, Aromasin and Letro. But usually when I take those drugs my mood tends to become flat and dull. So that is why I usually don't take anti-aromas unless I truly must! Like now would be a good time! LOL

I'm thinking on stopping the proviron for now. And moving onto Masteron at Two Hundred Mg's per week. Because the last time I tried masteron at FOUR hundred mg's per week. I couldn't sleep for shit that whole first week I was on the stuff! And also bumping up my Test Cyp dose from 125 mgs to Two Hundred per week divided into 2 weekly doses of ONE Hundred.

The question is.....

If I start taking Masteron. Do I still need to use an anti-aroma? Like I do now while I'm on Proviron? Or will Masteron be suffice enough to lower my E in order to stop this gyno from progressing any further? Or at least STOP any further E from forming or increasing?

 

[RickO'Shea]

Man I have no Idea on this one, but I'll do some research Carth. As far as the Proviron is concerned, maybe it's like having an allergy (not saying you do at all), but maybe it's like that....meaning maybe for you, It's actually quite sensitive to estrogen whereas with others it actually reduces it. Kinda like I don't get estrogen problems....but I have that super sensitivity to prolactin....maybe I'm way off base here, but who knows...

 

[moya]

possibly...
mast takes place of an AI for me on at least 350 test... but remember, everyone is different... there is no way you are going to know unless you try...

dropping the proviron may be a better option, then you can see if the gyno symptoms continue and work from there...

btw, if youre lazy like me you could still type out 100, just like this, 1OO...

 

[XMAN.]

possibly...
mast takes place of an AI for me on at least 350 test... but remember, everyone is different... there is no way you are going to know unless you try...

dropping the proviron may be a better option, then you can see if the gyno symptoms continue and work from there...

btw, if youre lazy like me you could still type out 100, just like this, 1OO...

agreed, u need to try things first to know, mast usually helps, and maybe ur prog. or prolac. r a bit high, maybe u need some dostinex instead or a small dose combo od dos. and arom. (u know i always take arom. at 12.5mg and dos. 0.25mg both twice a week for maintenance and never had a prob. , the real prob. is that ppl tend to imitate each other and start with high doses with ancillaries when they can benefit from a much lower dose specially the ones on hrt cuz it's already a low dose of test that need few to maintain a healthy balance.
and yes proviron don't do shit for gyno once it starts it mayb boost test on a cycle but never felt that much of estro. blocking, i always had to drop the test till i get an AI on hand same thing with deca and prolac tried proviron winny mast and all dht's and didn't do shit it was dostinex that helped only. that's me and everybody is different, so at the end it's ur own experience that will tell u, but always start with the lowest dose with everything and experiment things.

 

[RADAR]

Yes You do thats the purpose is to solidify gains so you don't loose them

 

[caribeman]

Proviron did nothing for me estrogen I still needed to take adex x 3 per week. It did increase the size of my loads for some reason.... but that was it.

 

[XMAN.]

Proviron did nothing for me estrogen I still needed to take adex x 3 per week. It did increase the size of my loads for some reason.... but that was it.

yeah that's the reason i like it other than it's libido boosting, but i always get acne from highly androgenic compounds.

 

[Para_Shoot]

Man, I think DHEA at that dose is causing water retention and gyno symptoms. I personally think taking it is bullshit. I was taking DHEA at 100mg a day and I notice water retention and excess estrogen sides. I stopped taking it and shed the water. Read the back of the label on the bottle. Causes estrogenic side effects. I am also with you on the proviron thing. My view on it was that since proviron frees up bound test, then you have all this free test that starts to aromatize.

 

[sony190]

i would have to agree with Xman and some of the bros here, from my experience (still going through it) the only thing that has made a difference has been letro and dostinex, if your concerned with the gyno (who wouldnt be) i would try low doses of those, i have ran high doses of Mast and other than leaning me out a bit and giving me acne i believe it is not strong enough as a stand alone aroma, also proviron is weak in this regard also, more of a precontest drying out compound but again a poor choice for aroma hope this helps

 

[sony190]

Test is Test and it aromatizes just the same even at low doses even on hrt