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Go! Barry Go!

The reason for all the Eco growth is that people know the GOP is taking over in Jan. then in 2012...
 
ledhead said:
The reason for all the Eco growth is that people know the GOP is taking over in Jan. then in 2012...
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^^^ this

We're in an awkward situation right now where if we do too well in 2011/2012, it might get that disaster re-elected which would just crash us again.
 
mrplunkey said:
^^^ this

We're in an awkward situation right now where if we do too well in 2011/2012, it might get that disaster re-elected which would just crash us again.
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I know!!!! He's playing his cards right you have to admit. Kissing the right wings ass.. If it works
he'll take the credit... and the majority of people are inept when it comes to Politics,and will give him the credit. That's what I'm afraid of... and soooo are you!!!!!!
 
ledhead said:
The reason for all the Eco growth is that people know the GOP is taking over in Jan. then in 2012...
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The economy has been growing for the last 18 months. My portfolio is up 18% from Jan 1, 2010.

But it has not translated to new jobs and that's what killing the democrats.
 
nydj66 said:
The economy has been growing for the last 18 months. My portfolio is up 18% from Jan 1, 2010.

But it has not translated to new jobs and that's what killing the democrats.
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Not translating to new jobs is hurting the American people.The Dems hurt themselves all by themselves. Anyway I was talking about him giving in too tax breaks for big business, and the private
sector which creates jobs. That's what creates jobs!!! As for your portfolio that's fools gold if he didn't sign this bill today your portfolio what of taking a serious hit in the next few months. A double
dip recession was coming.. The Eco growth we have been seeing is a by-product of them stupid stimulus deals which only lasts for a short period of time then hyper-inflation what of hit hard to make up for all that money they printed...
 
nydj66 said:
The economy has been growing for the last 18 months. My portfolio is up 18% from Jan 1, 2010.

But it has not translated to new jobs and that's what killing the democrats.
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Good observation. There are only two ways to have a jobless recovery: massive productivity gains (which isn't happening) or capital shifting away from US jobs (which is.what is happening)

Barry and company have killed the US worker.
 
mrplunkey said:
Good observation. There are only two ways to have a jobless recovery: massive productivity gains (which isn't happening) or capital shifting away from US jobs (which is.what is happening)

Barry and company have killed the US worker.
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You do realize I keep bumping this thread awaiting your retort

:qt:
 
companies are thick with profits and savings, with the tax cuts staying in place, they will begin to spend..
 
UI benefits extended for 13 months. My gravy train never ends. Although its getting put to good use as business startup capital.
Stimulus FTW
 
i have a hiring session/job interview on thursday may be starting a new career. where if i land the job i will be working consistently instead of when a construction outfit has work and if the weather is allright to work in.
 
chris302001 said:
He quit smoking too. Good for him!
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Gotta give him props for that.

But I do think it's funny for him to advertise his super bowl menu with bratwurst, chips, beer, etc. while his wife is preaching about the virtues of eating healthy.

It would kinda be like having a fat surgeon general.
 
Im going to ask a question and it's going to sound very stupid to most of you, but bare with me.

How does the President have that much control over whether employers have job openings or not?

This is not a leading question, its a question out of curiosity, strictly because I don't know.
 
Smurfy said:
Im going to ask a question and it's going to sound very stupid to most of you, but bare with me.

How does the President have that much control over whether employers have job openings or not?

This is not a leading question, its a question out of curiosity, strictly because I don't know.
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1) Tax policy. Higher taxes impede businesses greatly. Even if he can't get his increases through Congress, a sitting president can implement a huge number of administrative measures via executive order.

2) EPA policy. Similarly to tax policy, a lot of what he can do is via executive order. The EPA trying to regulate CO2 as a hazardous material is a great example.

3) FDA policy. See (1) and (2). I still remember Clinton's guy who tried to order cigarettes be regulated as a drug delivery device.

4) CMS policy. Same. This has to do with what gets reimbursed and what doesn't. This agency has massive non-congressional power.

5) Labor policy. This is one of Barry's favorites. Even if he can't get his policies enacted into law, he can order that only unions be eligible for certain jobs as well as influence the rules the NLRB applies to companies as it relates to unions and union activities.
 
Smurfy said:
Im going to ask a question and it's going to sound very stupid to most of you, but bare with me.

How does the President have that much control over whether employers have job openings or not?

This is not a leading question, its a question out of curiosity, strictly because I don't know.
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It's a matter of perception.

If the POTUS emphasizes social reform without the consequences to big business the market will adjust accordingly.

It's knot so much the president as the controlling party.

The president can orate all kinds of schemes of grandeur, butt if his proposed legislation doesn't have any real chance to pass the market will knot be effected which is directly correlated with job growth.

The current guy managed to persuade congress to hemorrhage stimulus funding without accountability that will take decades to recover from and ultimately will negatively impact business and job growth.
 
PICK3 said:
It's a matter of perception.

If the POTUS emphasizes social reform without the consequences to big business the market will adjust accordingly.

It's knot so much the president as the controlling party.

The president can orate all kinds of schemes of grandeur, butt if his proposed legislation doesn't have any real chance to pass the market will knot be effected which is directly correlated with job growth.

The current guy managed to persuade congress to hemorrhage stimulus funding without accountability that will take decades to recover from and ultimately will negatively impact business and job growth.
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^^^
I know little about politics ... and care even less.

talking strictly from the old glory hole




*taps foot* awaiting a Plunkey retort *taps foot*
 
PICK3 said:
It's a matter of perception.

If the POTUS emphasizes social reform without the consequences to big business the market will adjust accordingly.

It's knot so much the president as the controlling party.

The president can orate all kinds of schemes of grandeur, butt if his proposed legislation doesn't have any real chance to pass the market will knot be effected which is directly correlated with job growth.

The current guy managed to persuade congress to hemorrhage stimulus funding without accountability that will take decades to recover from and ultimately will negatively impact business and job growth.
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^^^ very true.

The only deviation from that is the president has incredible direct control through administrative agencies.

I totally agree on the stimulus thing. That was $875B right out the window. Let's say we had used it to create $500B of actual assets/infrastructure. Then we'd only reaaaaaally be out $375B. But instead, we wasted virtually all of it. So that's $875B that will come directly out of our and our children's pockets.
 
PICK3 said:
I often speak authoritatively about shit that I know very little about.




just sayin'
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Not true!

You often speak of MO'dom, and I'd consider you the world's authority on the subject.

Just sayin'
 
I suspect we'll have at least a mild double-dip. It may be worse.
 
Pick, the economy goes from boom to bust and nothing the president or congress does changes that other than increasing the pain...just sayin...
 
javaguru said:
Pick, the economy goes from boom to bust and nothing the president or congress does changes that other than increasing the pain...just sayin...
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It will still be recorded as such and we'll hear about it at ad nauseam in his reelection effort



just sayin'
 
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