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DJLegacy2k1
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Ok so he didn't say it's anything like 9/11, just that it will change policies. Maybe this time we won't have freedoms abolished or pass "patriot acts" to allow wire tapping and other fun things, that would be a plus.
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mrplunkey
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Obama put Bush's wire-tapping rules on steroids.
DJLegacy2k1
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All these pro-athletes getting busted and being retards is what is adding to their bad light...
redsamurai
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I didn't hear him compare it to 9/11....I might not have made that comparison but the severity of what's happened cannot be understated. People don't fully understand what this is going to do economically to that region. I'm less worried about the environmental aspect because we don't matter to the ocean. The ocean will deal with this in the way it knows how...but it will take a ridiculously long time and that means that people living on the gulf coast are fucked. Even if fish do come back after some time who's going to want to eat anything they know has come from the gulf? I know I probably will not eat a damn thing that was caught in the gulf in my lifetime.
plunky, in terms of human life loss there obviously is no comparrison. However the negative impact on the ocean and gulf economy and culture will be felt for many many years to come. This is a disaster beyond anything our oceans have ever seen, just as 9/11 was an attack on home soil unlike anything we had seen. While I disagree with using it to demonize big oil, I just spent a weekend with a oil company lobbyist who detailed that bp was responsible for nearly 95% of all incidents of having accidents or breaking regulation standards in the last ten years (while other companies shared the final percentage). She gave actual numbers, I just don't remember them lol. I think something in that merrits a second look.
oh and red...if you don't think the health of the ocean affects EVERYTHING, you are sorely mistaken. But I won't rant about that because I know most are happy to turn a blind eye. But this will greatly hurt the economy in that region. Just last weekend I tried to order crawfish and was told that they were taking it off the menu because of the spill.
redsamurai
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the ocean can deal with this, but in a very prolonged manner. I know it affects everything....but everything will eventually come back, just that we might not be here when it does...lolz. I've pretty much givin up on trying to convince certain people that taking immaculate care of our environmnet is a fundamental priniciple of our existence....it just bounces off so whatever. But what we're going to see here is that even economically, we are profoundly intertwined with our environment. And maybe it takes some folks losing "billions" of their precious little green paper for something to set it....who knows.
mrplunkey
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My comment had nothing to do with actual steroids.
mrplunkey
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It is also unfair to compare a planned, callous attack aimed at civilians with an accident that occurred in the pursuit of a necessary natural resource.
DJLegacy2k1
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He compared it in terms of changing policy and shaping new policies, that is all in that statement...not sure the issue here...as I said, everyone is on a witch hunt for Obama.
Technically, we could be using alternate fuels by now, but god knows putting big oil out of business now would be "bad for business".
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