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RADAR
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I on a maintance diet right now,getting ready to up it big time tho, summer cycle starts soon.
Basic Food Right now I do this from Nov/Dec When i bulk,now maintance,next week i will run the sarm another couple of weeks until i start my cycle.
RADAR
thanks for the info radar, ordered my SARMS friday night, well early saturday morning, so im hoping it gets here soon. since im injured and not lifting or exercising much, and eating pretty much whatever i want right now im very interested to see what this will do for me if anything....thanks man
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I think you will be pleased,i have a nagging wrist injust that is almost completely gone after taking this stuff
RADAR
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Another update, i am getting pumped all over and staying that way after training,nothing else has been added ,just more protein to my diet. and I have done this before so i know its the Sarms. Acne is almost completely gone. another plus.
Anyone who competes i suggest using this 4 weeks prior to a show and on the mornin of Show day. This will fill those muscles up and keep you from looking dehydrated.
RADAR
Nice journal RADAR...thanks. Very similar to my experience to date. I am a little older then you but not by a lot. That probably plays into my experience being so close to what you describe. I agree, I not experiencing any suppression. I am not on HRT and I would notice it - I absolutely hate being even being slightly suppressed let alone shutdown.
What I am seeing as a trend, as soon as some go over the 50 mark, they start getting sides. Adjusting to the to low light and at night seems to be one of the more common sides.
50 split 2x's per day, with 2 days off in a row per week, seems to be the sweet spot in terms of a Benefits:Sides ratio.
What I am seeing as a trend, as soon as some go over the 50 mark, they start getting sides. Adjusting to the to low light and at night seems to be one of the more common sides.
50 split 2x's per day, with 2 days off in a row per week, seems to be the sweet spot in terms of a Benefits:Sides ratio.
Carlito B
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RADAR
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How Ironic ,i was just doing a search on my journal and here it is on the first page.
Updates I am training like its a breeze, I'm training like i'm on but with the off feeling.
getting ready to add some Beastdrol to this and see what happens.
still no acne on my back,no vision problems reported at 50mgs /Day
RADAR
Updates I am training like its a breeze, I'm training like i'm on but with the off feeling.
getting ready to add some Beastdrol to this and see what happens.
still no acne on my back,no vision problems reported at 50mgs /Day
RADAR
DJLegacy2k1
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I have been closer to 75mg ed using the dropped but I have VERY little eye sight problems either...in the house with lights OFF its kind of hard to see but when wouldnt it be under those conditions, I have been out and drive fine no real issues other than that either. I did feel a little sick for a couple days which put a damper on my training, but still feel good overall. I am sleeping a hell of alot too...
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DJLegacy2k1
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Yeah I havent noticed too much so Ive tried to keep it near 50mg but sometimes since im using the dropped i may be slightly over, but Im not TOO concerned with being SLIGHTLY over the 50mg since I havent had any issues. If I had noticed more issues than I will get switch over to a more accurate measurement system. Since Im still realitively young im exhausting every legal to borderline legal method before moving forward, a short stint with Anavar, and PHs, are as far as Ive taken it, but SARMS is having some pretty good potential so far. Def speeding recovery and ability to move the weights even with higher cardio and lower carbs. Im wonderig how long it is safe to run SARMS, wish we had more info...
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DJLegacy2k1
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Yeah, dreams have been "realistic" and "detailed"...kind of strange...I have noticed the last couple days a slightly lower libido, but the guys seem fine, but I had a cold so being sick could have effected things, im not worried at this point, I am 2 weeks in today. Lots of sleep, worst part is a WAKE UP tired, takes me a few to shake the cob webs...Or that coul be the fact ive been up late playing Xbox the last couple of weeks, im not sure lol
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ChemWiz
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75mg is when the vision issues kick in for me....But I cant help but keep moving up little by little.
RADAR
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Re: Just ordered my SARMs-4
another update pretty much the same ,still no vision problems,no acne. no sure if it's me ot lifting weights has gotten easier and i don't seem to tire easily
another update pretty much the same ,still no vision problems,no acne. no sure if it's me ot lifting weights has gotten easier and i don't seem to tire easily
DJLegacy2k1
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I just got 30" of snow, I will be needing the SARMS for shoveling and recovery lol...I may die! 
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Re: Just ordered my SARMs-4
Thats exactly the way I feel. I'm deffinately tiring as before.
Thats exactly the way I feel. I'm deffinately tiring as before.
RADAR
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I just got 30" of snow, I will be needing the SARMS for shoveling and recovery lol...I may die!
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LOL,I was just talking to another member taking AGX lipostim to help shovel snow,he has gotten 22 inches in New Jersey
RADAR
crulexis
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Yo Radar man , I have a quick question I think you Addressed already but can't find it.. I tried taking some SARMS last morning, and I want to take it in 20MG Intervals, so I used an Insulin 29Guage 1ML Syringe... Problem is when I try to take out the S4 , nothing comes out, and I can't really put the bottle upside down cause it would all spill.. Have you been using the Dropper or?
Take a slin pin, cut the tip off including the pin with some scissors, viola a syringe to measure up to 1ml. I used the 1/2 cc pin and measures .50 when full which is my dose.
truckdaddy
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dont pull the S4 through the needle my friend. Cut the needle off. It will pull through perfect
Hairloss updadte: I am super prone so for those of you that are like me I did 30 days on this stuff and no hair loss. I think I actually lost more hair in 1 week from the HCG I took after (I know not necessary but it was reconstituted and sitting in the fridge) than I did from 30 days of sarms.
RADAR
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I honestly believe it is Perfect for PCT as i have seen a Journal by Mrplunky and after starting sarms the muscles were full as were mine.
RADAR
RADAR
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I've tried the 2 day split and i cannot tell any difference splitting that taking 50 all at once.
Thats just me,everyone responds differently so be the first
RADAR
RADAR - you experiencing any lower back pumps? I am getting back pumps through out the day. Not painful but definitely noticible.
RADAR
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No back pumps here anyone else running sarms get this?
SARMS may have changed the way we look at PCT forever. It used to be dreaded but now...not so bad of a prospect.
At 50mg per day, the back pumps I am getting are what I would expect from dbol.
I noticed driving back from Berkeley late the other night, after punching throught the caldecott tunel, it took a while form my eyes to adjust to night driving. (The inside tunnel is fairly bright and it was very dark outside.) Also, headlights in my rear veiw mirror had a distinct yellow tint to them.
mrplunkey
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I was taking 50 mg/day and upped the dose to 80 mg/day. Then I caught a stomach bug and stopped using it for 3 days or so. The yellow tint subsided even after I resumed 80 mg/day.
I've been back on 80 mg (maybe closer to 100 mg) /day for a few weeks now and I'm just barely noticing the yellow tint again. It seems like it takes more SARMS-S4 to produce the yellow tint now.
And yes, it definitely lessens my night vision -- it just takes me longer to adjust. What I'm also noticing though is that it definitely targets abdominal fat like testosterone does. It helped me lean-out my abs so easily it's embarassing.
truckdaddy
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Great log and a great read.....keep it up.
RADAR
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Well today my partner went all out on the weights, I have a torn rotator cuff from a car wreck 20 yrs back still aggrivates me at times, since sarms I have had no problems with it, so i started light with the weight so not to aggrivate it, after a few light sets of high reps i decided to see what sarms would do, the weight i used to struggle with starting back after a lay off is now used as my warmup,i pumped out a lot of reps and was ready to keep going but decided not to push my injury. however we did go to about 80% of our max with no problem, My training partner outweighs me by a tad over 100 pounds i out repped him on every exercise.
I know its the sarms.
RADAR
I know its the sarms.
RADAR
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That sure is good to hear RADAR and I bet you are feeling good about hitting the weights again.
Great log!
Great log!
RADAR
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I feel like a flower that has started growing again.
I have been shut in for so long due to rain everyday & no sunshine Blah!
RADAR
pumped5540
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I ordered mine about a week and a half ago, and got an e-mail that they were not shipping new orders til 2/08... Hopefully will be in this week!
I think RADAR's protocol is spot on. I started with it, then went to 7 days per week and that is when I started with sides. Nothing scary but I listened to the message my body was sending me and have gone back to 5 on 2 off.
It does seem like my body is hungry for it after 2 days off!
I hope I'm just lucky. No vision sides 14 days in. I am using a slin pin minus the pin to give me accurate dosing to give a fair review in my log.
RADAR
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Yeah! listen to your body ,there are receptors in the eye also, and we still don't know what long term usage will bring.
RADAR
truckdaddy
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yep, keep it around 50mg and you will be good.
RADAR
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I take 50mg in the morning and train at 3 pm.
I have tried before training,splitting dosages,i found that 5 days on-2 off is a good spot after running it 5 weeks straight.
d_rson
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Cool, thanks. I'm doing 25 @ 6:30am and 25 @ 2:30 pm and workout @ 5:30 pm, 5 days on 2 days off. I'm in week 2, and plan to continue this way this week. I'm think then of trying just 50mg in the morning next week to compare.
I have tried both protocols and notice no difference. Let us know what you experience!
Do you think it is because you took time off? I am simply not getting that sore no matter how hard I hit the weights.
RADAR
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It was the time off and the sarms didn't help abit, it allowed me to train without getting tired and i was pushing more weight than i normally do,
Tomorrow is my biggest day ----SQUATS! Let me die......
RADAR
d_rson
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Yeah, the soreness is, like, "in the background". I can tell I worked out, but I simply am not SORE compared to what I am putting myself through.
tacappa
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Great log RADAR, glad to see your still keeping it going.
I have been run over by a mack truck (actually a 1995 international dumptruck). Put me out for a while and hurt like a motherf*cker.
Keep the log going, it seems like everyone is interested in sarms and the effects both positive and negative. I know I am, I have some and just waiting for a good time to start. Hope all is well with you.
folderslide
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radar, can u just confirm whether or not you're using the sarms from our sponsor?
RADAR
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Great log RADAR, glad to see your still keeping it going.
I have been run over by a mack truck (actually a 1995 international dumptruck). Put me out for a while and hurt like a motherf*cker.
Keep the log going, it seems like everyone is interested in sarms and the effects both positive and negative. I know I am, I have some and just waiting for a good time to start. Hope all is well with you.
Holy Jeezus thats a serious whallop...well i wasn't that sore but i was "don't touch me"sore
RADAR
RADAR
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I Am Using SARMS-4 from our sponsor Sarms Search
So far things are going good i feel great and my joints feel good -training is a breeze and I SURVIVED SQUATS!!!!!!!!!
RADAR
truckdaddy
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who else is there to get it from?
folderslide
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.com carries it, as well as a couple of other suppliers.
folderslide
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lol i cant even answer your question with the filters on the forum. take the first letter of each word and add ...............Brain Fart
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Hey RADAR i dont have time to read every page but im on cycle right now, also training for football and was wondering if taking sarms during PCT would keep my strength or even continue to get me stronger?
DJLegacy2k1
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DJLegacy2k1
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You will get DIFFERING opinions on this topic seeing as SARMS is so new.
View Point #1) Yes, use it in LOW DOSE 50mg or LESS during PCT to help keep muscle and strength.
View Point #2) Some medical studies showed that higher doses (considered over 50mg) DID show some SLIGHT shut down. Obviously every person is different on when they get sides and some have ran 100mg and not seen shutdown but if you search the boards there are a good number of people that had libido issues at these higher doses and were starting to show signs of some shutdown no matter how slight. Most products that have POTENTIAL for ANY shutdown are normally not wanted in PCT, but would be better used at the END of PCT or JUST AFTER PCT in a BRIDGE till your next cycle.
Im not going to go AGAINST the FEW medical studies and several people that felt slight shut down so Im going with Option #2 but some people on here will argue that they used 100mg and were fine but remember just because SOME people didnt show signs of shutdown doesnt mean that goes for EVERYONE, so its your risk. Im running it ALONE with LIPOSHRED Stack for a little cut up before basketball and I love the stuff but around 100mg for about a week I stopped having the "desire" to have sex, my equipment still WORKED my libido was just down. I may run a 2nd bottle of SARMS at 50mg only and continue this a little long to see how much RECOMP potential the stuff has past 4 weeks.
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PS: If you can responsibly keep it at 50mg without wanting to bump it up, it may help you in your PCT.
View Point #1) Yes, use it in LOW DOSE 50mg or LESS during PCT to help keep muscle and strength.
View Point #2) Some medical studies showed that higher doses (considered over 50mg) DID show some SLIGHT shut down. Obviously every person is different on when they get sides and some have ran 100mg and not seen shutdown but if you search the boards there are a good number of people that had libido issues at these higher doses and were starting to show signs of some shutdown no matter how slight. Most products that have POTENTIAL for ANY shutdown are normally not wanted in PCT, but would be better used at the END of PCT or JUST AFTER PCT in a BRIDGE till your next cycle.
Im not going to go AGAINST the FEW medical studies and several people that felt slight shut down so Im going with Option #2 but some people on here will argue that they used 100mg and were fine but remember just because SOME people didnt show signs of shutdown doesnt mean that goes for EVERYONE, so its your risk. Im running it ALONE with LIPOSHRED Stack for a little cut up before basketball and I love the stuff but around 100mg for about a week I stopped having the "desire" to have sex, my equipment still WORKED my libido was just down. I may run a 2nd bottle of SARMS at 50mg only and continue this a little long to see how much RECOMP potential the stuff has past 4 weeks.
-Legacy
PS: If you can responsibly keep it at 50mg without wanting to bump it up, it may help you in your PCT.
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Carlito B
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ONLY sarmsesearch.com ( ths forum's sponsor ) sell 100% LEGIT S4, I highly doubt others are selling legit S4.
RADAR
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I have a lot of reading to do to catch up. Looks to be interesting. Good luck Radar if u r still running this.
RADAR
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I agree, as i am told it is very hard to produce and the materials are extremely hard to find.
Sarms-4 Is Real and it's available here at Elite!
BTW I am not endorcing I'm just telling it like i see it.
This journal is a record of the effects of sarms and how it affect the body's receptors and HPTA.
RADAR
DJLegacy2k1
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I just placed an another order through our sponsor so that I may continue to test this product for a little while longer and see the results past 4 weeks. I am trying to figure out what I can stack with it for a Lean Building Fat Cutting Stack...
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RADAR
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DJLegacy2k1
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Radar you have aPM, I didnt see this message before I sent it though...
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truckdaddy
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try the tbol!
RADAR
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Sure I will be more than happy to
SERMS----Selective estrogen receptor modulators, called SERMs for short, block the effects of estrogen in the breast tissue. SERMs work by sitting in the estrogen receptors in breast cells. If a SERM is in the estrogen receptor, there is no room for estrogen and it can't attach to the cell. If estrogen isn't attached to a breast cell, the cell doesn't receive estrogen's signals to grow and multiply.
Cells in other tissues in the body, such as bones and the uterus, also have estrogen receptors. But each estrogen receptor has a slightly different structure, depending on the kind of cell it is in. So breast cell estrogen receptors are different from bone cell estrogen receptors and both of those estrogen receptors are different from uterine estrogen receptors. As their name says, SERMs are "selective" – this means that a SERM that blocks estrogen's action in breast cells can activate estrogen's action in other cells, such as bone, liver, and uterine cells.
There are three SERMs:
tamoxifen (also called tamoxifen citrate; brand name: Nolvadex)
Evista (chemical name: raloxifene)
Fareston (chemical name: toremifene)
SARMS-Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMs) provide the benefits of traditional anabolic/androgenic steroids such as testosterone (including increased muscle mass, fat loss, and bone density), while showing a lower tendency to produce unwanted side effects. They are a unique class of molecules currently under development for treatment of a variety of diseases that were previously treated with anabolic steroids and other medications. Known as a Peptide-SARMS unlike anabolic steroids, SARMs generally produce fewer unwanted side effects on non-target tissues such as the prostate, hairline, sebaceous glands, and secondary sexual organs. Some SARMs have even been developed specifically for the treatment of those kinds of side effects (like for benign prostate hypertrophy).
Current oral androgen replacement therapy is very limited, with the only available forms of testosterone being Andriol (which is widely seen as expensive and ineffective) and Methyltestosterone (which is liver toxic). SARMs represent an alternative to the currently available oral testosterone preparations, and offer the user molecules that exhibit high oral bioavailability without the liver toxicity.
Although these molecules are tissue-selective with regards to their effects, they are not perfectly tissue-selective. Some display a disparity of anabolic (*tissue building) versus androgenic (*secondary sexual characteristic promoting) effect as high as 10:1 (although it should be noted that some have a much lower ratio). In practical terms, it would be highly unlikely that an effective muscle building dose would cause any noticeable side effects, and especially not when compared to traditionally prescribed anabolic steroids such as testosterone.
HGH(human growth hormone) IGF (insulin Growth Factor) a host of other compounds such as SARMS-4 all are a part of peptides designed for a different purpose.
RADAR
RADAR
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Well I took my first SARMS again 45 min before training ,got out of the shower and looked in the mirror, Now i don't know if this is muscle maturity or what but what i saw i was like awww Man!!! I was pumped a completely different look than what i have been seeing after stopping sarms, This stuff is the bomb.
RADAR
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metalfujimi
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Im excited ordered mine today. are you gonna get blood work?
DJLegacy2k1
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Ok Ok Ok...
Sarms/Tbol will be the base of the next run
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Sarms/Tbol will be the base of the next run
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truckdaddy
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Ok Ok Ok...
Sarms/Tbol will be the base of the next run
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smart man!
DJLegacy2k1
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I will be building the Cycle out of:
SARMS-s4
T-bol
HCGenerate
Formestane
Liver Sups
Lipoflame/Lipostim
Unleashed
Just so you know
-Legacy
SARMS-s4
T-bol
HCGenerate
Formestane
Liver Sups
Lipoflame/Lipostim
Unleashed
Just so you know
-Legacy
RADAR
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Hell Yes,Just to prove a point ,that at a moderate dose it is not suppressive.
RADAR
RADAR
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Tomorrow training is going to be insane, pushing yourself beyond your limits pass failure is insanity.
As Arnold once said it"INSANITY IS THE MIND OVER MATTER< >IF YOU CAN"T USE YOUR MIND TO PUSH YOURSELF BEYOND YOUR LIMITS<>THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER"
Finis
RADAR
As Arnold once said it"INSANITY IS THE MIND OVER MATTER< >IF YOU CAN"T USE YOUR MIND TO PUSH YOURSELF BEYOND YOUR LIMITS<>THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER"
Finis
RADAR
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metalfujimi
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cant wait for those.
RADAR
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Gonna have it done before my summer cutter
so expect it in another week or two
RADAR
truckdaddy
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Its not suppressive at 150 ed, the vision sides are what would be the only issue.
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RADAR
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DJLegacy2k1
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That is technically correct, we are just running something called SARMS-s4
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metalfujimi
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so HGH + IGF1 = Sarms S4? Is that why it seems to have the healing and injury recovery benefits?
DJLegacy2k1
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No they arent the same THING, they are basically in the same class of substances though.
Sarms-s4 is more being tested as a replacement to Test injections for HRT.
-Legacy
Sarms-s4 is more being tested as a replacement to Test injections for HRT.
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metalfujimi
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got it.
JACK3DCOPPER
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RADAR, I might have missed this in an earlier post but did you experience the dramatic weight gains that are supposed to be associated with SARMS???
let me know. Im starting mine soon. same dosing proto as u. 5/2 @ 50.
let me know. Im starting mine soon. same dosing proto as u. 5/2 @ 50.
RADAR
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Weight gains are very gradual expect only a pound or two each week after a while it kind o levels off ,B ut! that doesn't mean it's not working...I gained another 2 pounds after 3 weeks of sarms. its a definete builder of deep sketelal muscle tissue.
RADAR
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