primobolan

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, what do you think about the longer (12+ weeks) Primo based cycles? Do you think the lack of sides would allow for a workable cycle (HPTA-wise) even at that length? How about you Needto? Swole?

Sure, if you're going to do longer cycles, primo is the way to go -- especially since the gains are slow. (Which is why it takes people so long to see results. But it shouldn't if training and diet are spot on).

Of course when I say I "notice" a difference, it isn;t dramatic, but I can tell if something is working. It's subtle, but you have to be attuned to it.

My concept of 4-6 week cycles is almost a thing in the past since the philosophy is based on supplementing natural training and avoiding HPTA damage. That doesn't seem to be a concern with most guys today. (Or, in some cases, people think that as long as they do PCT they'll be fine. There are no guarantees).

 

[Barch]

Avoiding HPTA damage is definitely a concern for me. I'm trying to figure what the best balance would be between a cycle as long as possible to optimize the time on cycle, while still being able to keep HTPA damage to a minimum... With something like 500mg/week of Primo, 200mg/week of Test, along with HCG/HMG and a proper PCT, what do you think a long, but within reason, cycle would be?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Avoiding HPTA damage is definitely a concern for me. I'm trying to figure what the best balance would be between a cycle as long as possible to optimize the time on cycle, while still being able to keep HTPA damage to a minimum... With something like 500mg/week of Primo, 200mg/week of Test, along with HCG/HMG and a proper PCT, what do you think a long, but within reason, cycle would be?

6 weeks on, 12 weeks off, repeat. Train hard in-between cycles. In a year or 2 you can transform your physique. It's a process. Or...if you want to blow up fast use anadrol and test and gain 20 pounds in a month, piss twice and lose it all. It's up to you.

 

[Barch]

Nelson, as always, I appreciate your input. Originally, I was thinking about doing a 6 weeker, but since so many folks seem to promote the need for longer cycles with Primo...

 

[Barch]

Any of the other Primo gurus (Needto, Swole?) want to chime in about running longer cycles?

 

[79steeler]

I ran it 16 weeks at 500mg/wk and 500mg/wk test e. Probably my favorite cycle so far. It made for lean quality gains, in other words my physique had an attractive quality to it. Hard to explain, but you will know what I mean when your finished. I gained a good amount of mass, while actually dropping some bodyfat. I will definately do it again. I just hate the cost.

 

[perryscoon]

How does it work with tren? I was thinking:

test 500mg EW 20 weeks
primo 500mg EW 16 weeks
tren 200mg EW 12 weeks

 

[Nelson Montana]

How does it work with tren? I was thinking:

test 500mg EW 20 weeks
primo 500mg EW 16 weeks
tren 200mg EW 12 weeks

I'm sure it'll work great. Why not? But it's kind of a waste with tren. Primo gives lean gains with little sides. A fav among the health conscious. (Like me). Tren actually burns fat but gives lots of sides. It is not a very healthy choice. So , if you're going to do Tren, why spend all that money on something mild that you don't need? It's like having an expensive light beer with your cheap double martini. Go one way or the other IMO.

 

[perryscoon]

I'm sure it'll work great. Why not? But it's kind of a waste with tren. Primo gives lean gains with little sides. A fav among the health conscious. (Like me). Tren actually burns fat but gives lots of sides. It is not a very healthy choice. So , if you're going to do Tren, why spend all that money on something mild that you don't need? It's like having an expensive light beer with your cheap double martini. Go one way or the other IMO.

Hmmm interesting. Well honestly I love the way tren makes me feel. I will even run it at a very low dose just for the added "feel good" I get from it. I've run it for 16 weeks at 50mg EoD with excellent results. I've never tried primo so I was thinking I'd give it a go this time around. But, I'll think about what you said and see what I can come up with.

Thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

Hmmm interesting. Well honestly I love the way tren makes me feel. I will even run it at a very low dose just for the added "feel good" I get from it. I've run it for 16 weeks at 50mg EoD with excellent results. I've never tried primo so I was thinking I'd give it a go this time around. But, I'll think about what you said and see what I can come up with.

Thanks

Tren hypes the metabolism. For some, that means anxiety, night sweats, insomnia etc. For others, it's boundless energy. If it's working for you, go with it. Keep an eye on the BP though.