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WTF do you mean YOU PEOPLE? Nelson says he feels the effects of primo seconds after injecting it he feels sub human =)
 
yes.primo need to be taken for minimum 10 weeks at minimum 500mg week....but if you got real human schering,you can start to feel it in 2-3 weeks already! good pump
 
I'm in my 5th week of a 16 week primo + hgh cycle. I've been only taking 2 shots/week (legit Schering primo from Turkey) will go for EOD next week. If you've got legit Primo you'll feel that something is going on just after a couple of weeks but you shouldn't expect the kind of kick you would get from test or stronger AAS. In fact primo + hgh has a nice round 'all natural' feeling whilst workouts are better, recovery time faster, you get better pumps etc, etc... Good stuff!
 
WTF do you mean YOU PEOPLE? Nelson says he feels the effects of primo seconds after injecting it he feels sub human =)

SECONDS? Actually, if you're really attuned to the effects you can feel an oral within 20 minutes. Most injectables start to show some effect in me in about a week. I don't think it should take a month to see and feel effects.
 
now ive seen you different types of primo tho. Depot and acetate.
Depot i think is the long ester one, where you need to take 3 weeks to see results, ive tried this, liked it very much.
Wut ab out primo Acetate (or whatever the short acting ester is called, not the pill form), how long for the short ester to feel the the effects? certainly not 3 weeks?>
 
3-4 weeks on primo enan for visual results
 
Nelson, what do you think about the longer (12+ weeks) Primo based cycles? Do you think the lack of sides would allow for a workable cycle (HPTA-wise) even at that length? How about you Needto? Swole?
 
Nelson, what do you think about the longer (12+ weeks) Primo based cycles? Do you think the lack of sides would allow for a workable cycle (HPTA-wise) even at that length? How about you Needto? Swole?

Sure, if you're going to do longer cycles, primo is the way to go -- especially since the gains are slow. (Which is why it takes people so long to see results. But it shouldn't if training and diet are spot on).

Of course when I say I "notice" a difference, it isn;t dramatic, but I can tell if something is working. It's subtle, but you have to be attuned to it.

My concept of 4-6 week cycles is almost a thing in the past since the philosophy is based on supplementing natural training and avoiding HPTA damage. That doesn't seem to be a concern with most guys today. (Or, in some cases, people think that as long as they do PCT they'll be fine. There are no guarantees).
 
Avoiding HPTA damage is definitely a concern for me. I'm trying to figure what the best balance would be between a cycle as long as possible to optimize the time on cycle, while still being able to keep HTPA damage to a minimum... With something like 500mg/week of Primo, 200mg/week of Test, along with HCG/HMG and a proper PCT, what do you think a long, but within reason, cycle would be?
 
Avoiding HPTA damage is definitely a concern for me. I'm trying to figure what the best balance would be between a cycle as long as possible to optimize the time on cycle, while still being able to keep HTPA damage to a minimum... With something like 500mg/week of Primo, 200mg/week of Test, along with HCG/HMG and a proper PCT, what do you think a long, but within reason, cycle would be?


6 weeks on, 12 weeks off, repeat. Train hard in-between cycles. In a year or 2 you can transform your physique. It's a process. Or...if you want to blow up fast use anadrol and test and gain 20 pounds in a month, piss twice and lose it all. It's up to you.
 
Nelson, as always, I appreciate your input. Originally, I was thinking about doing a 6 weeker, but since so many folks seem to promote the need for longer cycles with Primo...
 
I ran it 16 weeks at 500mg/wk and 500mg/wk test e. Probably my favorite cycle so far. It made for lean quality gains, in other words my physique had an attractive quality to it. Hard to explain, but you will know what I mean when your finished. I gained a good amount of mass, while actually dropping some bodyfat. I will definately do it again. I just hate the cost.
 
How does it work with tren? I was thinking:

test 500mg EW 20 weeks
primo 500mg EW 16 weeks
tren 200mg EW 12 weeks
 
How does it work with tren? I was thinking:

test 500mg EW 20 weeks
primo 500mg EW 16 weeks
tren 200mg EW 12 weeks

I'm sure it'll work great. Why not? But it's kind of a waste with tren. Primo gives lean gains with little sides. A fav among the health conscious. (Like me). Tren actually burns fat but gives lots of sides. It is not a very healthy choice. So , if you're going to do Tren, why spend all that money on something mild that you don't need? It's like having an expensive light beer with your cheap double martini. Go one way or the other IMO.
 
I'm sure it'll work great. Why not? But it's kind of a waste with tren. Primo gives lean gains with little sides. A fav among the health conscious. (Like me). Tren actually burns fat but gives lots of sides. It is not a very healthy choice. So , if you're going to do Tren, why spend all that money on something mild that you don't need? It's like having an expensive light beer with your cheap double martini. Go one way or the other IMO.

Hmmm interesting. Well honestly I love the way tren makes me feel. I will even run it at a very low dose just for the added "feel good" I get from it. I've run it for 16 weeks at 50mg EoD with excellent results. I've never tried primo so I was thinking I'd give it a go this time around. But, I'll think about what you said and see what I can come up with.

Thanks
 
Hmmm interesting. Well honestly I love the way tren makes me feel. I will even run it at a very low dose just for the added "feel good" I get from it. I've run it for 16 weeks at 50mg EoD with excellent results. I've never tried primo so I was thinking I'd give it a go this time around. But, I'll think about what you said and see what I can come up with.

Thanks

Tren hypes the metabolism. For some, that means anxiety, night sweats, insomnia etc. For others, it's boundless energy. If it's working for you, go with it. Keep an eye on the BP though.
 
I'm sure it'll work great. Why not? But it's kind of a waste with tren. Primo gives lean gains with little sides. A fav among the health conscious. (Like me). Tren actually burns fat but gives lots of sides. It is not a very healthy choice. So , if you're going to do Tren, why spend all that money on something mild that you don't need? It's like having an expensive light beer with your cheap double martini. Go one way or the other IMO.

Excellent post, Nelson. You hit the nail right on the head and a great analogy.
 
I think its funny how the steroids that give the most gains are the cheapest and vice versa.


tren = cheap as hell
var/primo = expensive as hell

I'm guessing its simply because the low side effect roids are the most in demand.
 
I think its funny how the steroids that give the most gains are the cheapest and vice versa.


tren = cheap as hell
var/primo = expensive as hell

I'm guessing its simply because the low side effect roids are the most in demand.


Chivas Regal cost more than huffing glue.
 
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