Test/Winny Vs. Test/Var

[wrestletib]

alright, as the title says it, i am not sure which route to go...

I have ran all types of Test,and other steroids... but never winny nor Anavar...

between Winny and Var... is Var really worth the price over Winny?

Which cycle would you go with, and why. What would it look like?


edit: this would be my 4th real cycle.


i am 5'8 @ 190 pounds ~12 BF

currently looking a bit soft in my core, like im holding water.... and my goal is to gain lean mass.

 

[layinback]

alright, as the title says it, i am not sure which route to go...

I have ran all types of Test,and other steroids... but never winny nor Anavar...

between Winny and Var... is Var really worth the price over Winny?

Which cycle would you go with, and why. What would it look like?


edit: this would be my 4th real cycle.


i am 5'8 @ 190 pounds ~12 BF

currently looking a bit soft in my core, like im holding water.... and my goal is to gain lean mass.

test \ var. hands down.

better yet, test \ var \ tren.

 

[layinback]

btw, winstrol is not an option if you can get trenbolone and or oxandrolone.

oxandrolone and trenbolone will burn visceral fat, winstrol will not.

 

[EZ_E]

test \ var. hands down.

better yet, test \ var \ tren.

+1, just finished this cycle and never looked better.

All depends on goals, stats, training, diet, etc. though

 

[al420]

Winstrol is garbage compared to var.

And I agree with adding tren for your goals.... but I think tren goes well with everything INCLUDING deca

 

[V-Machine]

What he said.

test \ var. hands down.

better yet, test \ var \ tren.

 

[oxymoron]

oxandrolone and trenbolone will burn visceral fat, winstrol will not.

i never knew that... that's a really healthy benefit over winny. thx layin

 

[deezy1225]

btw, winstrol is not an option if you can get trenbolone and or oxandrolone.

oxandrolone and trenbolone will burn visceral fat, winstrol will not.

good to know !

 

[wrestletib]

no tren.


also, what dose should i be running it. it is my first time with this drug. However i dont want to gimp out and do a low dose.


edit: i dont see how the rewards from this drug justify its price

 

[layinback]

no tren.


also, what dose should i be running it. it is my first time with this drug. However i dont want to gimp out and do a low dose.


edit: i dont see how the rewards from this drug justify its price

well, if you got to ask the price of something you usually can't afford it.

people are always going on and on about the price of primobolan and

anavar. are these expensive drugs? yep. relative to dianabol and testosterone,

these drugs are expensive. D'bol, test, anadrol and deca are sledgehammers

and sledgehammers have their place. var and primo are scalpels. scalpels

are more expensive than hammers.

 

[wrestletib]

[/SIZE]

well, if you got to ask the price of something you usually can't afford it.

people are always going on and on about the price of primobolan and

anavar. are these expensive drugs? yep. relative to dianabol and testosterone,

these drugs are expensive. D'bol, test, anadrol and deca are sledgehammers

and sledgehammers have their place. var and primo are scalpels. scalpels

are more expensive than hammers.

i can afford it, im just saying is it worth it , or should i replace anavar with like Eq possibly.

 

[layinback]

i can afford it, im just saying is it worth it , or should i replace anavar with like Eq possibly.

it's a matter of what you are trying to accomplish.

in general oxandrolone will burn trunk fat, increase strength and add a little
lean mass. the gains are small but very easy to maintain. the fat loss is
permanent with no rebound.

EQ will give you some lean mass gains, strength and a hard dry look like
ox. it doesn't have the unique quality to burn visceral fat that ox has.

objectively, EQ is more bang for the buck if you're not looking for fat loss.

 

[wrestletib]

so how would this sound

+ test C or E at 500mg EW for 10 WKS
+ EQ at 600mg for 10 weeks


nolva 40/40/30/20
HCG as well

never ran EQ either...


edit: i just did some research, seems that most the bros on here agree that EQ should be ran for minimun of 12 weeks... and keep test higher.



so what about Test E @ 500mg for 20 weeks...
EQ at 400mg for 15 weeks.


can anyone help set up this cycle with me?

 

[daveyboy2345]

Test 500mgs weeks 1-16
EQ 6000mg weeks 1-14

not necessary to have test higher than eq, the effects of just 400 mgs of test would still be more pronounced than 600 mgs EQ.

No oral or test prop for the first 4 weeks as a jumpstart?

 

[wrestletib]

Test 500mgs weeks 1-16
EQ 6000mg weeks 1-14

not necessary to have test higher than eq, the effects of just 400 mgs of test would still be more pronounced than 600 mgs EQ.

No oral or test prop for the first 4 weeks as a jumpstart?

I have a bottle of monsterdrol sitting here... i could use that... for 4 weeks..

 

[layinback]

daveyboy has the right idea and i'll give you my take and the rationale behind it.

test c or e 400 mg's wk 1-10

EQ 400 mg's wk 1-10

pct clomid 50 mg's 4 weeks starting 10 days after last injection.

you will benefit from the shorter duration of EQ if you are training and eating properly.
running 400 mg's of test will minimize sides and when coupled with 400 mg's of EQ, you'll grow, lean
up or whatever your goals are. ( relative to diet )

keeping the cycle at 10 weeks will minimize the "crash" and if you play your PCT right, most of the gains
will be keep-able.

 

[gator_mclusky]

I've been stacking Test and Winstrol for yrs. Love the combo.

Both Anavar and Winstrol are great compounds.

 

[gatorgolfer]

Iv never stacked 2 injectables. Im going to stack a test and anavar. I usually take two cc's of test a week. How is the best way to imcorporate two cc's of anavar? Least amount of shots is best.

 

[Nomak666]

Iv never stacked 2 injectables. Im going to stack a test and anavar. I usually take two cc's of test a week. How is the best way to imcorporate two cc's of anavar? Least amount of shots is best.

Great first post! "how is the best way to incorporate two cc's of anavar?"

 

[theperfectdrug187]

test \ var. hands down.

better yet, test \ var \ tren.

Better yet.... test \ var \ tren \ PRIMO!

 

[the_alcatraz]

I would go with the test and var...not a big fan of stanazolol after the last time I used it

 

[gatorgolfer]

can anyone suggest the best way to inject 2 cc's test and 2 cc's of anavar per week? i usually do 1 cc shot of test only mon then thurs.

 

[mattu3743]

I've been stacking Test and Winstrol for yrs. Love the combo.

Both Anavar and Winstrol are great compounds.

crawfish sounds good right now

 

[atown777]

hey Gatorgolfer, I am taking 40mg of Anavar daily right now by itself. I have used Test, Winny, EQ, D-bol etc. so before anyone flames me for doing a "Var only Cycle" I have my reasons. I use Var strictly as a bodyfat reducer.

I have yet to come across Anavar that is injectable. Anavar is normally sold as 5mg or 10mg tabs or 20mg UGL caps or 2.5mg human pharm grade tabs. From personal experience I have found either the 2.5mg tabs or 5mg tabs to be the best. Most tabs labeled as 10mg or 20mg I find to be bullshit and a marketing gimmick. Just assume it contains 5mg per tab because it probably does.

Anyway, if you have any amount of fat on your stomach that you would like to lose I would say DEFINITELY go with the ANAVAR. This shit is awesome for blasting fat off the mid-section. Stack it at 40mg to 50mg daily with Test at 500mg weekly. Run the Var for as long as you can afford it up to 10 weeks. Most orals you would never want to run it this long but with Anavar it's OK as it is very mild on the system.

You need a proper diet though to see the results. Keep it super clean, eat your maintenance # of calories daily, and create a calorie deficit thru cardio and training.

Like I said, if fat loss is your goal Var wins hands down. If you just want to keep the water off and stay lean and hard while you are using test then I would go with the Winny.

I eat all my carbs before 2pm, drink 2 gallons of water daily and do at least an hour of cardio daily. Keep it to mostly protein and fats (good fats like flax seed, fish, avocados etc..) and you will see a serious reduction in bodyfat.

Anytime I come off a break and need to shed some pounds before doing a cycle I always use Var to lean up real nice first. But everyone will tell you to stack it with test. You dont have to. It depends on what your goals are. But more often than not a low dose to moderate dose of test should be used with Var for maximum results. Like I said, depends on what you are trying to do. Dont expect to gain any muscle using just var.

 

[needtogetaas]

Winstrol is garbage compared to var.

And I agree with adding tren for your goals.... but I think tren goes well with everything INCLUDING deca

Fuck ya.

 

[Stanston00]

is there a problem with taking test/winny/var instead of having to choose one?

 

[atown777]

most guys will tell you that taking winstrol and anavar together is overkill or too hard on the liver or a waste of money etc..

I can only speak from my own personal experience. I have personally found that test stacked with injectable winny and oral anavar (never seen anything but oral anavar) is a great combo for those just wishing to really harden up and get the abs coming thru. I loved it. Planning on this exact combo real soon. Low dose of test say around 400mgs stacked with winny 50mg daily stacked with var 40mg daily.

Worked great for my goals. You can add some real quality size. Not a ton. But quality and hard muscle. Thats the only kind im interested in anyway.

 

[ConanX]

most guys will tell you that taking winstrol and anavar together is overkill or too hard on the liver or a waste of money etc..

I can only speak from my own personal experience. I have personally found that test stacked with injectable winny and oral anavar (never seen anything but oral anavar) is a great combo for those just wishing to really harden up and get the abs coming thru. I loved it. Planning on this exact combo real soon. Low dose of test say around 400mgs stacked with winny 50mg daily stacked with var 40mg daily.

Worked great for my goals. You can add some real quality size. Not a ton. But quality and hard muscle. Thats the only kind im interested in anyway.

I planned my upcoming summer cycle to be Test E, Primo, Win, and Anavar, as well as throwing in some fat burners (clen, T3). I had the same question with Win vs Anavar. I figured both would do great, as Anavar will give that defined look and help with the mid section and winstrol will suck the water out of my whole body and also help with the hard, defined look. Primo should help with that look as well.

I was thinking 300mg Test E, 300mg Primo, Win is either going to be 50 or 75mg e/d, and I'm not sure on Anavar dosing yet but I'd like to do 50mg e/d but I'll up that if the results will be greater. If Anavar is THAT much better than Winstrol and Winstrol is uneccesary, then would dropping Win and maybe upping Anavar to 80mg e/d be better?

All help is GREATLY appreciated. Since these are some new compounds, PCT advice would be great as well.

Oh and Anavar works great. I went from having a pudgy stomach with barely any abdominals showing through, to a total 6-pack and side obliques. My chest and shoulders looked diced up too. Body got very hard and I looked pretty vascular. Great stuff. Can't say anything about winstrol as I've never tried it.

 

[KeepinMyGains]

+100000000000 on the var.

 

[hurricane]

test/var ... not a fan of winnny

 

[gatorgolfer]

Hey thanks atown. My source has only injectables right now and i thought he said he had anavar.ill double check. iv used winny but dont like the sore joints so i would like to try anavar. Bodyfat isnt an issue but summer is coming and i would like to be as cut as possible.