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Who all has ran a gram of test and how did you like it?

wouldnt more test = more fatburning turbo chnarge metabolism, and more defiantion ,

when it comes to recomposition im not noticing a difference in 1000mg, 750mg, 500mg or even 300mg (of Prop). I don't know why but it may have to do with receptors?

throw in some tren of dnp and it gets drastic..but we know why at that point :D
 
wouldnt more test = more fatburning turbo chnarge metabolism, and more defiantion ,


Just something to ponder...

If an increase in test did all this relative to the ratio of increase to standard base line (i.e. test goes up... baseline of the above factors go up...)

Wouldn't you eventually reach a point where you were running a 105 degree fever? How much of this anabolic would you have to take before it actually became catabolic to the entire environment.

Rhetorically talking here.
 
1 gram of Test Enathate and it was the best cycle of my life. The only thing I changed was uping my daily dose of Finasteride from 1.25mgs to 2.5 mgs.
 
AAP, A bit off topic, but how much fat do you consume while eating low carb? Ive been having either 2 TBSP ANPB or 2grams of Fish oil with every non-carb meal.
 
Also, I would like to clarify something that someone brought up to me in PMs.

Those of you who are Plat members (thank you) who have done searches back around 2002 and earlier will no doubt see that our old members back there were pretty much doing high test cycles.

(those of you who aren't Plat should join just for this feature because there is some AWESOME reading from those times.)

But two of the reasons that they were doing high test back then is because :

#1 They didn't know any better. After all, pros were pros because they used more AAS than anyone else right? Isn't that what we were all taught?

#2 There was not many other compounds to choose from to mix with it. Primobolan was scarce, expensive as hell, and not something most people had a chance to expirament with. Masteron, parabolan (tren Hex), Tren Enan, NPP, etc.. were not to be found. That left a few things you could use.

EQ - which was mostly 50mg per ml. Or if you were lucky, 100mg. Too high volume of oil and injects needed. Imagine doing 12ccs of this just to get the standard 600mg dose nowdays.

Deca - love it or loath it. Seemed like most people with girls in their lives loathed it.

Winstrol - sore joints and hair loss scared most people away.

Tren Acetate - but people never really ran this the duration of their cycles.

what else? Just orals. Nothing else really. So high test is what most people ran because the options were limited.

Nowdays we have learned the difference in that line of thinking. (along with having more choices of things to include) However is that saying everyone should stay away from a gram of test weekly. No.

Personally, I think you should try it at least once. 10 weeks. 1 gram weekly.

However I must stress that before this and after this you keep accurate detail information. Blood work and all. I am amazed that the people that carry a log book and write down their set and reps and then never pay attention to diet or their lab results. it seems like the notebook never leaves their gym bag when they go home.

If you wanted to expirement with this and see what happens to YOU because everyone is different, I would advise you to first get your body primed for it.

Have blood work done. Full spectrum. Lipids, free test, chlosterol, anything you can think of.

Now for the next six weeks, this is going to be the phase that you are going to use to prime your body and get it ready for anabolic use. Sounds stupid you should have to prime yourself for this. But no. It isn't.

Light weight workouts 4x a week. Cardio of most importance. High protein, moderate fats, moderate good carbs. 6 weeks. You are basically cleaning out the system and waking up and rejuvenating the mind for the task that lies ahead. And most importantly give your body - joints, muscles and CNS - a chance to rest up and recovery from all it has been going through up to this point.
Six weeks of this.

Then another round of blood work. You got health insurance. Use it. Stop complaining and procrastinating. You would really be surprised at what a difference a clean diet and manageable stress/recovery levels will do to improve your body.


Then 1 gram test weekly for the duration. I would personally just stick with Enan. You don't need any other anabolic. No jump starting. No "adding". Just a completely honest evaluation of what this does to you. No anti-E or AIs either. Unless you are getting gyno and in that case, you cease use and implement preventive action. Otherwise you want to see what this level of test will do for you with nothing else thrown in the mix.
Continue with the diet and cardio listed above. But a bit more overall protein and calories. After all you need the cardio to keep the metabolism stoked to process those calories you are feeding it that it needs to grow. And don't give me this shit about too much cardio being bad for you. fuck you are on one gram of test. You ain't losing muscle because of some cardio.

After this cycle reaches it's conclusion - blood work again. What? Thought I would skip that? Hell no. Don't roll your eyes at me and act lazy. Get your meathead ass down to Quest or somewhere and have it done. Blood work is cheaper than AAS compounds and 3 days of food. So no excuses why you shouldn't be having this done regularly, cycles or not.

Post cycle for another six weeks, go back to your precycle prep phase and continue there, but with a higher intensity of training effort.

After these six weeks is up... blood work again. if you have to copay $50 for blood work, well four tests will cost $200. Is $200 too much to find out now what is going on inside you? You can't see that in the mirror.

Again, this is just how I would use 1 gram test weekly if I were going to do it again. But I already have tried it. I didn't do it this way because at the time I didn't think about it. (though still had the blood work done). I didn't have someone on the board to suggest this to me and map out a plan to see what really happens to MY body when I go from Point A to Point B.

The reason no one mentioned this is because lazy ass posters on the board nowdays never seem to type more than 2 sentences.

So a short recap :

1 - 1 gram of test weekly is not for everyone but you can't determine it is or not for YOU without and honest evaluation.

2 - Bloodwork is the most important thing you can do for yourself. Ever.

3 - AAP makes spelling mistakes when he types this much.

My Plat just expired. They should pay you for these posts dude. Excellent information.
 
Most people think the bigger you are the more you need. But that isn't true.

I was around 252-260 that cycle and could have gotten the same benefits from half the dose. The key word here is BENEFITS.

This is going to sound retarded for most people, but I think that the people that need high doses are the people with low bodyfat %. If you are 18%+ BF, you don't need that much of a dose because you are going to hold water like the Titanic. But then you take AIs to fight the bloat (which isn't what they were intended for) and then you usually try something else and fuck up the whole point of the cycle which is potential gains.

Roids only give you MORE OF THE SAME. Whatever you got, you get more of. Now someone with 7% bodyfat can handle 1 gram of test weekly because they are (at least they should be) packing down the protein and calories. YOU NEED PROTEIN. How do roid molecules travel in the body? By attaching to binding protein molecules. So it makes sense to use the high doses when you are eating like crazy and bulking right? Not when you are on a calorie stricted diet.

So why would you be bulking and eating like crazy if you are already overweight? That makes no sense.

People get caught up in this tunnel vision with their "goals" which turn out to be nothing more than fucking HABITS. Big difference. Always bulking, always trying to grow, always wanting the scale (and bar weight) numbers to go up. Why? 99% of the people on this board will never even compete in a national show. And the vast majority of that number shouldn't try either.

Roids are about body ENHANCEMENT. Call me crazy, but adding 15lbs of water with an increase of 4% BF is NOT an enhancement. WHEN YOU ARE ALREADY OVERWEIGHT TO BEGIN WITH. Bros come on here and take their body type and structure in the complete opposite direction of what will make them look good. What looks better? The guy on the cover of Flex Magazine year around and not just 1 week per year for his show or the guy on the cover of Mens Health who looks that way year around. Yeah go ahead and be macho and talk about how the Mens Health guy looks like a fag and everyone is bigger than he is. (as if. especially on this board.)

If you can't possibly become a top level bodybuilder, you shouldn't be attempting doses like this. And if you can become a top level bodybuilder you would already know it. None of this "after this cycle I am really going to look good." Your ass would already look good before you do the cycle.

Hate to rant, but I see guys come on here and do stuff that makes me wonder what shape they are going to be in when they turn 40. Edema, bloat, etc.. that only contributes to health problems later on.

This is your body. You only get one. Fuck it up how you wish but later on you are going to look back and see other people doing the exact same thing you did and go "wtf are they doing?"

wow, great post mate. sweet
 
My last cycle was:

1-12 Test E 1500mgs
1-10 Deca 600mgs

My strength gains went threw the roof and gained 20 pounds(15 after cycle) and went from 230 to 250, now at 245 10%bf

If my plan was to get jacked around 300lbs I would keep doing this. I would rather cut down to 230 @ 6% bf.
 
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