More Growth Than You'd Get On Steroids

[Cardinal Slin]

I see a lot of posts about gaining weight and getting bigger and I'd say 9 times out 10 the person asking can gain more naturally than with drugs.

Sir, you know better than that.

You have just called out 9 out of 10 posters on this board.

This board would not be here if only true 'needers' used aas.

Why would people wait for a year to gain 10lbs of muscle the hard way when they can just throw some dbol in there for 4 wks and gain 20lbs.

This is what society has turned in to.

Quicker, more, faster, bigger.

That's what the world is about nowadays.

 

[dabuffguy]

Sir, you know better than that.

You have just called out 9 out of 10 posters on this board.

This board would not be here if only true 'needers' used aas.

Why would people wait for a year to gain 10lbs of muscle the hard way when they can just throw some dbol in there for 4 wks and gain 20lbs.

This is what society has turned in to.

Quicker, more, faster, bigger.

That's what the world is about nowadays.

I don't think Nelson meant any disrespect here. I fall under this category of the 9/10. Everyone here does basically. No big deal.

 

[Cardinal Slin]

I don't think Nelson meant any disrespect here. I fall under this category of the 9/10. Everyone here does basically. No big deal.

I know bro and didnt think he meant any disrespect.

Just stating that his callout is not going to solve anything

 

[dabuffguy]

I know bro and didnt think he meant any disrespect.

Just stating that his callout is not going to solve anything

No, it won't. But atleast he went on to give some insight and ideas on how people can improve.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Sir, you know better than that.


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BETTER THAN WHAT? I STAND BY WHAT I SAID.


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You have just called out 9 out of 10 posters on this board.

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FIGURE OF SPEECH BRO. BUT YEAH, A LOT OF GUYS GET IT WRONG.



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This board would not be here if only true 'needers' used aas.


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DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE BETTER WAYS AND WORSE WAYS OF DOING THINGS.



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Why would people wait for a year to gain 10lbs of muscle the hard way when they can just throw some dbol in there for 4 wks and gain 20lbs.

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UMM, BECAUSE THE 10 POUNDS YOU GAIN NATURALLY OVER A YEAR YOU KEEP AND THE QUICK 20 YOU GET FROM THE DBOL IS LOST JUST AS FAST? AND CAN CAUSE BAD SIDE EFFECTS? THAT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

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This is what society has turned in to.

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SO THAT MEANS IT'S BETTER?



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Quicker, more, faster, bigger.

That's what the world is about nowadays.
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THE LOSSES ARE ALSO QUICKER AND FASTER. AND THE SIDES ARE BIGGER. YOU SEEM TO BE SUGGESTING THE END RESULTS ARE THE SAME WITH OR WITHOUT DRUGS OR HOW THEY'RE USE, AND THEY ARE NOT.

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[dabuffguy]

Can we avoid the pissing contests please?

thx

 

[Cardinal Slin]

why? my willy is thinner so it has more power and i can piss further...

I enjoy Nelson's threads

He is a good bro

 

[Nelson Montana]

Can we avoid the pissing contests please?

thx

Nah, no personal insults were thrown on either side. Everyone has a right to disagree.

 

[EPROM]

..UMM, BECAUSE THE 10 POUNDS YOU GAIN NATURALLY OVER A YEAR YOU KEEP AND THE QUICK 20 YOU GET FROM THE DBOL IS LOST JUST AS FAST

First off, NM makes good points, but I don't fully understand this "loss of gains" concept.

I constantly read that if you regulate dosage, use AI's for sides/onsets and use proper PCT ...that you should be able to KEEP most of your gains. ...HOW MANY TIMES has this been written before??????????

Now here we go again. If you gain muscle mass fast from Dbol you're going to lose it just as fast?

If this is the case, why would anyone choose to use Dbol or any other fast acting steroid? If the only time you get to have any mass is while you are on ...then it's a waste of time and money ...because YOU CAN'T STAY ON IT ALL THE TIME!

But at the same time there are countless people who post all the time how they KEPT their gains through proper PCT.

So which is it? Do you keep you damnd gains ..or NOT??? ....Is there a consensus or not???????

Birdman

(Note: Attitude suffering from current testosterone spike)

 

[sweed]

Yes another great post. Fats --> Cholesterol---> Testosterone. I am glad I learned this years ago. Fat is essential. I have my essential fats everyday! I love coming back after not training for a few years and see a ton of results from a great diet plan and training program in a short amount of time.
I would love to jump into my 2nd cycle right now. I was going to start in September, but I wasn't ready. I was going to start one in January, but I may not start then since I want to train a little more and be happy with where I am physically with training hard and eating right (well mostly right, we need that cheat meal! ). I do have a nice little cycle once I am ready
I am cutting btw, and I still have my fats. Just not cream and butter like the guys that are bulking.