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needtogetaas
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I would run a bottle of sustain alpha right after this cycle. Throw
in some unleashed and also a topical fat burner to.
Probably gonna try out some monsterdrol/cyclotren and see how it runs, pick up some liver pills to run with it, then maybe try some PCT with unleashed/post cycle/sustain, maybe a little clomid if I'm feeling shut down.
Any recommendations on a topical fat burner? Never really read much into them, as I'm not entirely sure how they work/if they work.
Any recommendations on a topical fat burner? Never really read much into them, as I'm not entirely sure how they work/if they work.
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Go with one of our sponsors or check under our Post Cycle Therapy section of the page.there is many combinations of solid PCT products in stacks there.
I would run a bottle of sustain alpha right after this cycle. Throw
in some unleashed and also a topical fat burner to.
I was also interested in what you were referring to here needto...eny exps. of topical fat burners, pr would a str8 OTC one (Lipoflame, etc.) or ECA work?
New PR on Monsterdrol!
8th day on Monsterdrol, I benched 415 lbs unassisted
My last bench was 405 lbs.
I'm fuckin pumped, vascular, and strong as fuck.
Discuss.
8th day on Monsterdrol, I benched 415 lbs unassisted
My last bench was 405 lbs.
I'm fuckin pumped, vascular, and strong as fuck.
Discuss.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Fuck yeah traz. I bet thats nasty. I am up to the 225+ club so im stoked
Cyclotren/havoc are nasty. months from now ill have to stock up on a monsterdrol bottle or two
Fuck yeah traz. I bet thats nasty. I am up to the 225+ club so im stoked
Cyclotren/havoc are nasty. months from now ill have to stock up on a monsterdrol bottle or two
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
still on 3 caps a day. Will jump on 4 caps a day next week.
still on 3 caps a day. Will jump on 4 caps a day next week.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Great stack together.
Talk to JAM. He'll hook you up with his cycle support supplement, fot liver protection.
Great stack together.
Talk to JAM. He'll hook you up with his cycle support supplement, fot liver protection.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
i finished a-bombs 9 weeks ago...started mnsterdrol right after a-bombs...4 weeks of abombs followed by 4 weeks of monsterdrol...going to go into PCT right after
i finished a-bombs 9 weeks ago...started mnsterdrol right after a-bombs...4 weeks of abombs followed by 4 weeks of monsterdrol...going to go into PCT right after
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
what..................that makes 0 since on a timeline?
what..................that makes 0 since on a timeline?
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
lol
he's running 4 weeks a-bombs, then 4 weeks monsterdrol, pct, then 4 weeks abombs, pct, abombs, pct.
I'm almost finished up with my abombs
4 weeks ago my bench was 1 rep max 295, now I do 5 sets of 5 with 295. lol.
lol
he's running 4 weeks a-bombs, then 4 weeks monsterdrol, pct, then 4 weeks abombs, pct, abombs, pct.
I'm almost finished up with my abombs
4 weeks ago my bench was 1 rep max 295, now I do 5 sets of 5 with 295. lol.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Exactly. I'm running 4 weeks ON and 4 weeks OFF / PCT.
Going to do that for 6 months. Every 3 month ON, I add test cyp.
Exactly. I'm running 4 weeks ON and 4 weeks OFF / PCT.
Going to do that for 6 months. Every 3 month ON, I add test cyp.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
lol, that is why i was like WTFBBQ. makes more since knowing 9days not weeks
lol, that is why i was like WTFBBQ. makes more since knowing 9days not weeks
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
That's sick bro!!!
That's sick bro!!!
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
lol...oh well!
I remember someone telling me 2 weeks ago in AA that he'd hit a plateau and he didn't think he could break it.
fuckin a!
lol...oh well!
Black Boxster
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
I cycled Monsterdrol and Dermacrine...I had HUGE strength increases to the point some people thought I was BSing....I only did a 4 week cycle...3 a day...I'm supper anal about keeping a training log....Every set I look at my previous week and try to beat either weight or reps....after warm up I always begin with the heaviest weight I used for my last set.....every week I always added weight to every movement...some movements huge increases......Bench, Inclines, Rows, Leg presses, Squats...actual increased strength almost to the point of scaring myself alittle...concerned over injury due to my past ( have torn both distal tendons/Biceps)...
Alc..not suprised at bro......great job!!!
I cycled Monsterdrol and Dermacrine...I had HUGE strength increases to the point some people thought I was BSing....I only did a 4 week cycle...3 a day...I'm supper anal about keeping a training log....Every set I look at my previous week and try to beat either weight or reps....after warm up I always begin with the heaviest weight I used for my last set.....every week I always added weight to every movement...some movements huge increases......Bench, Inclines, Rows, Leg presses, Squats...actual increased strength almost to the point of scaring myself alittle...concerned over injury due to my past ( have torn both distal tendons/Biceps)...
Alc..not suprised at bro......great job!!!
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Evey one loves wtfbbqover.
Guys pm me for a discount on any products from jam. Monsterdrol will be running out soon though.
Evey one loves wtfbbqover.
Guys pm me for a discount on any products from jam. Monsterdrol will be running out soon though.
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Monsterdrol is some sick fucking shit man. I am on test/primo/mast and I just said fuck it today. I am going back on the monsterdrol too. Going to do another 4-6 week run.
Monsterdrol is some sick fucking shit man. I am on test/primo/mast and I just said fuck it today. I am going back on the monsterdrol too. Going to do another 4-6 week run.
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
I got all sorts of things up my sleeve.
*cough* and down my pants *cough*
lol.
I got all sorts of things up my sleeve.
*cough* and down my pants *cough*
lol.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
6 pills is too much. I'm on 4 pills a day and seeing enough strength lol
6 pills is too much. I'm on 4 pills a day and seeing enough strength lol
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
I just finished two weeks with 3 pills a day. Now I started week 3 with 4 pills a day.
I haven't lost any weight once I switched from anadrol into monsterdrol...my strength kept going up
I just finished two weeks with 3 pills a day. Now I started week 3 with 4 pills a day.
I haven't lost any weight once I switched from anadrol into monsterdrol...my strength kept going up
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
It's only 30mg. Surely it couldn't be "more" than the 100mg of greenies you were on.
But, less can be more sometimes. If it is working, don't try and fix it.
Lol @ me tempting you.
"alcatraz, this is God. Take more monsterdrol!" hahahaha
It's only 30mg. Surely it couldn't be "more" than the 100mg of greenies you were on.
But, less can be more sometimes. If it is working, don't try and fix it.
Lol @ me tempting you.
"alcatraz, this is God. Take more monsterdrol!" hahahaha
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
20mg of monsterdrol actually compare in strength gains to 50 mgs anadrol. But tbh, once the anadrol dosage went to 100-150mgs, it's a nop competition.
Monsterdrol gives awesome vascularity, more than enough strength to lift very heavy and a pretty damn good pump.
20mg of monsterdrol actually compare in strength gains to 50 mgs anadrol. But tbh, once the anadrol dosage went to 100-150mgs, it's a nop competition.
Monsterdrol gives awesome vascularity, more than enough strength to lift very heavy and a pretty damn good pump.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
definitely potent stuff. People are still doubtful and skeptical about it for some reason. It is hardcore.
Honestly, I don't know how "the man" has let this one stay legal.
definitely potent stuff. People are still doubtful and skeptical about it for some reason. It is hardcore.
Honestly, I don't know how "the man" has let this one stay legal.
rediculus
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Ok so alc here's a question...would you say it's more toxic? if not then getting 3 bottles for a small price running 6 to8 tablets a day..or ramp up to 10 tablets still being only 50 mg of androgenic chemicals.....A bombs might take passengers seat to you...just saying...ramp up to sides then back off a pill..small tablets (5 mg being small in dose) makes it perfect for adjusting for maximum gains.
PS as a taxpayer "the man" researching the million different chemicals that can benefit human performance (buffed out soldiers isn't a bad thing) OR put the DEA to work snatching up tweekers and crystal meth dealers whom are the most lethal of all bastards in the world.
Ok so alc here's a question...would you say it's more toxic? if not then getting 3 bottles for a small price running 6 to8 tablets a day..or ramp up to 10 tablets still being only 50 mg of androgenic chemicals.....A bombs might take passengers seat to you...just saying...ramp up to sides then back off a pill..small tablets (5 mg being small in dose) makes it perfect for adjusting for maximum gains.
PS as a taxpayer "the man" researching the million different chemicals that can benefit human performance (buffed out soldiers isn't a bad thing) OR put the DEA to work snatching up tweekers and crystal meth dealers whom are the most lethal of all bastards in the world.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Bro it's methylate oral masteron = very toxic
Sadly, I can't take it forver lol...
Take it for 4-6 weeks then do PCT
Bro it's methylate oral masteron = very toxic
Sadly, I can't take it forver lol...
Take it for 4-6 weeks then do PCT
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
They are not tablets, they are capsules.
I have seen people on other boards, when I was doing some research on it, was using the original superdrol at 60mg daily and getting absolutely insane strength gains. But they also got some pretty nasty sides some of them.
They are not tablets, they are capsules.
I have seen people on other boards, when I was doing some research on it, was using the original superdrol at 60mg daily and getting absolutely insane strength gains. But they also got some pretty nasty sides some of them.
superclock
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
How well has the Monsterdrol done with bf% reduction and general recomp?
How well has the Monsterdrol done with bf% reduction and general recomp?
wwebound4life
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Whats the dose on monsterdrol per cap, 5 or 10mg??
The bottle I got from jam says 10mg. Is this accurate??
Whats the dose on monsterdrol per cap, 5 or 10mg??
The bottle I got from jam says 10mg. Is this accurate??
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
per cap is 5mg
one serving = 2 caps (10mg)
That's what the bottle says.
per cap is 5mg
one serving = 2 caps (10mg)
That's what the bottle says.
wwebound4life
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
What re you weighing these days bro?
I'm in at 226 (down from 228) up from 218 4 weeks ago. Gotta love drol and test. I didn't bloat much either. I'm off the drol now. It's already been 4 weeks.
Unfortunately my BF is about 13-14%. So a lean 215 would be my weight if I had decent definition.
My strength is way up. My max 4 weeks ago on bench was 295. Now I use it for my rep weight. Hahahahaha! Schwing! Now I get to cruise on 500 test and get on the monsterdrol in 4 weeks.
I'm gonna be looking stacked (compared to before) by the end of this cycle.
What re you weighing these days bro?
I'm in at 226 (down from 228) up from 218 4 weeks ago. Gotta love drol and test. I didn't bloat much either. I'm off the drol now. It's already been 4 weeks.
Unfortunately my BF is about 13-14%. So a lean 215 would be my weight if I had decent definition.
My strength is way up. My max 4 weeks ago on bench was 295. Now I use it for my rep weight. Hahahahaha! Schwing! Now I get to cruise on 500 test and get on the monsterdrol in 4 weeks.
I'm gonna be looking stacked (compared to before) by the end of this cycle.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
I'm 200 lbs bro...but I'm only 5'8" so I still look pretty big.
My BF% is about 12-13%
What re you weighing these days bro?
I'm in at 226 (down from 228) up from 218 4 weeks ago. Gotta love drol and test. I didn't bloat much either. I'm off the drol now. It's already been 4 weeks.
Unfortunately my BF is about 13-14%. So a lean 215 would be my weight if I had decent definition.
My strength is way up. My max 4 weeks ago on bench was 295. Now I use it for my rep weight. Hahahahaha! Schwing! Now I get to cruise on 500 test and get on the monsterdrol in 4 weeks.
I'm gonna be looking stacked (compared to before) by the end of this cycle.
I'm 200 lbs bro...but I'm only 5'8" so I still look pretty big.
My BF% is about 12-13%
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
5'8" 200 is solid bro.
I'd need to be about 235 to have a proportional build.
I'll get there.
5'8" 200 is solid bro.
I'd need to be about 235 to have a proportional build.
I'll get there.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
nicee bro...well fucknn donee..hows the weight gain..size?
nicee bro...well fucknn donee..hows the weight gain..size?
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
I ordered my Cyclobolan from JAM Saturday and got the three day shipping so it should be here by Wednesday...then I'm gunna order a bottle of CEL M-Drol and take 1 Cyclobolan on waking, one preworkout with an M-Drol capsule, and then another M-Drol capsule at night.
I think that puts me at 50 MGs of the good stuff a day right out of the gate...and I plan on ramping that up at some point. If you don't like me taking that high of a dosage I don't give a fuck. Just be happy there's someone out there stupid enough to let you see the results from it.
I ordered my Cyclobolan from JAM Saturday and got the three day shipping so it should be here by Wednesday...then I'm gunna order a bottle of CEL M-Drol and take 1 Cyclobolan on waking, one preworkout with an M-Drol capsule, and then another M-Drol capsule at night.
I think that puts me at 50 MGs of the good stuff a day right out of the gate...and I plan on ramping that up at some point. If you don't like me taking that high of a dosage I don't give a fuck. Just be happy there's someone out there stupid enough to let you see the results from it.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Make sure you run cycle support and liver supplements bro. I think you'll find that 50mg is more than plenty for you. You'll see dramatic gains at that dose.
And like we've been telling you. Get that diet solid bro. That's where the gains really come.
Make sure you run cycle support and liver supplements bro. I think you'll find that 50mg is more than plenty for you. You'll see dramatic gains at that dose.
And like we've been telling you. Get that diet solid bro. That's where the gains really come.
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
You know I fucking love the hulk. I love the label the bottle the pills. It all looks sick don't it.
I got the hook ups on jam products so pm me for discounts. I also have the inside scoop on the sickest prohormone designer steroid stack to ever hit the market.
Two sponsors will be teaming up to offer this stack and all I can say now is you can bet your fucking ass I will be the first one using it, and every one and there brother is going to want some of this shit when it comes out.
I got a fucking hard on just thinking about it.
You know I fucking love the hulk. I love the label the bottle the pills. It all looks sick don't it.
I got the hook ups on jam products so pm me for discounts. I also have the inside scoop on the sickest prohormone designer steroid stack to ever hit the market.
Two sponsors will be teaming up to offer this stack and all I can say now is you can bet your fucking ass I will be the first one using it, and every one and there brother is going to want some of this shit when it comes out.
I got a fucking hard on just thinking about it.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
I know what's going on here Needto. SB?! This thing Is gonna be sick. The strongest OTC product ever made!
I know what's going on here Needto. SB?! This thing Is gonna be sick. The strongest OTC product ever made!
DasWolf
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
What sides are being reported. Like I posted...Im clearing up some gyno issues. I think I remember it being said that it is possible that Monsterdrol...blocks estrogen?
So it wont flare up my gyno?
Ide still like to know the other sides.
Thanx Bros
What sides are being reported. Like I posted...Im clearing up some gyno issues. I think I remember it being said that it is possible that Monsterdrol...blocks estrogen?
So it wont flare up my gyno?
Ide still like to know the other sides.
Thanx Bros
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Yeah man it gets better every day...like last night for dinner I had a steak, a chicken breast, two eggs, and a bowl of Lucky Charms...yeah, the Lucky Charms...I know...but I love em.
Yeah man it gets better every day...like last night for dinner I had a steak, a chicken breast, two eggs, and a bowl of Lucky Charms...yeah, the Lucky Charms...I know...but I love em.
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cobracock1979
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
whwre a good place to order from?
whwre a good place to order from?
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Headaches, nasty back pumps, acne, lethargy(really tired feeling), one guy it gave him insomnia. Gastro-intestinal discomfort.
Some people say they got gyno from it, but that's not because of the superdrol. Could be a number of things.
Headaches, nasty back pumps, acne, lethargy(really tired feeling), one guy it gave him insomnia. Gastro-intestinal discomfort.
Some people say they got gyno from it, but that's not because of the superdrol. Could be a number of things.
cobracock1979
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needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
send me a pm. I will tell you the place and get you a discount.
send me a pm. I will tell you the place and get you a discount.
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Did you get some inside info our are you just thinking up the idea in your head bro?
Anyway yes it will more then likely stack up as one of the best otc's to ever hit the market. Combined with another sponsor to make a stack that will blow everything out of the water.
Did you get some inside info our are you just thinking up the idea in your head bro?
Anyway yes it will more then likely stack up as one of the best otc's to ever hit the market. Combined with another sponsor to make a stack that will blow everything out of the water.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Hmmm, it's underwraps bro. Needto will inform as much as he can as news comes about.
I know a little about it, and it's gonna be good.
Hmmm, it's underwraps bro. Needto will inform as much as he can as news comes about.
I know a little about it, and it's gonna be good.
Black Boxster
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
So is Monsterdrol running out or I'm I just reading it wrong???
If it is, I'm gonna stock up....I need to do a Big cycle with it in Jan or Feb.
My 4 Week Monster cycle kicked ass...would like to push it to six weeks, start of on 3 cap Week 1, then 4cap a day week 2-3; 5 Caps a day week 4; 6 caps a day weeks 5-6...just need to plan the rest of my cycle, get everything in order for PCT ..waiting to see how the cyclobolan is doing for others also
So is Monsterdrol running out or I'm I just reading it wrong???
If it is, I'm gonna stock up....I need to do a Big cycle with it in Jan or Feb.
My 4 Week Monster cycle kicked ass...would like to push it to six weeks, start of on 3 cap Week 1, then 4cap a day week 2-3; 5 Caps a day week 4; 6 caps a day weeks 5-6...just need to plan the rest of my cycle, get everything in order for PCT ..waiting to see how the cyclobolan is doing for others also
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
It is very likely that monsterdrol will be running out. The likelihood of getting more in stock after that is not to high do to the popularity of the ingredents in the product.
So is Monsterdrol running out or I'm I just reading it wrong???
If it is, I'm gonna stock up....I need to do a Big cycle with it in Jan or Feb.
My 4 Week Monster cycle kicked ass...would like to push it to six weeks, start of on 3 cap Week 1, then 4cap a day week 2-3; 5 Caps a day week 4; 6 caps a day weeks 5-6...just need to plan the rest of my cycle, get everything in order for PCT ..waiting to see how the cyclobolan is doing for others also
It is very likely that monsterdrol will be running out. The likelihood of getting more in stock after that is not to high do to the popularity of the ingredents in the product.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
That doesn't make sense at all. If it is extremely popular, and monsterdrol sells out, it only would make sense to get another batch made and sell those out too. I'm no business executive, but demand for such a product will be met with supply if someone is looking to make some $$$$$. JAM would be crazy not to get another run of monsterdrol out there unless his profit margin is not worth the time, which I can't imagine. Bulk hormones powders are not that expensive at all. A bottle comes with roughly 500mg of active substance. you can't tell me 500mg of the superdrol drug costs more than $17 (which would net a 100% profit, which is extremely high).
If I could spend 10 dollars to make 20 dollars, i'd do it as many times as possible. And it seems like that here JAM has many many opportunities to make that kind of margin.
That doesn't make sense at all. If it is extremely popular, and monsterdrol sells out, it only would make sense to get another batch made and sell those out too. I'm no business executive, but demand for such a product will be met with supply if someone is looking to make some $$$$$. JAM would be crazy not to get another run of monsterdrol out there unless his profit margin is not worth the time, which I can't imagine. Bulk hormones powders are not that expensive at all. A bottle comes with roughly 500mg of active substance. you can't tell me 500mg of the superdrol drug costs more than $17 (which would net a 100% profit, which is extremely high).
If I could spend 10 dollars to make 20 dollars, i'd do it as many times as possible. And it seems like that here JAM has many many opportunities to make that kind of margin.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Micro economics 101...supply & Demand
Higher demand leads to low supply
That doesn't make sense at all. If it is extremely popular, and monsterdrol sells out, it only would make sense to get another batch made and sell those out too. I'm no business executive, but demand for such a product will be met with supply if someone is looking to make some $$$$$. JAM would be crazy not to get another run of monsterdrol out there unless his profit margin is not worth the time, which I can't imagine. Bulk hormones powders are not that expensive at all. A bottle comes with roughly 500mg of active substance. you can't tell me 500mg of the superdrol drug costs more than $17 (which would net a 100% profit, which is extremely high).
If I could spend 10 dollars to make 20 dollars, i'd do it as many times as possible. And it seems like that here JAM has many many opportunities to make that kind of margin.
Micro economics 101...supply & Demand
Higher demand leads to low supply
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
the problem is raw ingredients are getting held up in customs when they come to the US due to all the new ban list. that is C.C. issues and about every other person who is using these raw ingredients for supps.
the problem is raw ingredients are getting held up in customs when they come to the US due to all the new ban list. that is C.C. issues and about every other person who is using these raw ingredients for supps.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
i believe some of the raw ingr. for superdrol clones is right in that gray area legal/illegal.
i believe some of the raw ingr. for superdrol clones is right in that gray area legal/illegal.
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
lotta grey area shiznit
lotta grey area shiznit
Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
it's next to impossible to get right now, even the places that usually get it to make "designer" steroids are having problems getting it.
it's next to impossible to get right now, even the places that usually get it to make "designer" steroids are having problems getting it.
needtogetaas
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Re: New PR on Monsterdrol!
Bro I work with the product makers and design products like this for companies. Believe I would give me left nut to get some of the raw 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol powder right now. Every one and there brother is looking for it.
So look out for places that say they have 10-15mg of active ingredient. More often then not they don't. I know monsterdrol was tested and its pure.
Bro I work with the product makers and design products like this for companies. Believe I would give me left nut to get some of the raw 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol powder right now. Every one and there brother is looking for it.
So look out for places that say they have 10-15mg of active ingredient. More often then not they don't. I know monsterdrol was tested and its pure.
needtogetaas
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Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.
In this thread we will search out the best sponsor products and stack them up for the best combos. We will explain the stack,the products in them, whats in the products and how to use them. We will tell you where to get them and how to get them cheap. Of course all questions and comments are welcome.
To get in the spirit of the season (winter bulking) today we will start with needto's (get fucking jacked) stack. Or that is what I will call it anyway.
Products in the stack
1 M-Drol 90 Caps (justaddmucle.com)
1 P-plex 90 caps (justaddmuscle.com
1 1-t (primordialperformance.com)
1 Ai's cycle support or cycle assist (justaddmuscl.come)
1 RawMCC ( http://www.agxsports.com/)
1 WAXIMAIZE Natural 5 Lbs (justaddmuscle.com)
1 Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA/ supplements 911 (justaddmuscle.com)
1 sustain alpha (primordialperformance.com)
1 unleashed and 1 postcycle ( proteinfactory.com ) (or ef store cause its cheaper)
How to take
weeks
The cycle
1-4 2 caps p-plex ed
1-4 2 caps m-drol ed
1-4 4 pumps 1-t ed
The pct.
4-8 5 pumps sustain alpha ed
4-8 3 caps unleashed ed
4-8 3 caps postcycle ed
The support and added nutrition and muscle growth enhancers.
Ai's cycle support ed
Post work out shake ed with
double serving of supplements 911 protein/ 1 serving BCAA/ 1 serving RawMCC / 1 serving WAXIMAIZE.
Next we will start looking into the products.
In this thread we will search out the best sponsor products and stack them up for the best combos. We will explain the stack,the products in them, whats in the products and how to use them. We will tell you where to get them and how to get them cheap. Of course all questions and comments are welcome.
To get in the spirit of the season (winter bulking) today we will start with needto's (get fucking jacked) stack. Or that is what I will call it anyway.
Products in the stack
1 M-Drol 90 Caps (justaddmucle.com)
1 P-plex 90 caps (justaddmuscle.com
1 1-t (primordialperformance.com)
1 Ai's cycle support or cycle assist (justaddmuscl.come)
1 RawMCC ( http://www.agxsports.com/)
1 WAXIMAIZE Natural 5 Lbs (justaddmuscle.com)
1 Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA/ supplements 911 (justaddmuscle.com)
1 sustain alpha (primordialperformance.com)
1 unleashed and 1 postcycle ( proteinfactory.com ) (or ef store cause its cheaper)
How to take
weeks
The cycle
1-4 2 caps p-plex ed
1-4 2 caps m-drol ed
1-4 4 pumps 1-t ed
The pct.
4-8 5 pumps sustain alpha ed
4-8 3 caps unleashed ed
4-8 3 caps postcycle ed
The support and added nutrition and muscle growth enhancers.
Ai's cycle support ed
Post work out shake ed with
double serving of supplements 911 protein/ 1 serving BCAA/ 1 serving RawMCC / 1 serving WAXIMAIZE.
Next we will start looking into the products.
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.
This is awesome bro...great idea! I live it...
Is the 1-T officially released?
This is awesome bro...great idea! I live it...
Is the 1-T officially released?
needtogetaas
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Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.
Which is why I said ( or cycle assist) which is pill form.
Which is why I said ( or cycle assist) which is pill form.
needtogetaas
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Alright bro lets get down to business!!!! First up m-drol.
Alright bro lets get down to business!!!! First up m-drol.
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I thought it was called Life cycle support?
Which is why I said ( or cycle assist) which is pill form.
I thought it was called Life cycle support?
needtogetaas
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YA ya its a different product but same concept.
YA ya its a different product but same concept.
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+1
4 Life Support = 1 scoop of Cycle Support
+1
4 Life Support = 1 scoop of Cycle Support
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This looks Killer!!!!
You could expect some serious meat with this cycle. 10-15 pounds of lbm if you have your shit together in the kitchen and weight room.
One thing I would like to mention. Some people claim that PPlex does not aromatize. I'm not too sure about this. I would definitely have some adex or aromasin on hand during this cycle. I found out the hard way that gyno can flare up quick. Even with these designers. Always better safe than sorry.
This looks Killer!!!!
You could expect some serious meat with this cycle. 10-15 pounds of lbm if you have your shit together in the kitchen and weight room.
One thing I would like to mention. Some people claim that PPlex does not aromatize. I'm not too sure about this. I would definitely have some adex or aromasin on hand during this cycle. I found out the hard way that gyno can flare up quick. Even with these designers. Always better safe than sorry.
rikishi
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Is it worth it to take creatine pw during a cycle of designer steroids?
Is it worth it to take creatine pw during a cycle of designer steroids?
needtogetaas
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each cap of m-drol has 10 mg of 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol –aka oral masteron or monsterdrol/superdrol/Methylated Masterdiol. This is a dht derivative. As we have seen and heard all around the board this is a powerful compound and its a real legal steroid. We have also seen that the gains are hard and lean. Massive strength gains are common with this compound. Often called dbol with out the bloat.
SD/m-drol/monserdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. With its inability to aromatize , since it’s already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen.
Despite being marketed as a supplement available legally and deemed another 'pro-hormone' or 'pro-steroid' by many companies and people, there is nothing very 'pro' about SD. In reality, SD is a steroid, and that is what the reader must primarily understand. It is methylated, so will cause stress on the liver, which will cause stress on blood pressure, cholesterol and lipid values. It is an anabolic/androgenic steroid, thus it has the potential to give side effects normally seen in normal anabolic steroid use. It will shut your natural testosterone production down, and ‘Post Cycle Therapy’ (PCT) is not only recommended, but frankly required. I cannot stress the fact how important a proper PCT is after a cycle of SD
this is why we have added the ai's cycle support to the cycle and also the sustain alpha for pct.
p-plex aka Phera Plex/dmt/Madol (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)
also known as DMT is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid" of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone and THG.
Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic, however, and therefore not going to provide the same sheer-mass-building benefits that an injectable testosterone would. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral. It should be noted that some Progestational Activity has been noted in users of this compound.
This shit is powerful as fuck.
Next up PP"s 1-t
Lets add a little estro to ballance things out as well as some good old test production.
whats in 1-t
The first compound is 1-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one [aka, 1-androsterone™ or 1-DHEA].
This steroid molecule is very closely related to the original 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone that were very popular prior to the 2004 pro-hormone ban. (1) They produced solid gains in lean muscle within a short period of time, with low side-effects. They where know as “dry” steroid hormones, because they didn’t convert to estrogen or promote water retention and bloat. (1)
You will see 1-androsterone is only one step away from 1-androstenediol and two steps away from 1-testosterone
All it takes is a change on the 3rd or 17th position to convert 1-androsteone into muscle building steroid hormones. These conversions are made with the naturally occurring steroidogenic enzymes -- 3b-HSD and 17b-HSD. (3)
A special advantage of delivering the 1-androsterone topically is the super concentration of steroidogenic enzymes in the skin, compared to a relatively low amount throughout the digestive track. (4-8)
This is exactly what makes 1-T so effective -- 1-androsterone absorbs through the skin, so it’s forced to convert to the desired target hormones. (2,4-8)
Having relatively low oral bio-availability and a high price, it was a no-brainer putting 1-androsterone into a topical delivery system. Being that 1-androsterone also has a low molecular weight it can achieve up to 40% delivery through the skin with our OHV topical delivery system, compared to only about 8% orally. (13,14)
1-androsterone as a topical offers the following benefits -
* High conversion to 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone
* Zero conversion to estrogen
* Non-methylated and non-toxic to the liver
* Quality gains in dense lean muscle mass
Now, this is all very nice, but we wanted to take 1-T to the next level, and create a real muscle builder.
Truthfully, some estrogen is desirable for maximum muscle growth, so we chose a hormone that could fill this void and make 1-T an exceptionally well rounded pro-steroid formula.
In comes 5-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one. [aka, DHEA]
As you may know, DHEA is the main active ingredient in our other topical product Dermacrine – which has proven benefits for improving body composition and strength. As with 1-androsterone, the DHEA is more effective as a topical because it is forced to interact with the steroidogenic enzymes and convert to more powerful anabolic and androgenic hormones that can build muscle and burn fat. (4-12)
Of course, DHEA can also convert to estrogen which supports GH production (11), immunity (15,16), sex drive (17), healthy cholesterol levels (11), and perhaps most importantly – rapid gains in muscle mass and size – and the engorged feeling of anabolism in the muscles. [known as the pump]
The benefits of DHEA [applied through the skin] could be compared to a moderate dose of injectable testosterone. On the other hand, 1-androsterone could be compared to the anabolic steroid Primobolan,
with all 3 compounds we have everything covered. Its like a fucking test/mast/andro/primo stack all rolled into one....
Now onto the other products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
each cap of m-drol has 10 mg of 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol –aka oral masteron or monsterdrol/superdrol/Methylated Masterdiol. This is a dht derivative. As we have seen and heard all around the board this is a powerful compound and its a real legal steroid. We have also seen that the gains are hard and lean. Massive strength gains are common with this compound. Often called dbol with out the bloat.
SD/m-drol/monserdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. With its inability to aromatize , since it’s already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen.
Despite being marketed as a supplement available legally and deemed another 'pro-hormone' or 'pro-steroid' by many companies and people, there is nothing very 'pro' about SD. In reality, SD is a steroid, and that is what the reader must primarily understand. It is methylated, so will cause stress on the liver, which will cause stress on blood pressure, cholesterol and lipid values. It is an anabolic/androgenic steroid, thus it has the potential to give side effects normally seen in normal anabolic steroid use. It will shut your natural testosterone production down, and ‘Post Cycle Therapy’ (PCT) is not only recommended, but frankly required. I cannot stress the fact how important a proper PCT is after a cycle of SD
this is why we have added the ai's cycle support to the cycle and also the sustain alpha for pct.
p-plex aka Phera Plex/dmt/Madol (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)
also known as DMT is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid" of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone and THG.
Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic, however, and therefore not going to provide the same sheer-mass-building benefits that an injectable testosterone would. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral. It should be noted that some Progestational Activity has been noted in users of this compound.
This shit is powerful as fuck.
Next up PP"s 1-t
Lets add a little estro to ballance things out as well as some good old test production.
whats in 1-t
The first compound is 1-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one [aka, 1-androsterone™ or 1-DHEA].
This steroid molecule is very closely related to the original 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone that were very popular prior to the 2004 pro-hormone ban. (1) They produced solid gains in lean muscle within a short period of time, with low side-effects. They where know as “dry” steroid hormones, because they didn’t convert to estrogen or promote water retention and bloat. (1)
You will see 1-androsterone is only one step away from 1-androstenediol and two steps away from 1-testosterone
All it takes is a change on the 3rd or 17th position to convert 1-androsteone into muscle building steroid hormones. These conversions are made with the naturally occurring steroidogenic enzymes -- 3b-HSD and 17b-HSD. (3)
A special advantage of delivering the 1-androsterone topically is the super concentration of steroidogenic enzymes in the skin, compared to a relatively low amount throughout the digestive track. (4-8)
This is exactly what makes 1-T so effective -- 1-androsterone absorbs through the skin, so it’s forced to convert to the desired target hormones. (2,4-8)
Having relatively low oral bio-availability and a high price, it was a no-brainer putting 1-androsterone into a topical delivery system. Being that 1-androsterone also has a low molecular weight it can achieve up to 40% delivery through the skin with our OHV topical delivery system, compared to only about 8% orally. (13,14)
1-androsterone as a topical offers the following benefits -
* High conversion to 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone
* Zero conversion to estrogen
* Non-methylated and non-toxic to the liver
* Quality gains in dense lean muscle mass
Now, this is all very nice, but we wanted to take 1-T to the next level, and create a real muscle builder.
Truthfully, some estrogen is desirable for maximum muscle growth, so we chose a hormone that could fill this void and make 1-T an exceptionally well rounded pro-steroid formula.
In comes 5-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one. [aka, DHEA]
As you may know, DHEA is the main active ingredient in our other topical product Dermacrine – which has proven benefits for improving body composition and strength. As with 1-androsterone, the DHEA is more effective as a topical because it is forced to interact with the steroidogenic enzymes and convert to more powerful anabolic and androgenic hormones that can build muscle and burn fat. (4-12)
Of course, DHEA can also convert to estrogen which supports GH production (11), immunity (15,16), sex drive (17), healthy cholesterol levels (11), and perhaps most importantly – rapid gains in muscle mass and size – and the engorged feeling of anabolism in the muscles. [known as the pump]
The benefits of DHEA [applied through the skin] could be compared to a moderate dose of injectable testosterone. On the other hand, 1-androsterone could be compared to the anabolic steroid Primobolan,
with all 3 compounds we have everything covered. Its like a fucking test/mast/andro/primo stack all rolled into one....
Now onto the other products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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