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Lozgod's Liquid Oral Recipes

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Homebrew sure is fun if you ask me. I remember my first conversion. It was Nolvadex 20mg/ml. It was clear as water in 190 proof grain alcohol after some heat. Then two days later it crashed and I felt so let down. I followed the formulas out there and it wasn't working out. So I dug deeper and learned about PEG's and molecular weights and the such. I have made almost every conversion their is in the homebrew realm and would like to share my liquid oral recipes with the anabolic world.

For each hormone I listed ingredients needed. For the procedure scroll down.

Anadrol:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxymetholone you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 300
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Anavar:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Armidex:
Highest concentration made - 5mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Anastrozole powder you will need:
19.9 ml's PEG 300
179.1 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Clomid:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 600
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Dianabol:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Methandrostenolone powder you will need:
19 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
No PEG needed. Follow the no PEG recipe.

Femara:
Highest concentration made - 5mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Letrozole powder you will need:
19.9 ml's PEG 300
179.1 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Nolvadex:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 600
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Proviron:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Mesterolone you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 300
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Winstrol:
Highest concentration made - 25 mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Stanzolol you will need:
7.8 ml's of PEG 300
31.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol


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Solutions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol

Step 1. Prepare a hot water bath. Boil water in microwave or on a pot. Once boiling starts remove from heat.

Step 2. Place PEG and powder in beaker.

Step 3. Place the beaker deep enough in to the water so that the hot water is level with the PEG and powder. Gently swirl or stir with a stir rod until solution is clear. Reheat water as needed.

Step 4. Allow PEG to cool some. Then add in your 190 proof alcohol. You don't have to do this drop by drop but don't just dump it in. Pour it in slowly.

Step 5. Stir or gently shake until mixed.




For recipes that do not require PEG.

1. Mix powder and 190 proof alcohol.

2. Stir with stir rod or shake. Most powders that do not require PEG will disolve no problem. If heat is needed follow the instructions for heating powders that use PEG.
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Great thread man,just joined this sight.We have a rejuvination clinic in the Dominican Republic(ITS
 
One question,if winny injectable can be 100mg/ml why only 25 mg max for oral? As I stated earlier we have a clinic in the D.R. and are always looking to stay up on things.Any new custom brews for AAS. THanks
 
Lozgod's Liquid Oral Recipes

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Homebrew sure is fun if you ask me. I remember my first conversion. It was Nolvadex 20mg/ml. It was clear as water in 190 proof grain alcohol after some heat. Then two days later it crashed and I felt so let down. I followed the formulas out there and it wasn't working out. So I dug deeper and learned about PEG's and molecular weights and the such. I have made almost every conversion their is in the homebrew realm and would like to share my liquid oral recipes with the anabolic world.

For each hormone I listed ingredients needed. For the procedure scroll down.

Anadrol:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxymetholone you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 300
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Anavar:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Armidex:
Highest concentration made - 5mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Anastrozole powder you will need:
19.9 ml's PEG 300
179.1 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Clomid:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Clomiphene Citrate you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 600
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Dianabol:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Methandrostenolone powder you will need:
19 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol
No PEG needed. Follow the no PEG recipe.

Femara:
Highest concentration made - 5mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Letrozole powder you will need:
19.9 ml's PEG 300
179.1 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Nolvadex:
Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Tamoxifen Citrate you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 600
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Proviron:
Highest concentration made - 50mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Mesterolone you will need:
8.4 ml's of PEG 300
10.5 ml's 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

Winstrol:
Highest concentration made - 25 mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Stanzolol you will need:
7.8 ml's of PEG 300
31.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol


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Solutions requiring PEG and 190 Proof Alcohol

Step 1. Prepare a hot water bath. Boil water in microwave or on a pot. Once boiling starts remove from heat.

Step 2. Place PEG and powder in beaker.

Step 3. Place the beaker deep enough in to the water so that the hot water is level with the PEG and powder. Gently swirl or stir with a stir rod until solution is clear. Reheat water as needed.

Step 4. Allow PEG to cool some. Then add in your 190 proof alcohol. You don't have to do this drop by drop but don't just dump it in. Pour it in slowly.

Step 5. Stir or gently shake until mixed.




For recipes that do not require PEG.

1. Mix powder and 190 proof alcohol.

2. Stir with stir rod or shake. Most powders that do not require PEG will disolve no problem. If heat is needed follow the instructions for heating powders that use PEG.
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is that have to be 190 proof alcohol.:? cuz in that bloody UK its hard to get
 
that winny recipe fucked me up. it did not suspend at all i wasted a bunch

that means you wasted a bunch and got the real deal bro LOL
if winny suspends well you know something is wrong. I've made winny homebrew several times and I can tell immediately when something is mixed in. Real winny will just float around in the water like snow flakes and if you let it sit for a few hours most of it will settle on the bottom.
 
Just so you know an Oral Suspension is just that. The particals are only suspended in the liquid not necessarliy dissolved. Some of those up there will actually dissolve but then again some wont. That does not preclude them from effective and efficient use tho. They still work and work dam well.
Good luck.
 
Do you have any recipes for stuff that can be made from easily obtainable materials such as tren from fina? Most of these powders are hard to get for me.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Im new to the forum but your recipies interested me very much. What exactly is PEG

Polyethylene glycol, basically it's like a ester. It reduces the rate at Witch it's carrier is released into the blood. Protein would be an example of a carrier.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Reviving an old thread I know.

Just want to let people know my experience. I made my first batch of Anavar using the grain alcohol recipe.

I next made Arimidex oral liquid. But instead of using any grain alcohol, I used only PEG and Vegetably glycerine; no grain alcohol. And it turned out perfectly fine, no crashing.

So try a small batch, perhaps 20ml (1/10 the batch size of those given that have you making 200 freaking ml; that is a huge batch! And takes a huge storage bottle as well) using only vg and pg. It worked for me, and also doesn't taste terrible.
 
Update: I just made a 20ml batch of letro using just pg and vg. The letro was stubborn to dissolve. I mixed only 5ml total pg and vg in a glass dropper with 0.1g of letro powder. I heat that in the microwave until it was nearly boiling, take the hot bottle out using a towel or oven mit, and shook like hell. Letro didn't want to dissolve in that little liquid.

I added another 5ml pg and vg for now total 10ml liquid, heat it til boiling, shook like hell; repeat, repeat. It finally dissolved no flakes or crystals. Then I added the last 10ml pg and vg for a total of 20ml, heat shake, repeat.

I will report back after I make my next batch of anavar using VG and PG only and tell you if it works.

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Another note about my experience in making orals:

The first batch of anavar made using grain alcohol, is of course a very thin and watery like liquid. Anavar is stubborn to stay dissolved. After a few days you will have crystals back in the mix, and you will have to spend 5 or 10 minutes heating and shaking to get the flakes to dissolve.

I think this is partly because the liquid is too thin, not viscous enough.

VG is very thick, like oil or gel. It doesn't "run." So when you make orals using VG, the liquid stays thick. Once you heat and shake till dissolved, the solution should be less likely to crystallize again, you shouldn't get flakes forming (crashing). Because the viscous mix will "stay in a gel," the dissolved particles can't move around the bottle and settle together at the bottom.

So this is another benefit of using just VG or mostly VG and a little PG in your oral liquid.

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Another benefit of using VG:

Grain alcohol is of course flammable. So when my anavar kept crashing, I had to heat that glass dropper bottle up real hot to shake and get the crystals to dissolve.

Well, you'd have to be an idiot to put flammable liquid in the microwave! So you have to heat up a pyrex of water near boiling, put your glass dropper bottle in it, and once the bottle gets hot enough, shake, repeat...

^This is annoying.

With the VG method, you can safely microwave your dropper bottle to shake any crystals out.
 
Another helpful tip in making oral liquids:

There are 20 drops in a ml of liquid. So to find your dosage per drop, take you dosage per ml and divide by 20.

For example: 5mg/ml liquid = 5mg/20drops = 0.25mg per drop. If your dosage calls for 0.25mg per day, take one drop per day.

Do this math before you make the mixture. You might want to double the amount of liquid to make your dosage smaller or possibly more accurate to take in drops. You might for example want to make 0.125mg per drop liquid, and take 2 drops to get a more accurate 0.25mg dose. Or perhaps you'd like to take 0.25 one day, and bump it up to 0.375mg later, you can't do this using 0.25mg per drop, you'd have to take 1.5 drops. How can you measure 0.5 drops? You can't.
 
A photo showing no crystals formed on the bottom ot 20mg VG and PG letro mixture, you'd be able to see white flakes settled at the bottom if the powder would not dissolve:

IMG_20161013_173835492.webp
 
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