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How much can you squat??

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DaveTSI

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I always see the how much ya' bench threads, even a deadlift one here or there. Dont remember seeing a squat thread though. I'm talking your 1 rep max. On cycle/Off cycle? Raw? Geared up?

I dont even want to hear about it if your doing half squats/using a smith machine/your training partner is pulling your chest up as hard as he can. Your already lying to yourself, no need to lie to us too.
 
smith machine, 390 lbs 10 times
 
Im around 600-625 with a belt and light knee wraps right now, well over 700 with IPF legal wraps/suit.
 
u should ask this for FRONT SQUATS. i aint impressed with regular squat with how much back people use, even when they use proper form.
 
8and20 said:
u should ask this for FRONT SQUATS. i aint impressed with regular squat with how much back people use, even when they use proper form.

squats use your entire body, if you try to squat without using your back you'll end up on your face

you should start you own poll on front squatting
 
8and20 said:
u should ask this for FRONT SQUATS. i aint impressed with regular squat with how much back people use, even when they use proper form.

I do front squats too but my shoulders/arms give out before my legs do.
 
DaveTSI said:
squats use your entire body, if you try to squat without using your back you'll end up on your face

you should start you own poll on front squatting

Dont be a dick. u know what i meant.
 
8and20 said:
u should ask this for FRONT SQUATS. i aint impressed with regular squat with how much back people use, even when they use proper form.
If that's you in avatar, I might try front squats.
Personal best was 405x8 on a mild cycle of Syrus NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - @ 400mg/week.
Lean and cutting, I could still squat 365x6-8. I was maintaining with 200mg/week of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - only. My legs are gift of God. My bench is average or below average compared to squats.
http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260tq.jpg
I did 365x9 in 1997 on creatine only and had not done aas since 1993 and did not do aas again until 2001.
The link is 2006.
 
bbkingpin said:
If that's you in avatar, I might try front squats.
Personal best was 405x8 on a mild cycle of Syrus NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - @ 400mg/week.
Lean and cutting, I could still squat 365x6-8. I was maintaining with 200mg/week of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - only. My legs are gift of God. My bench is average or below average compared to squats.
http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260tq.jpg
I did 365x9 in 1997 on creatine only and had not done aas since 1993 and did not do aas again until 2001.
The link is 2006.

thats me.

u got some strong ass legs bro. i aint pushing that kinda weight.
 
bbkingpin said:
If that's you in avatar, I might try front squats.
Personal best was 405x8 on a mild cycle of Syrus NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - @ 400mg/week.
Lean and cutting, I could still squat 365x6-8. I was maintaining with 200mg/week of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - only. My legs are gift of God. My bench is average or below average compared to squats.
http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00260tq.jpg
I did 365x9 in 1997 on creatine only and had not done aas since 1993 and did not do aas again until 2001.
The link is 2006.
not bad, you dont know what you can do for a single though? you should try it your probably around 5 wheels
 
breagan said:
i broke my high schools squat record last semester at 505lbs

Not calling bullshit, but that would put you in a pretty special company if true. I'm assuming you are under 18? Please don't tell me you are like 165 pounds now.
 
DaveTSI said:
I always see the how much ya' bench threads, even a deadlift one here or there. Dont remember seeing a squat thread though. I'm talking your 1 rep max. On cycle/Off cycle? Raw? Geared up?

I dont even want to hear about it if your doing half squats/using a smith machine/your training partner is pulling your chest up as hard as he can. Your already lying to yourself, no need to lie to us too.


I'm in the 600 range,,,deep bottom squats
 
DaveTSI said:
I always see the how much ya' bench threads, even a deadlift one here or there. Dont remember seeing a squat thread though. I'm talking your 1 rep max. On cycle/Off cycle? Raw? Geared up?

I dont even want to hear about it if your doing half squats/using a smith machine/your training partner is pulling your chest up as hard as he can. Your already lying to yourself, no need to lie to us too.


most ever was 575 for 7 reps. Havent squatted since lol. Arthrittis at 28 is ridiculous, but what do ya do.
 
DaveTSI said:
not bad, you dont know what you can do for a single though? you should try it your probably around 5 wheels
Never tried, maybe I will. Lower reps -- no more than 6 -- seem to be best for strength and mass.
 
oh yeah i could have def gotten more i wasnt maxing out, just what my program had outlined for me last night. my knees where killing me too so i wanted to get it over with lol.
 
LOL!

This thread has not taken off nearly as much as the 'how much do you bench'

You can tell what most lads love to train, arms and chest.

If you don't squat though, you are never going to get the best development out of your upper body.
 
Tatyana said:
LOL!

This thread has not taken off nearly as much as the 'how much do you bench'

You can tell what most lads love to train, arms and chest.

If you don't squat though, you are never going to get the best development out of your upper body.

i knew it would be a flop :(
 
and im calling BS on the beanpole whole chose 700+ lol
 
diddley


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365x5 was my max.
I'm tall and skinny 6'4" and that's a long way down for me.

I've been out of the gym for over a year and just recently got back. I had my first leg day yesterday. Now going into the gym I was telling myself that I'm just going to go through the motions with like 135 because I knew I'd be sore a shit today. Well of course I put more weight on than I should have (225 x5 for three sets) because today I'm in more doms pain than I have ever been in. I keep telling myself that it will be worth it though.
 
today was my leg day, 405 - 4 sets 10 reps. based on laws of percentages, 10 reps = 75% 1RM, so my max would probably be around 540 - 550. it was a whole lot heavier 20 years ago :D
 
Tatyana said:
If you don't squat though, you are never going to get the best development out of your upper body.


yep, if you want to grow, you have to do squats and deadlifts. period.
 
440 for 5 x 5 yesterday, sore today and lower back "tired"
I am about 250lbs, 12% BF, squating for 25years, no knee pain because I started off front squating and olympic lfting, then deadlifting, and when I got around to back squating I had strong quads, hamstrings, lower back, glutes, calfs and torso from my strange route into squats, I do full squats mostly, some times heavier paralell and half and quarter squats and leg press. never liked leg extensions or curls and i threw the shot, played rugby , did karate and even tried powerlifting, flexibillity and good supporting muscles prevent injury and wear and tear, OH yeah I started taking cod liver oil pills and and multi vits years ago, i think it helped.
When I was trying powerlifting i learned special techniques and used suits, I could hit 600 for a double in the "no,no,no" style, special training, technique and a suit and I did 750 in a meetso that's 25% over what I could do naturally! If there is a guy here who can do 600 raw that's good, I would say i cound do 500 now maybe and with special style and a suit a little over 600 but that doesnt count
 
bigthrower said:
440 for 5 x 5 yesterday, sore today and lower back "tired"
I am about 250lbs, 12% BF, squating for 25years, no knee pain because I started off front squating and olympic lfting, then deadlifting, and when I got around to back squating I had strong quads, hamstrings, lower back, glutes, calfs and torso from my strange route into squats, I do full squats mostly, some times heavier paralell and half and quarter squats and leg press. never liked leg extensions or curls and i threw the shot, played rugby , did karate and even tried powerlifting, flexibillity and good supporting muscles prevent injury and wear and tear, OH yeah I started taking cod liver oil pills and and multi vits years ago, i think it helped.
When I was trying powerlifting i learned special techniques and used suits, I could hit 600 for a double in the "no,no,no" style, special training, technique and a suit and I did 750 in a meetso that's 25% over what I could do naturally! If there is a guy here who can do 600 raw that's good, I would say i cound do 500 now maybe and with special style and a suit a little over 600 but that doesnt count
This might sound weird but I wear snug jeans when I squat (usually at home since I have a "shotgun rack" at home with safetys. Even in gym I do the same thing). If I wear loose shorts I might be able to do the same weight but something about the tight jeans (not homosexual tight :)) (that's why I say "snug," words matter) gives me support, physical or psychological or both, that helps me go down slow and steady and come back up nice and "strong."

The reason I mention it is because you talk about wearing a suit and, though I never used a suit (although it's bemusing watching people get into them for the uninitiated), I just wanted to add my $.02.

And, when doing leg presses (next to never for me), I think you could do them in your underwear, it would not matter. Not saying heavy leg presses are easy or relaxing, just that there's a big difference having the bar on your back and using all the stabilizing muscles in your body to descend and ascend. Squats are probably safer than leg presses for that reason. You cannot go too heavy -- i.e., more heavy than safety dictates. (Unless you are a moron. :))
 
bigjd69 said:
I did 600lbs for 1 rep on two different occasions back in the day @195LBS

thats sick bro, was it raw?
 
skacorica said:
max: 500. Current max: cant do bodyweight...got something funky goin on with the knee :(

that sucks, my knees where fucked up for almost a year. I didnt squat an ounce of weight for 8 months. Ive been back for about 2 months squatting now and it feels great. Whats going on with your knees?
 
Fuck you Trizio... You are a Hoss!! Lately I have been hitting higher rep sets. No need for me to hit maxes anymore. I can hit 405 for a deep triple with a belt any day of the week though. I got 3 whites with 525 in single ply gear in an APF meet 3 years ago. I was a very light 198lber.
 
DaveTSI said:
that sucks, my knees where fucked up for almost a year. I didnt squat an ounce of weight for 8 months. Ive been back for about 2 months squatting now and it feels great. Whats going on with your knees?

Not sure to be honest...nothing ever popped or anything, just suddenly got a sharp pain right above my knee area...almost in between the knee and the quad. It doesnt hurt to run, or play basketball or anything but dull aches sometimes just sitting at work. Bizzare, so Ive just been laying off squatting for now. Definitely sucks though, I hate not working legs.
 
Jocephus said:
Fuck you Trizio... You are a Hoss!! Lately I have been hitting higher rep sets. No need for me to hit maxes anymore. I can hit 405 for a deep triple with a belt any day of the week though. I got 3 whites with 525 in single ply gear in an APF meet 3 years ago. I was a very light 198lber.

nice
 
skacorica said:
Not sure to be honest...nothing ever popped or anything, just suddenly got a sharp pain right above my knee area...almost in between the knee and the quad. It doesnt hurt to run, or play basketball or anything but dull aches sometimes just sitting at work. Bizzare, so Ive just been laying off squatting for now. Definitely sucks though, I hate not working legs.

i squat very wide now and it takes most of the pressure off your knees and transfers it to your hips. Its more of a PLing movement, but if you want to squat you should give this a try. Its very different than BB squats, but its a squat non the less. there is NO WAY i could squat if i had to do them close.
 
DaveTSI said:
i squat very wide now and it takes most of the pressure off your knees and transfers it to your hips. Its more of a PLing movement, but if you want to squat you should give this a try. Its very different than BB squats, but its a squat non the less. there is NO WAY i could squat if i had to do them close.

i am the opposite way. i have a hard time with wider stance as i always did them fairly narrow for years. i am just now doing them wider.
 
8and20 said:
i am the opposite way. i have a hard time with wider stance as i always did them fairly narrow for years. i am just now doing them wider.

once your hips come up to speed you'll be good, they are the biggest part of wide squatting/deadlifting.
 
before my tricep tear: about 550. now: 450 :(
 
Just did front squats for first time maxed at 315lbs with wraps and belt. Haven't maxed on back squats for a while but i'd guess around 455lbs with wraps and belt. Just hit a 500lbs deadlif the other day so im pumped.
 
Some pretty impressive squats around here - DaveTSI is a fucking animal in his 470 video

415 raw and natural was my best for 1 - weigh 235 lbs 5'10"

Trying to get to 500 this year - doing alot of box squatting

Box squatting I've hit 435 but from what I understand, box squating is easier than a standard squat so I really can't be too proud
 
I'm a weakling, I did do 200lbs four times in September but since then I've just been having problems and haven't got back up to that again yet.

I'm definitely going to break that this year though.
 
Daran said:
225 is the most i've ever done. =[

Don't be ashamed. Keep paying your dues and squating deep with good form and the weight will come. On your body and on the bar.
 
im working with a newbie whos current max is about 100lbs,(when he started it was just the bar) but hes improving fast. terrible genetics, but hes dedicated.
 
380 for 5 (supposedly that's 428 for one rep, but I've never tried so who knows). As far as gear goes, I wear a weight belt and I always do my best to go right to the floor.

I don't know if 500 (for at least a couple reps) is a realistic goal for the end of '08 (no PEDs) but I'm going to give it a whirl. I tend to progress reasonably quickly...
 
The squat is my nemesis.
My all time best is 585x1 pre gear useage.
I cracked 500 a couple of different times last year while on cycle.
I have some video, but I doubt it's worth the effort to post.
 
I would call BS but most of the posters in this thread are probably playing Warcraft right now....

Useless w/ out vids.

I saw a guy 'squatting' 485 last night. He looked like the kind of guy that would start a thread like this.... I go lower on a Push Press then he was on what he called a PL Squat.

Oly Depth w/ No Belt, No Wraps, No Spotter w/ pic of the wheeels or a vid would make this place much more interesting.

And BW vs. Squat weight means more than what you squat. So if your 250 and squatting 500 that is not so super cool.
 
al420 said:
I would call BS but most of the posters in this thread are probably playing Warcraft right now....

Useless w/ out vids.

I saw a guy 'squatting' 485 last night. He looked like the kind of guy that would start a thread like this.... I go lower on a Push Press then he was on what he called a PL Squat.

Oly Depth w/ No Belt, No Wraps, No Spotter w/ pic of the wheeels or a vid would make this place much more interesting.

And BW vs. Squat weight means more than what you squat. So if your 250 and squatting 500 that is not so super cool.


Damn Al420 I was hoping you wouldn't bring up the BW vs Squat issue! I'm only 180 lbs over bodyweight which sucks.

Very interesting points on the "Oly Depth w/ No Belt, No Wraps, No Spotter..."
I don't think the pic of the wheels is necessary since many guys don't have really impressive legs but can still move some weight - I agree with the vid's though.
 
Jocephus said:
Don't be ashamed. Keep paying your dues and squating deep with good form and the weight will come. On your body and on the bar.

I used to do these so called 'half squats' with 185, now i'm going deep and it's way more difficult (obviously). I'll surpass 225 fast.
 
depth is key. if the bar is moving less than a foot, it's nothing. and those nylon man panties are lol funny.......
 
cboogsrun said:
most ever was 575 for 7 reps. Havent squatted since lol. Arthrittis at 28 is ridiculous, but what do ya do.

You do the best you can and be proud. Works for me :)
 
al420 said:
I would call BS but most of the posters in this thread are probably playing Warcraft right now....

Useless w/ out vids.

I saw a guy 'squatting' 485 last night. He looked like the kind of guy that would start a thread like this.... I go lower on a Push Press then he was on what he called a PL Squat.

Oly Depth w/ No Belt, No Wraps, No Spotter w/ pic of the wheeels or a vid would make this place much more interesting.

And BW vs. Squat weight means more than what you squat. So if your 250 and squatting 500 that is not so super cool.

Ouch...

I have this on video. From a few weeks ago. One year ago I couldn't get 600 to depth in full squat gear in a PL stance.

592 in loose APT Knee Wraps, APT Wrist Wraps, no belt, fast, well below depth.
Squat592%2001.jpg
 
b fold the truth said:
Ouch...

I have this on video. From a few weeks ago. One year ago I couldn't get 600 to depth in full squat gear in a PL stance.

592 in loose APT Knee Wraps, APT Wrist Wraps, no belt, fast, well below depth.
Squat592%2001.jpg

Great job!!!
 
b fold the truth said:
Ouch...

I have this on video. From a few weeks ago. One year ago I couldn't get 600 to depth in full squat gear in a PL stance.

592 in loose APT Knee Wraps, APT Wrist Wraps, no belt, fast, well below depth.
Squat592%2001.jpg

You know what I mean... look at some of these claims. You have to know most are nonsense. Unless this board is filled w/ Natl. Level strength athletes I call BS.

I travel a lot. Go to a lot of gyms. Train with Natl. level PL's & WL's and some of these numbers are just not right.
 
al420 said:
You know what I mean... look at some of these claims. You have to know most are nonsense. Unless this board is filled w/ Natl. Level strength athletes I call BS.

I travel a lot. Go to a lot of gyms. Train with Natl. level PL's & WL's and some of these numbers are just not right.

I know EXACTLY what you mean big man. I checked 700+ because I have done 800 in full PL gear and 661 raw with a PL stance before. I've done 602 just as in the picture above.

I love going to gyms where an 800 squat is somebody's opener..
 
b fold the truth said:
I know EXACTLY what you mean big man. I checked 700+ because I have done 800 in full PL gear and 661 raw with a PL stance before. I've done 602 just as in the picture above.

I love going to gyms where an 800 squat is somebody's opener..

What is so funny is most of these guys should be competing in PL with their HUGE squats. I looked at the Natl. PL stats a sec ago and half of these posters must be top 100 PL'rs.... :rolleyes:

All I know is my squat is huge, and everywhere I go I don;t see these EF BB types doing much of anything but flexing thier abs in the locker room mirro and talking LOUDLY about thier gear use.

I guess I will see most of you in the warm-up room at the Arnolds in a few months.
 
im top 10 raw for 2007 :) in all three lifts :qt:

"I saw a guy 'squatting' 485 last night. He looked like the kind of guy that would start a thread like this.... I go lower on a Push Press then he was on what he called a PL Squat."

i hope you werent referring to me in this message
 
al420 said:
What is so funny is most of these guys should be competing in PL with their HUGE squats. I looked at the Natl. PL stats a sec ago and half of these posters must be top 100 PL'rs.... :rolleyes:

All I know is my squat is huge, and everywhere I go I don;t see these EF BB types doing much of anything but flexing thier abs in the locker room mirro and talking LOUDLY about thier gear use.

I guess I will see most of you in the warm-up room at the Arnolds in a few months.

In the 308's...I wouldn't even make A stage...lol
 
al420 said:
What is so funny is most of these guys should be competing in PL with their HUGE squats. I looked at the Natl. PL stats a sec ago and half of these posters must be top 100 PL'rs.... :rolleyes:

All I know is my squat is huge, and everywhere I go I don;t see these EF BB types doing much of anything but flexing thier abs in the locker room mirro and talking LOUDLY about thier gear use.

I guess I will see most of you in the warm-up room at the Arnolds in a few months.

Though I agree, I would say a lot of people attracted to this board are probably in the upper tier of their respective areas. I would wager a guess that a lot of people on here that COULD compete in pl contests. I was searching around and found a lot of regional contests with people in the top tiers doing less total weight than I would venture a guess a lot of people on here can do.

On the other hand, theres lots of people who say outrageous numbers who never even post pictures or anything so I cant disagree.
 
al420 said:
What is so funny is most of these guys should be competing in PL with their HUGE squats. I looked at the Natl. PL stats a sec ago and half of these posters must be top 100 PL'rs.... :rolleyes:

All I know is my squat is huge, and everywhere I go I don;t see these EF BB types doing much of anything but flexing thier abs in the locker room mirro and talking LOUDLY about thier gear use.

I guess I will see most of you in the warm-up room at the Arnolds in a few months.

What's a lot for someone who weighs 215 (me)? I didn't think 380 for 5 was all that much in the grand scheme of things (it is for my gym, but it's really the exception). I have no interest in going to a Powerlifting meet of any sort but I am a little curious how I'd stack up at a small regional thing.

As an aside, when you're having a bad week and your ego has taken a bit of a hit, my gym is where you want to be b/c I'm by a good stretch the strongest guy there so I get my ego stroked quite a bit. (Overall, I would prefer a gym with really big guys so I could learn something but that doesn't appear to be an option around here in T.O.)
 
deathdroprob said:
hot damn I suck I can only do 235 x 8. I really suck going heavy and low reps, I tend to go really unco and wobly

That could be from a lot of different things. From your stance to your core to your head. Any chance of getting a video clip? I'll do all I can to help.
 
I think most guys here are telling the truth, and I applaude anyone squatting to the floor with any weight, keep at it! good Luck.
PS I have seen huge squats from all types of individuals so I do believe most contributors are truthfull.
 
675 my junior year of college football. Shit you not....Recorded and witnessed by strength coach. Now I am maintaining around 550-575.
 
Jocephus said:
Don't be ashamed. Keep paying your dues and squating deep with good form and the weight will come. On your body and on the bar.

Squatting with good form is soooooooo important, better to leave the ego at the door with these, and dead lifts, cause if you don't, they will be a very short lived part of your routine.

I am still on 100 kg/220 lb for sets of 8 reps now. Squats are getting deeper and the bar feels lighter.

The first time I put that weight on my back I could barely back it out of the rack.

I also had to stop after 3 as my form was rubbish and I was wobbling all over the place.

There is something about the mind-muscle connection that just clicks.
 
drm said:
What's a lot for someone who weighs 215 (me)? I didn't think 380 for 5 was all that much in the grand scheme of things (it is for my gym, but it's really the exception). I have no interest in going to a Powerlifting meet of any sort but I am a little curious how I'd stack up at a small regional thing.

As an aside, when you're having a bad week and your ego has taken a bit of a hit, my gym is where you want to be b/c I'm by a good stretch the strongest guy there so I get my ego stroked quite a bit. (Overall, I would prefer a gym with really big guys so I could learn something but that doesn't appear to be an option around here in T.O.)

380 x5 is great at 215 if the depth is there IMO.

I hear ya on the ego stroke. My commercial gym is full of cyclists, so a 600lb rack pull is a world record to them. (not that they know WTF I am doing, but still)

I think it's b/c your canadian - no one strong up there... :p
 
I hate to call bullshit on some of your lifts but here are Rippetoe's squat standards for men:

Squat - Adult Men
Body Weight - Un-trained - Novice - Intermediate - Advanced - Elite
114 78 144 174 240 320
123 84 155 190 259 346
132 91 168 205 278 369
148 101 188 230 313 410
165 110 204 250 342 445
181 119 220 269 367 479
198 125 232 285 387 504
220 132 244 301 409 532
242 137 255 311 423 551
275 141 261 319 435 567
319 144 267 326 445 580
320+ 147 272 332 454 593
 
al420 said:
I think it's b/c your canadian - no one strong up there... :p

With the exception of Quebec, of course. I don't know what they do in that province but if you catch any of the canadian strongmen challenges, 8 out of 10 are french canadian.

The more and more people talk about it, the more and more I really should videotape myself (the main problem being that a camera really isn't in the budget right now). I am almost positive the depth is there (below parallel), but I really would like to see it on video.
 
thebadguy54 said:
I hate to call bullshit on some of your lifts but here are Rippetoe's squat standards for men:

Squat - Adult Men
Body Weight - Un-trained - Novice - Intermediate - Advanced - Elite
114 78 144 174 240 320
123 84 155 190 259 346
132 91 168 205 278 369
148 101 188 230 313 410
165 110 204 250 342 445
181 119 220 269 367 479
198 125 232 285 387 504
220 132 244 301 409 532
242 137 255 311 423 551
275 141 261 319 435 567
319 144 267 326 445 580
320+ 147 272 332 454 593

if i weighed 320 and could only squat 593 id be rethinking my hobbie, thats well under double bodyweight and that's "elite". maybe this was the case 20 years ago
 
DaveTSI said:
if i weighed 320 and could only squat 593 id be rethinking my hobbie, thats well under double bodyweight and that's "elite". maybe this was the case 20 years ago

I would think height should be worked in there maybe. But I could be wrong.
 
DaveTSI said:
if i weighed 320 and could only squat 593 id be rethinking my hobbie, thats well under double bodyweight and that's "elite". maybe this was the case 20 years ago

I agree 593 should be simple for a 320 lb. athlete.

But take a look at the 200 lb. male athlete (an average size dude like me and many other guys on this site)... we have to squat more than 2.5 x BW to be in the "elite" catergory.

I'm just saying there are many guys on here making big claims...
if they are true, they should be PAID pro athletes... and not just gym rats (like most are).
 
thebadguy54 said:
I hate to call bullshit on some of your lifts but here are Rippetoe's squat standards for men:

Squat - Adult Men
Body Weight - Un-trained - Novice - Intermediate - Advanced - Elite
114 78 144 174 240 320
123 84 155 190 259 346
132 91 168 205 278 369
148 101 188 230 313 410
165 110 204 250 342 445
181 119 220 269 367 479
198 125 232 285 387 504
220 132 244 301 409 532
242 137 255 311 423 551
275 141 261 319 435 567
319 144 267 326 445 580
320+ 147 272 332 454 593

Is that for max? That seems low. Though youd have a hard time convincing me that someone at 200 lbs couldnt squat 135 lbs once. I am looking back at my training logs (and yes I have most of them spanning 6 years) and after 2 years of training, I was definitely up there in comparison to what I should have been doing according to those charts...

That being said, we all know theres a lot of lying that goes on about peoples abilities. Said it once and Ill say it again, theres lots of claims on here, and very few pictures/vids/etc
 
thebadguy54 said:
I'm just saying there are many guys on here making big claims...
if they are true, they should be PAID pro athletes... and not just gym rats (like most are).

I still don't see a lot of big claims. My best squat ever was 800 and the last time I trained in a PL gym 800 was less than most people my weight was opening with.

A 700 lb squat just isn't really "Elite" unless you are a pretty small guy.
 
Keep in mind these squat are "ass to the grass". It doesn't count unless the crease of the hip (in other words the fold in your shorts when you squat down) is lower than the patella in the bottom position.

Real squats dude.

If you can do 700-800 lbs. rock bottom, you are one big strong motherfucker! I'm not doubting you can do it... I'm just saying, how many guys out there are as big and strong as you? 17 guys can squat over 500 just in this thread? "Bodybuilder" type guys? I don't know, I suppose it's possible?
 
thebadguy54 said:
Keep in mind these squat are "ass to the grass". It doesn't count unless the crease of the hip (in other words the fold in your shorts when you squat down) is lower than the patella in the bottom position.

Real squats dude.

If you can do 700-800 lbs. rock bottom, you are one big strong motherfucker! I'm not doubting you can do it... I'm just saying, how many guys out there are as big and strong as you? 17 guys can squat over 500 just in this thread? "Bodybuilder" type guys? I don't know, I suppose it's possible?

yeah i highly doubt 17 guys on here can dunk 5 wheels

ive been lifting for 10 years now and ive been to countless gyms and ive seen maybe 5 guys including myself that can claim this.
 
DaveTSI said:
yeah i highly doubt 17 guys on here can dunk 5 wheels

ive been lifting for 10 years now and ive been to countless gyms and ive seen maybe 5 guys including myself that can claim this.

That's what I'm saying. I'm creeping up close to 2x bodyweight and I'm still 100 lbs away from 500!

Any how many guys sqaut improperly, or on the smith machine etc.

C'mon. Rip's table aren't that far off.
 
thebadguy54 said:
Keep in mind these squat are "ass to the grass". It doesn't count unless the crease of the hip (in other words the fold in your shorts when you squat down) is lower than the patella in the bottom position.

Real squats dude.

If you can do 700-800 lbs. rock bottom, you are one big strong motherfucker! I'm not doubting you can do it... I'm just saying, how many guys out there are as big and strong as you? 17 guys can squat over 500 just in this thread? "Bodybuilder" type guys? I don't know, I suppose it's possible?

I can't get "ATG", my hams stop me. The squat in the picture above was basically my OLY squat (my weakest squat, except for my front squat). I was in the hole in the pic above as well and 290 lbs (been in hospital again, AND had a baby since that picture).

And I do get paid to compete.

When I was 18 I could squat 405 x 8 with Wal-Mart Knee Wraps on DEEP oly BBer style. I just find that a 500 lb squat for someone who is 200 lbs is easily doable with a PL stance, knee wraps, and some technique work.

2 guys squatting over 700 just doesn't seem that impressive.
 
b fold the truth said:
2 guys squatting over 700 just doesn't seem that impressive.

ummm.. thats 1 guy, and thats you

guess you didnt look at the other guys profile huh lol :rolleyes:

and obviously ATG is just a figure of speech. Thats what we say when we mean as deep as possible, i dont think ive ever seen someone actually touch the ground bro.

b fold the truth said:
I just find that a 500 lb squat for someone who is 200 lbs is easily doable with a PL stance, knee wraps, and some technique work.

lol are you serious dude? most people that weigh 200lbs cant squat their BW deep, never mind 2.5X's.

obviously your good at squatting and probably have never been 200lbs from the look of you in that picture. 200lbs lean and 300lbs and huuuge is a big difference bro. im not saying your fat or anything...but you have alot of extra bodyweight helping you get out of the hole you know what i mean. i just think your downplaying the difficulty and dedication it takes for someone to squat that kind of weight the right way. Most people arent 300lbs. dude, I struggle to maintain 210.
 
DaveTSI said:
ummm.. thats 1 guy, and thats you

guess you didnt look at the other guys profile huh lol :rolleyes:

and obviously ATG is just a figure of speech. Thats what we say when we mean as deep as possible, i dont think ive ever seen someone actually touch the ground bro.



lol are you serious dude? most people that weigh 200lbs cant squat their BW deep, never mind 2.5X's.

obviously your good at squatting and probably have never been 200lbs from the look of you in that picture. 200lbs lean and 300lbs and huuuge is a big difference bro. im not saying your fat or anything...but you have alot of extra bodyweight helping you get out of the hole you know what i mean. i just think your downplaying the difficulty and dedication it takes for someone to squat that kind of weight the right way. Most people arent 300lbs. dude, I struggle to maintain 210.

I think we are comparing apple to oranges here. I'm not a powerlifter. I don't use a PL stance, I don't wrap my knees, I don't wear a squat suit and I don't wear a belt. I have no idea how much I can squat with any or all of those things.

At 198 lbs. (right now, NO GEAR) I can do almost 2x BW ATG. Do I think I'm special? No. BUT, I do think my legs are pretty fuckin' strong for a guy that can also run 10k in 50mins, 5k in 20 mins and rep out sets of 25 pull-ups until the cows come home.
 
DaveTSI said:
ummm.. thats 1 guy, and thats you

guess you didnt look at the other guys profile huh lol :rolleyes:

and obviously ATG is just a figure of speech. Thats what we say when we mean as deep as possible, i dont think ive ever seen someone actually touch the ground bro.

lol are you serious dude? most people that weigh 200lbs cant squat their BW deep, never mind 2.5X's.

obviously your good at squatting and probably have never been 200lbs from the look of you in that picture. 200lbs lean and 300lbs and huuuge is a big difference bro. im not saying your fat or anything...but you have alot of extra bodyweight helping you get out of the hole you know what i mean. i just think your downplaying the difficulty and dedication it takes for someone to squat that kind of weight the right way. Most people arent 300lbs. dude, I struggle to maintain 210.

I didn't see the other guy's profile. I have some pictures of me doing a DEEP squat with 660 x 8 somewhere.

200 lbs? I began at 6'2", size 16 shoe, and 154 lbs. I've worked a long freaking time to get to 200, 240, 260, and have even been 305...all drug free.

Someone who is 200 lbs who can't squat their bodyweight just boggles me. I have a guy I'm working with who has been training legs for less than 2 months and I had him raw squatting 322 x 1 raw a couple weeks ago at a body weight of about 215.

Extra bodyweight? :) I know what you mean...my belly? I'm not a bodybuilder but I do have abs when I take my shirt off. I have just learned to really push my belly out when I squat to protect my back and to help me drive out of the hole. And 8 months of corticosteroids has totally screwed up the way that my skin looks (seriously harsh stuff on all parts of the body).

The struggle for weight gain is something that I know very much about. I forcefed for the last year and went from 285 to less than 240 and then finally touched 290 around the time of that picture (yeah, been very sick).

Squats are fun. They are meant to be fun and a place for the demons to come out. Like looking war straight in the face and your inner fight will determine if you win or lose.

Here are a few odds and ends pictures of me.

175 lbs, after gaining 21 lbs already.
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4th from the left, shooting a contest for EuroSport, 280 lbs or more.
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Me next to 308 lb Travis Ortmayer, 3x WSM competitor, top 10 in the World.
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DaveTSI said:
ummm.. thats 1 guy, and thats you

guess you didnt look at the other guys profile huh lol :rolleyes:

and obviously ATG is just a figure of speech. Thats what we say when we mean as deep as possible, i dont think ive ever seen someone actually touch the ground bro.



lol are you serious dude? most people that weigh 200lbs cant squat their BW deep, never mind 2.5X's.

obviously your good at squatting and probably have never been 200lbs from the look of you in that picture. 200lbs lean and 300lbs and huuuge is a big difference bro. im not saying your fat or anything...but you have alot of extra bodyweight helping you get out of the hole you know what i mean. i just think your downplaying the difficulty and dedication it takes for someone to squat that kind of weight the right way. Most people arent 300lbs. dude, I struggle to maintain 210.
wow are you serious?! you should reconsider your approach if you cannot squat body weight for reps. not trying to diss you but seriously, you should be able to do that at any bf%.

EDIT: damn! i misunderstood :o
so i have to rephrase that - those 200+ lbers who can't squat bodyweight for reps need to reconsider what they are doing, irrespective of bf.
 
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