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Finally turning to the dark side ( first cycle )

Your on the right lines with your ancillaries but Clomid only for pct will make you feel pretty shitty.. its old school but Clomid at low dose along with some unleashed, post cycle forma and DAA is a pretty solid pct..

Run hcg on cycle and in the 2weeks between the end of your cycle and pct but don't run hcg in pct..

How does this sound

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That sounds interesting. I will research all of what you've said to me when I get home.

Thanks for the advice fella
 
The shopping list grows; unleashed & DAA ordered.

So time for the abuse to start lol. How do I structure the PCT then?

Testosterone Cypionate 200mg Monday/Thursday for 12 weeks, forget about the Anavar. Run the unleashed and DAA as explained on the label.
 
First off don't call it "the dark side".

1-10 test E 500mg/wk
If you want to kick start it you can run Dbol 1-4 at 40mg Ed.

Aromasin 12.5mg eod 2wk after first pin.

Pct:
Post cycle
Unleashed (can get both from needtobuildmuscle or if they're out get from protein factory) take as directed on bottles

Daa powder or chews
Formastanzol (both from mrsupps) rub onto nips morning and night as directed.
 
Hi Craig,

Thanks for the response fella.

I've looked into this a fair bit and I'm liking the sound of Cyp or Prop.

I'm being honest with my diet and like I said; I quite literally have a couple of takeouts a month otherwise I'm clean as. Dropping the takeouts won't be an issue.

I have the resources and cash-flow to do it right.

Is there much of a difference between compounds?

Yes there is, prop has to be shot ED and is quite painful, Cypionate/or Ethanate can be injected once per week or split into 2 doses(mon-Thurs) for more stable blood levels and is mostly painless.
 
"FIRSTLY" Thanks for the response. Appreciated.

I will be running Cypionate over Enanthate, as I'm liking what I'm reading, and I'm leaning towards a 12 week cycle. I will have a look at Aromasin now.
 
Thanks Radar, I appreciate your time.

I'm leaning towards Cyp at the moment to be honest. There's quite a difference in opinion regarding the duration of the course?

This will sound stupid but would it be better to run a low dose for a longer period? 300-400 between 10-16 weeks. It's a f@&king mine field on the net lol
 
Thanks Radar, I appreciate your time.

I'm leaning towards Cyp at the moment to be honest. There's quite a difference in opinion regarding the duration of the course?

This will sound stupid but would it be better to run a low dose for a longer period? 300-400 between 10-16 weeks. It's a f@&king mine field on the net lol

Stick to 12weeks @ 400.. this is plenty for a 1st time.. the net is full of old threads when Clomid and nolva were pct for every cycle.. newer threads usually have a bit more upto date pcts depending on the site.. but at least your doing your research 1st before starting and not halfway through when you run into problems, so I applaud you for that..


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Cheers Fella, I'll give it a look now. A few people have mentioned formastanzol now. I'll research it a little and add it to the stash lol

Many Thanks
 
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