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test is crazy low / ony test cyp TRT still no libido

That's not a solution.

The problem can be in part psychological, which also can have a physiological effect on T levels. Triazole will lower estrogen, which can also affect libido. I say, go with a double dosing of UNLEASHED for a month. If that doesn't help, nothing will.

Lol nothing?
 
doctors don't know anything about AAS or pro hormones unless they are juicers themselves

this is what you do.

. follow what i write to a tee, please don't try and cut corners.. follow it exactly..

stop the test
start taking hcg 500iu's every 3-4 days for 2 weeks, then take it 1000iu's every 3-4 days for 2 more weeks. (find an online pharmacy that sells it)
take 2-3 hits of HMG spread out over the course of 1 week(online pharmacy)

then take the following together as i list
clomid 12.5mg a day for 3 weeks (chemical need.com)
hcgenerate 2 caps 2 caps per day until a bottle is gone (needtobuildmuscle.com)_

then take
unleashed with DAA.. finish the bottle and tub (needtobuildmuscle.com)

wait 2 weeks.. if you aren't feeling better then repeat the PCT all over again.

This is great advice. It covers everything, LH (hcg, hcgenerate), FSH (hmg), free test (unleashed), total test (clomid, hcgenerate)...

The PCT above is going to run you I'd say ~$400-$500. A big chunk of that cost coming from HMG, which is more expensive and challenging to obtain than everything else listed. I don't know how much pharma-grade test costs without insurance but I cannot imagine it is cheap. Please heed Steve's advice and run this PCT. It's worth a shot.

I would recommend full bloodwork 2-3 weeks after the PCT - lipids, liver, everything + estrogen, test, free test, fsh, lh, etc...post the results here.

Good luck bro
 
Here's how I read Steve's PCT, feel free to make corrections.

Steve, why only a week of hmg?

Step 1: Stop test cyp injections.
Day 1-14: HCG 500iu's every 3 days (search ef & Youtube for instructions on mixing and using HCG)
Day 15-28: HCG 1000iu's every 3 days
Day 14-21: HMG 75iu every other day
Day 21-42: clomid 12.5mg/ed
Day 21-: hcgenerate, unleashed, daa - until finished
 
ok my results are in and its not what i was hoping for...

total test is 884.

free test is 25

FSH is less than .1 and normal range is .7-11.1 (dont even know what that is)

CBC/Thyroid is "normal" whatever that may be.

Dont know if estrogen was on there but to me those #'s look great which is not what I was hoping for because now im totally lost. I still refuse to beleive that its mental, I feel like thats as if I walked into a hospital with bones sticking out of my skin and they tell me Im just thinking too much about it. If it was a fluke, or even maybe just a few weeks I could accept that it was in my head. But a fuckin year? And for this to happen out of the blue leaves me more puzzled. I am just reading these values from a picture mail off my phone so I may be missing something.

The only clue I have is I was on and off triazole when this started so thats what I keep coming back to. I think I might actually cry if I drop that much money on a PCT and it doesnt help.
 
ok my results are in and its not what i was hoping for...

total test is 884.

free test is 25

FSH is less than .1 and normal range is .7-11.1 (dont even know what that is)

CBC/Thyroid is "normal" whatever that may be.

Dont know if estrogen was on there but to me those #'s look great which is not what I was hoping for because now im totally lost. I still refuse to beleive that its mental, I feel like thats as if I walked into a hospital with bones sticking out of my skin and they tell me Im just thinking too much about it. If it was a fluke, or even maybe just a few weeks I could accept that it was in my head. But a fuckin year? And for this to happen out of the blue leaves me more puzzled. I am just reading these values from a picture mail off my phone so I may be missing something.

The only clue I have is I was on and off triazole when this started so thats what I keep coming back to. I think I might actually cry if I drop that much money on a PCT and it doesnt help.

You'll cry over $400? My estimate was on the high end, but if you spend $2,000/year on the 6 month implants x 60 that's $120,000+ you'll spend on trt for the rest of your life...and it's not even solving your problem! Your test is on the normal-high range now and you still have the same issue that led you to trt in the first place.

It's financially irresponsible NOT to try a good PCT.

It is possible you have low test + clinical erectile dysfunction. Let's try to solve the low test problem with a good PCT first and if the ED is still there, then there is always viagra or cialis.

We're here to support you bro, let us know what questions you have any people much smarter than me are happy to help. I urge you to keep an open mind and look at TRT as the last resort.
 
Most definitely, and with normal to high test levels the problem is still there??? So get off the TRT, run a good PCT like what Steve laid out and move on to the core of the problem. You now know its not your testosterone level......


You'll cry over $400? My estimate was on the high end, but if you spend $2,000/year on the 6 month implants x 60 that's $120,000+ you'll spend on trt for the rest of your life...and it's not even solving your problem! Your test is on the normal-high range now and you still have the same issue that led you to trt in the first place.

It's financially irresponsible NOT to try a good PCT.

It is possible you have low test + clinical erectile dysfunction. Let's try to solve the low test problem with a good PCT first and if the ED is still there, then there is always viagra or cialis.

We're here to support you bro, let us know what questions you have any people much smarter than me are happy to help. I urge you to keep an open mind and look at TRT as the last resort.
 
Here's how I read Steve's PCT, feel free to make corrections.

Steve, why only a week of hmg?

Step 1: Stop test cyp injections.
Day 1-14: HCG 500iu's every 3 days (search ef & Youtube for instructions on mixing and using HCG)
Day 15-28: HCG 1000iu's every 3 days
Day 14-21: HMG 75iu every other day
Day 21-42: clomid 12.5mg/ed
Day 21-: hcgenerate, unleashed, daa - until finished

each shot of HMG is gonna cost about 25 bucks.. so if he ran it longer than that it would be costly.. hcg is way cheaper after being constituted ... HMG should become cheaper in time I hope

that would work but i would run clomid and hcgenerate together.. then stack unleashed DAA by themselves to extend things further. HMG would only be 2-3 hits total because of the costs. running it the same week as he is running hcg so they are stacked together is a great weapon to wake up his LH
 
ok my results are in and its not what i was hoping for...

total test is 884.

free test is 25

FSH is less than .1 and normal range is .7-11.1 (dont even know what that is)

CBC/Thyroid is "normal" whatever that may be.

Dont know if estrogen was on there but to me those #'s look great which is not what I was hoping for because now im totally lost. I still refuse to beleive that its mental, I feel like thats as if I walked into a hospital with bones sticking out of my skin and they tell me Im just thinking too much about it. If it was a fluke, or even maybe just a few weeks I could accept that it was in my head. But a fuckin year? And for this to happen out of the blue leaves me more puzzled. I am just reading these values from a picture mail off my phone so I may be missing something.

The only clue I have is I was on and off triazole when this started so thats what I keep coming back to. I think I might actually cry if I drop that much money on a PCT and it doesnt help.

your bloods are exactly what I said they would be.. okay now we know your test is legit as I told you already. your FSH is pretty much at 0.. and your LH which you didn't tell us is probably near 0 as well.. meaning you are shutdown. totally normal results considering you are on test.

the PCT i laid out for you will work, I wouldn't of posted it if I wasn't confident that it wouldn't work. I was once suppressed hard after a deca cycle. my T was at 98 and I ran this exact PCT. afterwards my T went up to 400 and kept going higher.
 
Ok fellas I'm not discarding anyone's info here. I just don't want to be a walkin pharmacy. If a supplement has a shitty side effect I will feel it x10. Can I get some brand suggestions so I can't come back and say hey man it didn't work then hear "Maaaan you got THAT crap?!"

I'm curious to see if any of the urologists advice will match yours
 
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