Deca/sustanon cycle. Help!

[Big_noR]

I'm 26, been lifting since i'm 18. I'm 5'7; Weight: 178 lbs.
Did my first cycle of deca/sust last year and it was not a successful one- gained around 4lbs and lost them all a few months later.

Dosage was: Deca 50mg, Sustanon 250mg eow for 10 weeks.
Some of the experienced gear users advised me to do so.

Now, I'm planning on doing a second cycle of deca/sust, hoping to get a good gain. I just discussed that with the experienced users and they suggested me Deca 100 mg, Sustanon 250 mg eow.
What kind of gains can i expect from this cycle if nutrition, training is ok.

 

[Big_noR]

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[Big_noR]

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[gymjunkie09]

I'm 26, been lifting since i'm 18. I'm 5'7; Weight: 178 lbs.
Did my first cycle of deca/sust last year and it was not a successful one- gained around 4lbs and lost them all a few months later.

Dosage was: Deca 50mg, Sustanon 250mg eow for 10 weeks.
Some of the experienced gear users advised me to do so.

Now, I'm planning on doing a second cycle of deca/sust, hoping to get a good gain. I just discussed that with the experienced users and they suggested me Deca 100 mg, Sustanon 250 mg eow.
What kind of gains can i expect from this cycle if nutrition, training is ok.

Am I reading this right? you ran deca @50mg every other week?lol, whoever is giving you this advice it obviously not experienced. You've got a lot of research to do before you even think about running any type of gear.

 

[RADAR]

agree,Deca @ 50mg a wk ain't gonna do Sh*t!
Also with Sus alone you should have gained some quality muscle, sounds to me like your diet sucked, or you didn't have a good base for steroids!

 

[RADAR]

I'm 26, been lifting since i'm 18. I'm 5'7; Weight: 178 lbs.
Did my first cycle of deca/sust last year and it was not a successful one- gained around 4lbs and lost them all a few months later.

Dosage was: Deca 50mg, Sustanon 250mg eow for 10 weeks.
Some of the experienced gear users advised me to do so.

Now, I'm planning on doing a second cycle of deca/sust, hoping to get a good gain. I just discussed that with the experienced users and they suggested me Deca 100 mg, Sustanon 250 mg eow.
What kind of gains can i expect from this cycle if nutrition, training is ok.

listen to us not them, I have over 40 yrs in this field


I suggest running Sus at 500mg a wk
Deca at 300-400 wk run the test 12 wks deca 10
Ancillaries needed
Formastanazol (mr Supps) Needto 10 is your discount code\
PCT Unleashed /Post Cycle (ntbm) RADAR15 is your discount code
wouldn'thurt to have some Dostinex for the DEca is you're sensitive.
You should blow up on that cycle,remember Food is the most anabolic compound you can put in your body

 

[Big_noR]

Am I reading this right? you ran deca @50mg every other week?lol, whoever is giving you this advice it obviously not experienced. You've got a lot of research to do before you even think about running any type of gear.

I know 50mg, seems ridiculous. I did some research after and I saw the average dose for deca is 250mg eow. I did not know at that time, I just did what I was told. Stupid of me. That's why I am here now.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^drug profiles .. go there and read... learn... then come back and start thinking about a cycle

 

[Big_noR]

listen to us not them, I have over 40 yrs in this field


I suggest running Sus at 500mg a wk
Deca at 300-400 wk run the test 12 wks deca 10
Ancillaries needed
Formastanazol (mr Supps) Needto 10 is your discount code\
PCT Unleashed /Post Cycle (ntbm) RADAR15 is your discount code
wouldn'thurt to have some Dostinex for the DEca is you're sensitive.
You should blow up on that cycle,remember Food is the most anabolic compound you can put in your body

I agree I had a very bad diet.

I was thinking of running Sustanon at 500mg a week and Deca 250mg a week and I was discussing this with them yesterday and they told me this is way too high. I told them i read online the average dose for deca is 250mg and I thought 100mg is too low from what I read. They told me it's not like that in practical. They suggested me running Sustanon at 250 mg and Deca 100mg a week and that would give me great gains as they did it before. What do you think of that?

 

[Big_noR]

^^^drug profiles .. go there and read... learn... then come back and start thinking about a cycle

I read about the different drugs and I think I learnt a lot from the reading but 'The experienced users' are influencing my thoughts saying that what is written online is only in theory and does not actually work the same in practical. That's why I'm here asking for help...

 

[96banshee]

Hey Big, I ran sustanon 250 for my first cycle...... Did 500/wk... 250 mon and 250 Thursday. I gained around 20 lbs off it. Granted it was my first cycle...I'm no pro, still learning .... but I wouldn't run it less than 500/wk. You might gain a few lbs off 250/wk but in my opinion you'd be wasting valuable time and money.

 

[gymjunkie09]

listen to us not them, I have over 40 yrs in this field


I suggest running Sus at 500mg a wk
Deca at 300-400 wk run the test 12 wks deca 10
Ancillaries needed
Formastanazol (mr Supps) Needto 10 is your discount code\
PCT Unleashed /Post Cycle (ntbm) RADAR15 is your discount code
wouldn'thurt to have some Dostinex for the DEca is you're sensitive.
You should blow up on that cycle,remember Food is the most anabolic compound you can put in your body

bingo! kickstart this with beastdrol and you will blow the f#@k up with proper diet and training of course

dont forget n2guard...

 

[Warendbzgt]

I just finished a 16 week Deca 100mg / Sus 250mg. Took a shot every 4 days. It took about 8 weeks to work proparly. Was more then enough for me. Gained 24lbs. Probably gonna lose alot of it now. But is is a good beginers cycle. Next cycle is a 10 week Deca 300mg/ Sus 250mg.

 

[Big_noR]

Hey Big, I ran sustanon 250 for my first cycle...... Did 500/wk... 250 mon and 250 Thursday. I gained around 20 lbs off it. Granted it was my first cycle...I'm no pro, still learning .... but I wouldn't run it less than 500/wk. You might gain a few lbs off 250/wk but in my opinion you'd be wasting valuable time and money.

How much of your gain did you keep?

 

[96banshee]

Unfortunately big I listened to the "experienced guys" that thought they knew what they were doing. Not one of them even mentioned the word PCT. Didnt keep my gains for long but I felt like a beast while I was on it. Thankfully I came across EF. Now I'm getting back on the right track WITH PCT and all. Listen to these guys and they'll set ya straight. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[snorkles]

I'm 26, been lifting since i'm 18. I'm 5'7; Weight: 178 lbs.
Did my first cycle of deca/sust last year and it was not a successful one- gained around 4lbs and lost them all a few months later.

so you have been lifting for 8 years and dont know how to gain size on test and deca?? loooool you must be a total fail then mate sorry for the bashing

 

[Big_noR]

so you have been lifting for 8 years and dont know how to gain size on test and deca?? loooool you must be a total fail then mate sorry for the bashing

Sorry, but that's nonsense. I don't see the relation between lifting 8 years and how to gain size on test and deca. That's only going to be my 2nd cycle. If you're not here to give some advice, then don't say anything. Stop being a bitch in heat, trying to get some attention.

 

[RADAR]

so you have been lifting for 8 years and dont know how to gain size on test and deca?? loooool you must be a total fail then mate sorry for the bashing

Play nice ,...you're just begging for an infraction

 

[Big_noR]

listen to us not them, I have over 40 yrs in this field


I suggest running Sus at 500mg a wk
Deca at 300-400 wk run the test 12 wks deca 10
Ancillaries needed
Formastanazol (mr Supps) Needto 10 is your discount code\
PCT Unleashed /Post Cycle (ntbm) RADAR15 is your discount code
wouldn'thurt to have some Dostinex for the DEca is you're sensitive.
You should blow up on that cycle,remember Food is the most anabolic compound you can put in your body

Finally, i'm getting only 6 deca- would be useless.
RADAR, what do you think of 500mg sustanon 10 wks and dbol 30mg eod 4-5 weeks?
PCT?

 

[sexpest]

Sounds like a good beginner cycle. Dbol will help withing the first half of tje cycle.

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[rambomd1]

agree,Deca @ 50mg a wk ain't gonna do Sh*t!
Also with Sus alone you should have gained some quality muscle, sounds to me like your diet sucked, or you didn't have a good base for steroids!

Listen , u r mod that does not mean u can give shity advice n can get away wit it. susta for quality muscle gain ? lol ,stfu. susta is only for mental health ,libido and agresive in the gym. test is not a good muscle builder mr mod..specialy high dose long ester.. it blows ur body and face in a bad way..it uglifies the face, if it were good muscle builder than deca ,wini ,oxano would not exist. use test prop 100 mg ever every 3rd day if u dnt want to ruin ur body n look like fuckd up pig. even 500 mg
susta per week for few week can ruin ur body for months. the less test u use ,the better your muscle will look. use only minimum.and short ester. otherwise u wil regret using high dose long ester. and yes 500 mg susta can fuk u big time if pron.

 

[ishaq]

lol at the tit above test isnt a good muscle builder hahahaha,

1-10 500mg sust
1-4 30mg dbol
absolutely fine mate great 2nd or 3rd cycle even, your apetite will increase your lifts will go up and if you train hard and lift heavy you'll put on a good few pounds but this all comes down to you mate! your training,your diet and your dedication! i havent included a pct i think thats already been addressed and as me being from the uk its easier for me to use the older clomid etc pct, but am quite confident the mix of need2's gear is more then adequate to allow you to keep your gains, good luck mate

 

[Big_noR]

Any more advice anyone?

 

[Zoofus]

I keep seeing EOW and EOD in your posts. If you mean every other week and every other day then you have some issues:

Test with long ester should be dosed 1 to 2x each week preferably 2x for more stable levels. With sust having long and short esters splitting into 2 to 3 dosings per week is advisable but 2x will be fine. For the record deca should be 1 to 2x per week also but is slightly longer so 1x is okay.

dbol is very short acting and you want to take every day and optimally split dosages into 2-3 evenly spaced increments.

Maybe someone already went over this but I saw your first post with EOW and later a reference to dbol EOD hence this clarification.

 

[Hit_the_weightS]

Listen , u r mod that does not mean u can give shity advice n can get away wit it. susta for quality muscle gain ? lol ,stfu. susta is only for mental health ,libido and agresive in the gym. test is not a good muscle builder mr mod..specialy high dose long ester.. it blows ur body and face in a bad way..it uglifies the face, if it were good muscle builder than deca ,wini ,oxano would not exist. use test prop 100 mg ever every 3rd day if u dnt want to ruin ur body n look like fuckd up pig. even 500 mg
susta per week for few week can ruin ur body for months. the less test u use ,the better your muscle will look. use only minimum.and short ester. otherwise u wil regret using high dose long ester. and yes 500 mg susta can fuk u big time if pron.

Unbelievable reply!
I done a dbol/sust/deca cycle over the summer and gained around 22lbs all nice muscle gains. My strength increased drastically so much so people I see in the gym even noticed which was a fantastic feeling.
I ran it at 2ml sust ew 1ml deca ew and 25mg dbol ed, I actually ran the dbol for8 weeks as I enjoyed the feeling I got from them by taking them with a meal 1 hour before gym. Pct was hcg, cloud, hcgen, post cycle/unleashed combo and forma stanzol. And no word of a lie I didn't lose strength or size using this pct on top of a good diet and training regime. I've just finished doing the warrior diet and am getting ready for my second cycle in January. Bro listen to guys like radar on here their advice is golden.
Good luck on your cycle and keep a log of you can here on EF

 

[Hit_the_weightS]

Btw 2 sust shots a week one of which mixed in the same vile with the deca shot. So that was 1ml sust 1ml deca on a Tuesday and 1ml sust only on a saturday.