So I know this sounds like one of those cliche posts because I'm asking for a friend but in reality I'm asking for self. It's not. I'm already on cycle and don't needa fake it. Well my buddy did a "cycle" for 57 weeks. So more of a cruise I guess and did no pct. got injurd and had surgery. Now he jumped back on at 2cc test e and 1 cc sust a week with 50mg dbol (daily) and 20mg beast (daily)with no liver support. I try telling him he's taking too much and advise him what he should do but he stubborn he's not gunna do any pct cause says don't. Need it cause won't lose much and that don't need liver shop cause his liver don't hurt. What can I say to him to make or at least help him realize what he's doin is hurting more than helping especially without OCT AND PCT lined up Any input is appreciated fellas.