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First cycle...obvious questions and an easy read

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I am pretty commited to doing a light cycle. Nothing too fancy just getting my feet wet. I would like to get up to 170 at 10%BF.

Age: 27
Weight: 155
Height: 5'10''
BF%: 10% maybe a bit less
History: I have been lifting for 2 years and do a good bit of endurance cardio. For the cycle I will still be doing this cardio but at a decreased level of intensity and I will obviously be compensating with diet.
Diet: Right now I am cutting for that summer poon' so I am ~1800-2k a day (cardio related nutrition not counted) with a 50 pro/30 car/ 20fat macro breakdown. While on cycle I plan on doing 2800-3k calories at a similar macro level.
Routine: I will be attempting to do a Layne Norton style PHAT routine with maybe a few small augmentations so I am not in the gym for 3 hours a day!

I have found a pre-designed stack that seems to be a good fit. I am slightly needle hesitant but am ok with giving it a try. My friends that are 'aware' of this stuff tell me that orals are a waste, I am unsure if that is accurate.

General thoughts on this?

Items included: 2 **********
GP Test Cyp 250, 2 x ******** Methan10, 2 x ******** Anastrozole

Cycle Length and layout:
Length 10 weeks
Weeks 1-4 ***** Methan10 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg ****** Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 ****** Anastrozole .5 mg per day (continue to run this for 10 days after cycle)
 
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On another note I already have a case of gyno and this makes me hesitant. I will have some anti estrogens on hand as well to prevent any issues.
 
edit that post. read the rules.
 
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you need to learn how to add muscle to your frame naturally before adding roids. plain and simple. find a diet you can stick to that will help you gain muscle while training hard naturally. Stick to it for a bunch of months and see if it is working then re think the roids issue.
 
You're cutting at 5'10" and 155?

155-160 range right now. I am at the tail end for now.

I have come up from 135 to 175. I see no problem with losing some flab for the summer. I have no desire to ever be over 185. I do an endurance sport and "too much mass" is a concern.

I am in no way frail or 'skinny'

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take out space. I don't have 25 posts yet.
 
ok now that the post is edited...

you need to learn how to add muscle to your frame naturally before adding roids. plain and simple. find a diet you can stick to that will help you gain muscle while training hard naturally. Stick to it for a bunch of months and see if it is working then re think the roids issue.

Judo I understand your points.

To counterpoint:
I am very knowledgeable of dieting and natural muscle gains. I have been few a couple of bulking phases and have had decent gains. I know you guys run into a lot of morons on here that are just trying to get ripped in a short amount of time, I don't believe I fall into that category.

Also to note; the cycle I am attempting is very very mild.

I respect your opinion as you seem to be well versed. I will take it into consideration.
 
I am pretty commited to doing a light cycle. Nothing too fancy just getting my feet wet. I would like to get up to 170 at 10%BF.

Age: 27
Weight: 155
Height: 5'10''
BF%: 10% maybe a bit less
History: I have been lifting for 2 years and do a good bit of endurance cardio. For the cycle I will still be doing this cardio but at a decreased level of intensity and I will obviously be compensating with diet.
Diet: Right now I am cutting for that summer poon' so I am ~1800-2k a day (cardio related nutrition not counted) with a 50 pro/30 car/ 20fat macro breakdown. While on cycle I plan on doing 2800-3k calories at a similar macro level.
Routine: I will be attempting to do a Layne Norton style PHAT routine with maybe a few small augmentations so I am not in the gym for 3 hours a day!

I have found a pre-designed stack that seems to be a good fit. I am slightly needle hesitant but am ok with giving it a try. My friends that are 'aware' of this stuff tell me that orals are a waste, I am unsure if that is accurate.

General thoughts on this?

Items included: 2 **********
GP Test Cyp 250, 2 x ******** Methan10, 2 x ******** Anastrozole

Cycle Length and layout:
Length 10 weeks
Weeks 1-4 ***** Methan10 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg ****** Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 ****** Anastrozole .5 mg per day (continue to run this for 10 days after cycle)




I'll Say it Again,for the 1000th Time-ORALS ARE NOT A WASTE!!! it's a steroid just like everything else gezzz! They get a bad rap because most don't know how to use them for keepable gains.

Whats your PCT gonna be like?
I would get unleashed,HCGenerate, and some phyroserms 347 that should finish it off,
 
ok now that the post is edited...

you need to learn how to add muscle to your frame naturally before adding roids. plain and simple. find a diet you can stick to that will help you gain muscle while training hard naturally. Stick to it for a bunch of months and see if it is working then re think the roids issue.

I also agree with this 100%, I would change up into a different routine,and Blast until your hands are sore and you feel weak in the knees,the workouts should be aimed at hi intensity and should last no longer than 45min to an hr at most!
also as Judo Tom said diet is over 1/2 the battle.
 
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