it was free (sorta)...i take care of shit for him, he takes care of shit for me...i was due for a new machine, he got it in back in march (i think), but i've been too friggin busy to swap-out...thanks to you, the old one needed a good douching so we swapped them today...he'll clean the old one and reinstall the all the basic software (microsoft office, etc.) then i'll swap it with my wife's old one and she'll have a new (slightly used) machine that will be a lot faster than the one she has now...heck, i'll probably get some extra seggz for it...thanks, buddy