Man I know its gotta be dissapointing to get interested in steroids, decide that its a great solution... then have a bunch of people tell you something you DO NOT want to hear... that you need to do what your doing, better, before you go for backup!! But the truth is, if you listen to the people on this forum that want to help you, you'll learn a ton in no time. From nutrition advice, to lifting advice, and finally help with selecting and dosing steroids, you will have plenty of help and support along the way... but trust me, take the advice when its given! I know the temptation is there to say fuck it, grab a couple bottles of test from someone, tell everyone on the boards your not, and start on it... but think of it like an engine, do you want to add a bunch of performance parts to an old beat up motor with 150xxx on it thats leaking and isnt making enough power as it is, or do you want to rebuild that engine first, get a solid ass base, then build it up till its ripping the bolts through the wheels when you take off?!? Thats what you get by dialing in your diet and routine BEFORE you start the juice. Feel free to PM me for help with nutrition, etc if you have questions, or any of the mods, etc. There are a ton of people on here to help you, and when its time for the steroids, the help will be there for that too!