in the year 2012 to not run hcg to kickstart ur pct is a huge waste... hcg tricks ur body into boosting lh, its definately a must on any injectable cycle... it will speed up recovery so u keep more gains and its not expensive at all ... dont listen to ur buddies... i mod 2 fitness sites bro and ive heard the buddy thing a mill times .. u will get urself into trouble with that mentality