Primobolan is the best steroid ever made. I have done four cycles at 200mg/week for 10 weeks and went from 165 to currently 215 pounds and just had bodyfat checked at 7%. And I have never had to use clomid and have had absolutely no side effects. All these guys on here are always yapping about test and fina and whatever but if they would have started slow with something like this they wouldn't have to use those drugs. what are you looking to do with steroids anyway. In two more cycles I will look pretty close to arnold since I am 6"1'.