Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 7 weeks ago I decided to come off a 6 month cycle of test e and tren e. I am getting married soon and want to have children in the future. Today I went to the urologist and he said he didnt see any sperm in my sample. He didnt prescibe me anything and told me to come back next month with another sample.. He said there is a 90% chance my sperm will eventually return with time. Im paranoid that it may never come back. Has anyone gone through this situation? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Zero sperm after 6 month cycle
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RADAR
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6 months of tren? Holy Hell !!! I ran 4 months and it took me over a year & a half before my sex drive returned,ain't no PCT in the world gonna help you at the moment ,of course you may be one of the lucky ones due to being much younger than me so that may work to your advantage.I would do a good PCT (clomid,HCGenerate,unleashed, Forma stanazol)evaluate and in a few weeks re-evaluate.
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Im 27. All I did for PCT was Aromasin and ZMA. How long does sperm usualy take to come back after tren? thanks.
no idea bro. I only run 2 month cycles and i recover fine after time off. dunno if anyone on here has ever run tren 6 months like that to answer this question??? i think bloke has cruised on tren, maybe he will chime in later.
do you have any libido? how are your nuts? did they turn to raisins and then plump back after that pct you ran?
like RADAR said you are gonna have to run an aggressive PCT. i would run hcg, hmg, clomid, natty supps he listed... the works. heck you might even run all 3 together and throw the kitchen sink at the problem. and then do another sperm test to see if you are doing anything to rectify the problem.
your uro you are seeing is clueless on AAS 99% of the time, you need to see an endo who has knowledge of this situation. its gonna take a while but a strong PCT should speed things up. i wish you could just run tren for 6 months and then not be able to have kids, I think that would be much easier to do then have an operation LOL. unfortunately mother nature doesn't work like that.
do you have any libido? how are your nuts? did they turn to raisins and then plump back after that pct you ran?
like RADAR said you are gonna have to run an aggressive PCT. i would run hcg, hmg, clomid, natty supps he listed... the works. heck you might even run all 3 together and throw the kitchen sink at the problem. and then do another sperm test to see if you are doing anything to rectify the problem.
your uro you are seeing is clueless on AAS 99% of the time, you need to see an endo who has knowledge of this situation. its gonna take a while but a strong PCT should speed things up. i wish you could just run tren for 6 months and then not be able to have kids, I think that would be much easier to do then have an operation LOL. unfortunately mother nature doesn't work like that.
My libibo is up and down. Some days is extremely high and others its not-existant. My nuts have come back a little but still shrunken, as the doctor pointed out today. Im gonna look for sources for good PCT. I just hope the damage isnt perminant. Also the Doc told me to get bloodwork to get my levels tested.
Stryker1992
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What were your doses?
Stryker1992
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Also add E-Control from Ironmag Supplements. Good product that helps with PCT....
My doses were minimum. 250mg of each weekly.
dave: come on man.. you gotta help the guy out more then that.
i remember you said you ran a 9 month cycle yourself and had zero sperm count.. how did u recover? and what are your counts today?
help the dude out
I'm the opposite of his situation, I would love my sperm count to be zero.... so i am curious myself.
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EarthRider
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So your saying if I run tren for 6 months I won't have any sperm, huh, please tell me more (lol), wait I should be saying "What were you thinking" So please tell me more about this cycle that eliminates sperm. 4 years of mariage and two slip ups with no protection brings two kids means, oh shit
Yea, I dunno what to think about that, id say the mother has a lot more impact that some guy using AAS.
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EarthRider
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SO now what your saying is I would have no more kids, and I also wouldn't think about sex all day, huh, tell me more about this cycle. I am really interested.
hell the next step is to just go on tren for the rest of your life and swear off sex. now that would be one obsessed bodybuilder right there
I didnt exactly run a cycle, i was on 100mg/wk of TCyp since i had low test levels. Thats much different than slamming tren for 6 months.
Endo doc told me theres nothing to be done but wait and see what happens. Which reminds me i need to get my sperm and test checked. Test levels are probably ok by now but gotta check everything.
bigb797977
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I have been on TRT for years and my wife and I thought about having another kid, but when I asked my endocrinologist he said "your not going to get anyone pregnant on testosterone". He suggested high doeses of HCG and it could take up to a year on it to get my sperm back.
He actually pulled out this ring of different size wooden balls like a ring sizer but for testicles and compared mine to a few until he found one that matched. It was hilarious.
He actually pulled out this ring of different size wooden balls like a ring sizer but for testicles and compared mine to a few until he found one that matched. It was hilarious.
believe it or not test cyp will cause a severe shutdown. people think tren and deca are the only things that shut you down.. any AAS will shut you down. deca just takes a long time for the esthers to clear. thats why i preach people limit cycles to 8-10 weeks. and tren should be limited to 6-8 weeks.
I am very curious about your results, so make sure you check back in. what kind of PCT did u run?
RADAR
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bunch of doom and gloom in here. You will most likely be alright.
Weeks 1-3:
1500 IU HCG 3 times week
100mg Clomid every day
20mg Nolvadex every day
25mg Aromasin every day
Weeks 4-6:
50mg Clomid ed
20mg Nolvadex ed
12.5mg Aromasin ed
Add Phytoserms 347 at recommended daily dose
Add D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) at 1.5 grams twice a day
Recheck sperm at end of 6 weeks
Weeks 7-10:
continue Phytoserms 347
continue DAA
Recheck sperm at end of 10 weeks
You should make sure you're getting plenty of good fats (fish oil (RLS has a krill oil supp that's awesome) is best, EVOO, grapeseed oil, flax oil). Make sure you're taking a good multi and getting plenty of (but not too much) Zinc.
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Weeks 1-3:
1500 IU HCG 3 times week
100mg Clomid every day
20mg Nolvadex every day
25mg Aromasin every day
Weeks 4-6:
50mg Clomid ed
20mg Nolvadex ed
12.5mg Aromasin ed
Add Phytoserms 347 at recommended daily dose
Add D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) at 1.5 grams twice a day
Recheck sperm at end of 6 weeks
Weeks 7-10:
continue Phytoserms 347
continue DAA
Recheck sperm at end of 10 weeks
You should make sure you're getting plenty of good fats (fish oil (RLS has a krill oil supp that's awesome) is best, EVOO, grapeseed oil, flax oil). Make sure you're taking a good multi and getting plenty of (but not too much) Zinc.
www.drugsprofiles.com
www.needtobuildmuscle.com
www.orbitnutrition.com
www.rlssupplements.com
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Yes i know cyp can cause shutdown i just didt think it would happen at that dose or time length. Only pct was hcg for 3 weeks after last pin
well, I doubt your doc will prescribe you all those drugs or that regimen. Docs tend to start off with the lowest doses and most conservative treatments. At the rate they will proceed, you could take a year or more to recover. You'd do just as well recovering naturally!
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^^^^agreed.
docs don't care that you want the big guy working again ASAP. they will give you a drug and say come back in 2 weeks.. and keep saying "you will feel it" after a year you do and he is proclaimed a genius. that after 50 visits. in the process you put his brat through a semester of private school.
i've got a drawer of tamiflu and zpak. no more trips to the doc for an infection of the flu. if more and more people did that docs wouldn't be so stuckup.. maybe they would actually spend time on a patient.
docs don't care that you want the big guy working again ASAP. they will give you a drug and say come back in 2 weeks.. and keep saying "you will feel it" after a year you do and he is proclaimed a genius. that after 50 visits. in the process you put his brat through a semester of private school.
i've got a drawer of tamiflu and zpak. no more trips to the doc for an infection of the flu. if more and more people did that docs wouldn't be so stuckup.. maybe they would actually spend time on a patient.
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bringingthewood
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Hey bro, this probably isn't the issue, but just shooting darts.. another thing that most people don't think about is that if you travel and use your laptop directly on your lap, the radiation kills your sperm. No clue if this helps, but like I said, it's a shot in the dark for you or anyone reading it. It's just a little known fact that does affect the sperm count.
My wife and I are trying to get pregnant too, I am taking sperman forte because I read it helps quality of sperm.
Will Sarms osta 4 or the other sarms affect sperm count if I am taking it?
Doc gave HCG and I am taking PCT from needto as well as the post cycle stack, I would get HCgenerate but its been out of stock? Anyone know about the sarms s4?
Will Sarms osta 4 or the other sarms affect sperm count if I am taking it?
Doc gave HCG and I am taking PCT from needto as well as the post cycle stack, I would get HCgenerate but its been out of stock? Anyone know about the sarms s4?
after a vasectomy reversal that was effective for 22 yrs
Mine was back to 100k = men's clinic says.. that's good..
however the wife's fertility doc said.. that's basically sterile and wont get anyone prego with that.
I did 500iu hcg 2x week 1 month and 50mg Clomid
my sperm count went to 400,000,000
and yes she got prego..
the issue becomes Clomid cannot be prescribed to a male for infertility.. idiots, thank goodness for the internet..
Mine was back to 100k = men's clinic says.. that's good..
however the wife's fertility doc said.. that's basically sterile and wont get anyone prego with that.
I did 500iu hcg 2x week 1 month and 50mg Clomid
my sperm count went to 400,000,000
and yes she got prego..
the issue becomes Clomid cannot be prescribed to a male for infertility.. idiots, thank goodness for the internet..
bringingthewood
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Study: Laptops Lower Sperm Count - CBS News Video if CBS News is quoting it, there def could be something to it.
Also, I personally heard of a guy that was having issues, he stopped using the laptop and poof, he was good to go.
Obviously all of us use computers. Just something I was throwing out there...
yes man. happens all the time.
if it was that simple people wouldn't have vasect's.. could just run a long cycle and send your sperm count to zero on purpose and never have to worry about having kids again.
i wish it was that easy, i don't ever want to have kids
no we have not..
he sounds like a freakin genius this doctor. did he really expect you to be in range coming off a wreckless and long tren cycle and you've only been off 4 weeks.. YES FOUR WEEKS. the testosterone esthers stuck in your body for 3 weeks and the tren E stayed for 8 days. that is pretty damn good if you ask me.
now you need to run another PCT immediately. your original PCT was weak. run HCG, HMG, Clomid. in that order. and run it for 6 weeks.
i'm surprised you are even at 110 to be honest with you.
or you can run no PCT and just lolligag for the next few months and hope you recover. the choice is yours
I will be ordering HCG tomarrow. Can someone give me a beginers guide?
Can I use the same size syringe as used with gear?
I sometimes read that it needs to be mixed, is this nessesary with the HCG I will purchase from the suggested sponsor?
Where and how do I inject?
I also considered HMG but it seems very pricey.
Can I use the same size syringe as used with gear?
I sometimes read that it needs to be mixed, is this nessesary with the HCG I will purchase from the suggested sponsor?
Where and how do I inject?
I also considered HMG but it seems very pricey.
Same boat. I ran my first and only, for now, cycle. Listened to a friend and did very little research until after the fact. I know I'm a idiot. Cycle was 3 weeks prop 350 a week. Next 6 weeks 350 prop and 350 tren a. Last 3 weeks 350 prop. Have to say was in love with prop but tren not so much. I have been off for 4 months and just had sperm checked and had an exam. The finger and fondle. Dr gave the works. Talk about violated. Anyway everything looked good until he put my sperm under a microscope. He said there's no way I'm getting anyone pregnant with that sperm. My pct was a month of 100mg clomid and hcgenerate. Then 50mg clomid a day along with hcgenerate continued. I thought all is well but guess not. I'm trying to find a legit source for hcg as well as clomid currently and plan on another pct for my next visit which is in a month. I have a legit source for clomid but Jesus these people are worse than car salesman and bill collectors combined. Anyone need clomid here's the # 404-692-5707 beware as once your up for scrip re up they will call day after day some time twice a day. Royal pain. Any help would be appreciated
Well after that debacle of a cycle it is a wonder you have any sex drive ever. I have two pieces of advice. First is to see a board certified endocrinologist.....family doc won't cut it. Second, Get a ton of HCG and learn how to use it properly. Only a very small amount is needed but you must use it daily. Otherwise, you will be on TRT for lifetime....I see this often and I really hate it when young guys use tren like this
I'm 37. Feel pretty stupid admitting that as I usually research everything I get involved with. Sex drive has before, while on and off been great. I guess I just trusted in a smart life long friend. Apparently what he thinks compared to the rest of the bro science world is completely different. What dose daily of hcg do you recommend?
mostly the hcg is sold in 5000 iu. I would try to save some money and find some 2000iu bottles. If u dilute it to 3cc with sterile saline then you only need .5cc or less per day. Most people take the whole thing at once which does virtually nothing. I would buy 6-8 bottles and use that over a 6-8 week period. That will stimulate the leydig cells to produce sperm.
Yea bro that sucks everyone is different...
I was on test prop 300 mg tren ace 250 and mast p 400 mg for a wile and right when I got off and went back on Trt I got my wife preg
Guess I have super sperm cuz holy cow I felt my boys shrink quite a bit and right after cycle i mean like a week I got her preg
I was on test prop 300 mg tren ace 250 and mast p 400 mg for a wile and right when I got off and went back on Trt I got my wife preg
Guess I have super sperm cuz holy cow I felt my boys shrink quite a bit and right after cycle i mean like a week I got her preg
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