zane vs arnold

[al420]

I dunno YG - ZAne looks pretty diced in some pics I have seen - but no one really knows and really who cares - they aren;t testing BF on stage, just apperance.

IMO Zane had the look. And for that matter Serge had the best look - to this day I would rather look like Serge that almost anyone.

Victor Martinez is who I think has the most to offer now...

 

[youngguns]

I dunno YG - ZAne looks pretty diced in some pics I have seen - but no one really knows and really who cares - they aren;t testing BF on stage, just apperance.

IMO Zane had the look. And for that matter Serge had the best look - to this day I would rather look like Serge that almost anyone.

Victor Martinez is who I think has the most to offer now...

I agree Victor looks amazing, I have seen him working out in vids, it seems like he does the GAYEST workouts. Phil Heath, Dexter Jackson, David Henry, what do you think about them?

 

[RottenWillow]

a question about the two..

arnold was 6'2 235lbs 6% bf at his best
zane was 5'9 180lbs 4% bf at his best

You got Frank's height right, but that weight is off by about 15-18lbs. In peak form he was in the mid to upper 190's. I agree with your bf estimate thought. He set the bar for leaness for about 5 years or so. Not until Danny Padilla was anyone leaner.

Frank was a little guy though, no doubt. I'll link some of those pics I posted of him at the '72 Mr. 0. He ribcage is pretty flat and his hips are tiny. Just not a big man at all.

EDIT: Scroll to post 6 for the Zane pics

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532329

 

[thelion2005]

I attended the O in Cleveland when Zane finally won. Arnold ran the contest.

In my opinion ... Arnold had this personality and was so overbearing he simply owned the contests. Notice that his buddy Columbo won next?

Zane had to shut up and wait his turn.

 

[chazk]

I am hearing some great replies..

except frank not winning a novice show nowadays...

Went to the tampa classic last year and frank would have won the show overall if you take his 1981 physic and warped it to june of 2006 and put him on that stage. His symetry would be unmatched.

 

[jacshelb]

The original comment about Zane not being able to win a novice show is ignorant. If you've been to actual competitions or competed you'd see that Zane would usually whip most competitors in a lot of shows today. Watch at a regional show and you'll see some 5'9" guy come in ripped and dry at 175 and take the whole thing often times. Truth be told, there were competitions where Zane was more lean than others, but he set the standard in his day. And, in my opinion, you can't get much more lean than he was at his absolute best. Great conditioning is great conditioning. He has said himself that he weighed 178 in 1977 and 198 or so in 1979. The photos of him in 79 are inspiring. For a man with that light of a bone structure, 198 ripped pounds is not light!

That's something to consider about Arnold too, bone structure. I don't think Arnold was meant to be some huge guy, but he packed on lots of muscle. That's why he looked like he weighed 255 at 240. He had the muscle mass, but on a more ectomorphic frame, kind of like Flex Wheeler but not so much.


Jacob

 

[youngguns]

Frank Zane: 4%?

David Henry:1%?

 

[chazk]

Frank Zane: 4%?

David Henry:1%?

that not the best of zane... henery looks around 4%

being that young guns is turning this thread to be about him bceuase he needs attention like kids do I have 17 inch arms I am big as zane= bullshit

young guns your around 20% bf no where near zanes 4%
you need to lose around 25lbs of fat and build 25lbs of muscle to get to anything similar to a zane look and that only at 185lbs not zanes later build at 198lbs
alot of yours is baby fat..and will go away when you reach maturity

 

[solidspine]

When Arnold is on stage, he just commands your attention, remember him and Colombo?

Colombo was in great condition, but he is 5’5”, Arnold just looked better.


Height in this world is critical in everything.

 

[youngguns]

that not the best of zane... henery looks around 4%

being that young guns is turning this thread to be about him bceuase he needs attention like kids do I have 17 inch arms I am big as zane= bullshit

young guns your around 20% bf no where near zanes 4%
you need to lose around 25lbs of fat and build 25lbs of muscle to get to anything similar to a zane look and that only at 185lbs not zanes later build at 198lbs
alot of yours is baby fat..and will go away when you reach maturity

You are very wrong. I am about 17%, so I have exactly 34 pounds of fat on me, if I lost 20lbs I would be 6%, where Zane is. That would make me 180pounds. I am also shorter so it would look very close. He was like 35? Juiced? I'm 19, natty? For Olympia, NOT VERY GOOD.