Your feelings about Chat & Conv forum in general...

[patsfan1379]

Then deleting posts that provide peer-reviewed research contradicting claims by the said sponsor.

And getting kickbacks for the additional business they bring in.

 

[AAP]

I'd say mods hawking sponsors products is pretty biased. LOL.

I don't hawk products or sponsors.

I will admit that I support AG Guys and one other simply because IT WORKS. That's all. I am not telling you that there is not anything else out there just as good (because I haven't tried others) but I will tell you that it definately worked for me.

I have been here, what?, six years and only spoke up regarding two products that I liked. That's not a bad record.

As a matter of fact there are sponsors/products here that I vehemently dislike and would never recommend them.

If you notice someone - mod or not - being biased towards one product, that should be a clue not to seek out their opinion but rather ask someone else.

 

[redguru]

I don't hawk products or sponsors.

I will admit that I support AG Guys and one other simply because IT WORKS. That's all. I am not telling you that there is not anything else out there just as good (because I haven't tried others) but I will tell you that it definately worked for me.

I have been here, what?, six years and only spoke up regarding two products that I liked. That's not a bad record.

As a matter of fact there are sponsors/products here that I vehemently dislike and would never recommend them.

If you notice someone - mod or not - being biased towards one product, that should be a clue not to seek out their opinion but rather ask someone else.

And that is why I respect your opinion in that regard.

 

[musclemom]

Guys,

I have been looking at some of the thread posted on here today, and noticed that little by little decency is escaping this forum and being replaced with outrageousness. Its seems more and more like people are posting for "shock value" over giving legitimate opinions or making a good argument...

What do you think? Would you like to see Chat be more about civilized conversation and exchanging of opinions with a humorous edge? Or do you like the fact members are allowed to "shock" us with their outrageousness and entertain us with their insults?

Please discuss...

The "shock" effect wears out, in that the people who are doing it get bored with it sooner or later, or the community brings them into line themselves ... and let's face it, once in a while even the most gentile of us like something salacious.

C&C runs through cycles, it's more active in the winter months with people indoors and bulking but IMO if you start too much censorship you're going to smother it and the community will stop working.

One of the reasons most of us are here is because we're treated like grownups, not like a bunch of little kids with a bunch of rules to follow.

Just my $0.02.

 

[LuluDeren]

I know of one successful working model for a 'fight club' forum. The site's administrator allows a no-hold's barred environment (but obviously NOT posting illegal content) within said forum, scolds whiners who enter and advises them to back out slowly, but also bans members who choose to carry a fight club thread onto the general boards. Seems to work fine, sure the fight forum forges enemies which tend to spill onto other parts of the site, but as said, the adminstrator/mods then offer the offendents a probation or permanant ban.

 

[digger]

Then deleting posts that provide peer-reviewed research contradicting claims by the said sponsor.

You say "peer-reviewed," I say "cut-and-paste."

When you have another board out there actively bribing people to come here and make trouble, well, there's not much point in pretending that's a real discussion. Personally, I was hoping to keep it right where it was, and let Primordial respond to it at length... because if Macro had a failing, it was refusing to let the other side present their case. I was sorry to see that thread recycled. But I also don't routinely overrule the A-board mods.

That's the A-board, though, not Chat. Let's get back on topic, please.

Back in WWII, a lot of country bumpkins got introduced to hygiene quickly, courtesy of the US Army. Looks like Elite is filling that role now. Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't get stuck in Chat and would just move on to our "medical issues" or "style and grooming" boards.

Sometimes I think we provide a valuable public service by providing reassurance to those of you who are unsure about what's "normal" or were never taught how to use indoor plumbing with confidence.

Other times I think that's just asking too much of our mods. Let's face it, the supply of patient teachers who are willing to mentor adults on the proper use of toilet paper is limited.

About "put all rules in writing" -- nope. That way lies madness. I sympathize if you are sincere about wanting to know where you stand, but there are others (most of you know who they are) who will pounce on anything that claims to be a comprehensive list and go wild finding loopholes to exploit. I'm not about to play into their hands. "We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone" and that's how it's going to stay.

 

[jnevin]

BRR, judging by the behavior of some of your chosen "leaders" round these parts, me thinks you might want to clean your house before worrying about ours.

Just my .02.

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[needtogetaas]

Then deleting posts that provide peer-reviewed research contradicting claims by the said sponsor.

Could you tell me of a post or thread where this has been done. If your going to make a claim please back it up.

 

[stilleto]

the way the board is now is the reason I'm not plat..

too much BS with biased mods.. there needs to be printed rules and thats all that is enforced. there's no way in hell to keep this board undercontrol with people coming to it. It will be extremely boring (more than now) and customers will leave real fast!

I'm not sure which mod you think is biased (since we know it's not me or my alter), but if you think he has some ulterior motive when he gives advice- then don't listen to those posts.

a set of rules is difficult, as digger said, because it means that the people who need them, will also try to find loopholes in them.
Most people don't really need a set of rules to follow- they know common decency and if they step outside the unspoken set of rules once in a blue moon, it's not so bad as the guy who is constantly looking to do it just because he can.

 

[jack sparrow]

You say "peer-reviewed," I say "cut-and-paste."

When you have another board out there actively bribing people to come here and make trouble, well, there's not much point in pretending that's a real discussion. Personally, I was hoping to keep it right where it was, and let Primordial respond to it at length... because if Macro had a failing, it was refusing to let the other side present their case. I was sorry to see that thread recycled. But I also don't routinely overrule the A-board mods.

That's the A-board, though, not Chat. Let's get back on topic, please.

Back in WWII, a lot of country bumpkins got introduced to hygiene quickly, courtesy of the US Army. Looks like Elite is filling that role now. Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't get stuck in Chat and would just move on to our "medical issues" or "style and grooming" boards.

Sometimes I think we provide a valuable public service by providing reassurance to those of you who are unsure about what's "normal" or were never taught how to use indoor plumbing with confidence.

Other times I think that's just asking too much of our mods. Let's face it, the supply of patient teachers who are willing to mentor adults on the proper use of toilet paper is limited.

About "put all rules in writing" -- nope. That way lies madness. I sympathize if you are sincere about wanting to know where you stand, but there are others (most of you know who they are) who will pounce on anything that claims to be a comprehensive list and go wild finding loopholes to exploit. I'm not about to play into their hands. "We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone" and that's how it's going to stay.

For the record, I understood very little of this^^^