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you guyss arent gunna believe this shit....

X Man

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this is college town we are talking about here so keep this in mind:

say cops come into a house for underage drinking, and see a few blunts laying around, does that give them permision to search an entire house. including locked safes which are like in the corner of a closet,of one person's which may happen to contain a few sustanon amps?

:coffee:
 
bighippie11 said:
yeah...actually they could search the whole thing just for minor possesion. happened to a few of my college buddies
wow i guess i got re asses where i keep my shit then
 
X Man said:
see i think that is eally fucked up.... i didnt know that gave them no holds bar freedom to search for anything and everything including everyones room
Understanding Search and Seizure Law
Learn when the government can invade your privacy to hunt for evidence of a crime.


The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution places limits on the power of the police to make arrests, search people and their property, and seize objects and contraband (such as illegal drugs or weapons). These limits are the bedrock of search and seizure law. This article covers the basic issues that you should know, beginning with an overview of the Fourth Amendment itself.

The Fourth Amendment: Protecting Your Privacy
The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads as follows:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The search and seizure provisions of the Fourth Amendment are all about privacy. To honor this freedom, the Fourth Amendment protects against "unreasonable" searches and seizures by state or federal law enforcement authorities.

The flip side is that the Fourth Amendment does permit searches and seizures that are considered reasonable. In practice, this means that the police may override your privacy concerns and conduct a search of your home, barn, car, boat, office, personal or business documents, bank account records, trash barrel, or whatever, if:

the police have probable cause to believe they can find evidence that you committed a crime, and a judge issues a search warrant, or
the particular circumstances justify the search without a warrant first being issued.

http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/objectID/DED24689-ADA8-4785-887A0B4A19A694DE/104/143/127/ART/
 
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a bomb said:
They shouldn't be able to access the safe without a warrant. I think.
that is kind of whut i was thinking... maybe something about like plain view... im look for a def answer here, sometime soon,

is there anyone who knows def what the deal is...? or share ur buddies expierences
 
CO B-man said:
Understanding Search and Seizure Law
Learn when the government can invade your privacy to hunt for evidence of a crime.


The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution places limits on the power of the police to make arrests, search people and their property, and seize objects and contraband (such as illegal drugs or weapons). These limits are the bedrock of search and seizure law. This article covers the basic issues that you should know, beginning with an overview of the Fourth Amendment itself.

The Fourth Amendment: Protecting Your Privacy
The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads as follows:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The search and seizure provisions of the Fourth Amendment are all about privacy. To honor this freedom, the Fourth Amendment protects against "unreasonable" searches and seizures by state or federal law enforcement authorities.

The flip side is that the Fourth Amendment does permit searches and seizures that are considered reasonable. In practice, this means that the police may override your privacy concerns and conduct a search of your home, barn, car, boat, office, personal or business documents, bank account records, trash barrel, or whatever, if:

the police have probable cause to believe they can find evidence that you committed a crime, and a judge issues a search warrant, or
the particular circumstances justify the search without a warrant first being issued.


well because there are a few roachs laying around and there is under drinking going on.. i dont think gives the cops the right to search underneath my bed in the far corner in a locked safe.... whut probaable cause is there, that underage drinking and pot would be there?
 
I studied criminal justice for 2.5 years before changing my major to Engineering. I used to want to be a cop. Kind of ironic now but I am a little on the deviant side in case you did not know. Some laws are just not fair. You can fight your battle in courts but I do not think you will be able to change the interpretation of the fourth amendment. When criminal behaviour is witnessed (i.e. position) your rights were given away. Thats why the first thing a cop does when they come into your house if you are dumb enough to letthem in is search around. If you have illegal things going on make sure they can not see inside because they will be looking over your shoulders to see if they can find something to use as an excuse to enter your premises without needing your permission. Like looking in your windows etc.
 
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