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Yohimburn, simply amazing!!!!!

the unit is "pumps" which are 1/2 ml. areas and amounts used is very individual, the greater the calorie deficit and/or activity level the more you can efficiently use.

on non training days. in the am after shower.

as to cabergoline... there should be no problem with precycle use.
you might consider running selegiline throughout the cycle.
 
dr0832 said:
Are there any supps that Yohimburn should not be used with?
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no. though some, reasonable, care should be used when stacking with stims as it can potentate thier effects. Though with normal use of stims and yohimburn- no issues
 
ill give it a bump... i am thinking about starting to use it on my face to see if i can get the same great results it gives me on my puffy nips
 
I am thinking about using some yohimburn in the spring on my abs. I got down to 10% BF for the first time and was fairly lean, however my tops abs showed a tiny bit, but lower abs were far from showing through. When I got measure my abs were at 13-14% BF where as overall all I was 10.1%. I guess this is a genetic thing, or coulb be because I used to have about 18-20% BF when I was younger because I used to eat crap. I have been bulking and working on weighted ab exercises and will do a ckd in the spring with cardio 4 times a week, EC and yohimburn. Would I be correct to think that yohimburn should be able to aid in losing some of this ab fat.
 
I was wondering, I typically do my cardio in the morning after I lift. So lets say I get up at 8am, shower, and then apply the Yohimburn DF to the areas I want widdle down (chest, abs, love handles/lower back). Then I wait about 30-45 min for it to dry and then I go workout for an hour, and then about 30-45 min of cardio. Of course, now I'm going to take a shower, is this just wasting the Yohimburn or what?

Also, I tan before I lift, will the Yohimburn be bad for this or not?

Thanks in advance!
 
Zer0 Defects said:
I was wondering, I typically do my cardio in the morning after I lift. So lets say I get up at 8am, shower, and then apply the Yohimburn DF to the areas I want widdle down (chest, abs, love handles/lower back). Then I wait about 30-45 min for it to dry and then I go workout for an hour, and then about 30-45 min of cardio. Of course, now I'm going to take a shower, is this just wasting the Yohimburn or what?
NO. that is a more than sufficient amount of time between application and showering
Also, I tan before I lift, will the Yohimburn be bad for this or not?
No, its fine. though would not apply to areas that touch the tanning bed
Thanks in advance!
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so a gel in a can is supposed to burn adipose tissue huh?

Am I the only sane adult here that thinks this stuff just acts as a diuretic? If it was really the real deal don't you think every gov't agency would have all the lardasses in this country bathing in this stuff to save on healthcare costs?

I know you guys need to make a buck, and thats great, but lets not bullshit these 19 year old kids just to line our pockets....
 
There's plenty of us who are not associated with any business, and who are also smart enough to make our own home brews for about $15 a bottle who can say first hand that the stuff works.

The point of yohimburn is to shred the last little bit of fat on people who are around 12% (men) BF or less. If you are @ 20% then you are not going to really see results. This stuff has never been claimed to be a "magical snake oil fat burner".

I'll admit that @ 19% BF, it doesn't do me much good. The only place it works for me is on my arms. None-the-less, it does work and I have measurements and appearance to prove it. Maybe my version is just magic snake oil or something ;)
 
Tyramine will only have stimulatory impact when stacked orally, as yohimbine is a mao-i, in gut where tyramine is heavily metabolised. With topical use there is no mao-i effect, so impact will be minimal.

btw- this is often reffered to as the "cheese effect" with respect to MAO-I. certain aged cheeses are high in tyramine. This stack can dangerously elevate BP. though some people do like the effect. its not really reccomended.

as a note MAOi-B, like selegiline, do not have this effect (tyramine is metabolised by MAOI-A
 
the effect reffered is when yohimbine is taken orally.

no one said tyramine did not work orally, (though obviously as noted below higher doses are needed for effect) only that the amplification of effect occured only with oral yohimbine (as opposed to topical).

and its not generally reccomended as it can cause severe BP issues

and tyramine is extensively metabolised by MAOI-a in the gut.
 
Macro - I had a buddy of mine ask me this and I have no clue. Generally speaking, whats the maximum amount of DF that can be applied to a single area in a day? (Before it gets to the point of just wasting it) Twice a day?
 
depends on size of area. as well as size and depth of fat stores. basically it varies so much as any answer would be insufficient.

best way to find out is to try variants, and see where individual response point appears to decline..

its like anything there is no absolute response point and due to the incredible variations in this particular situation its even harder to do so.
 
i just ordered my yohimburn today, im cutting right now and have stubborn fat around love handles and lower abs. Cant wait to see how well this stuff works hehe.

also, is it absolutely necessary to do cardio while using it? Im very concerned about losing any muscle mass
 
I know this is ancient but where the hack did the european af store go? I can't find it. Don't tell me you guys had to close down. That would make me mad.

And in 5-10 years I'll be a good powerlifter. I started Kung-Fu also. You don't ever wanna make a good powerlifter with MA background mad. :-)
 
germandude said:
I know this is ancient but where the hack did the european af store go? I can't find it. Don't tell me you guys had to close down. That would make me mad.
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Hiya Nachbar (neighbor)! Hmm, I'm having no problems using the European store. It's still up!
 
My ES came with the freakin pump broken from AF... Can someone please give me a pump to pipette dropper convert for both the face and abdominal area. Or better yet how many drops in a pump?
 
GoFastMan said:
My ES came with the freakin pump broken from AF... Can someone please give me a pump to pipette dropper convert for both the face and abdominal area. Or better yet how many drops in a pump?
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1/4 pippette(.6ml)= apprx 1 pump (.5ml)

just email them and they should send you another.
 
I love all AF store products, but Yohimburn has been a time-proven product that's just too hard to pass on for me :).

Mr.X
 
Alrighty ... I bought some Yohimburn ES and I'm planning on using it a little on my face, and my stomach. Now, I'm 5'-9.5" and 150 lbs. .... how long do you think it will be before I start seeing significant results (if the results can even be described as 'significant')?
 
I have been using the ES version on my face for 2 weeks now following the directions.

All I have seen is more retention of water, i.e. face looks puffier after application and a couple of hours after then goes back to normal a few hours later. Is this normal?

So for me, no positive changes
 
its great i even have a stash in my hockey bag. its great
 
mixxin said:
I have been using the ES version on my face for 2 weeks now following the directions.

All I have seen is more retention of water, i.e. face looks puffier after application and a couple of hours after then goes back to normal a few hours later. Is this normal?

So for me, no positive changes
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Hey try using it like 5 days on and then 2 days off.
 
I was thinking of grabbing some of this stuff. I use Nair from time to time on my chest. Is this going to do anything to it? Also, what is a good link for the twin pack if someone could drop it for me. Thakns
 
jstrick2 said:
I was thinking of grabbing some of this stuff. I use Nair from time to time on my chest. Is this going to do anything to it? Also, what is a good link for the twin pack if someone could drop it for me. Thakns
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would not use nair on the same day. or if you do be sure that some time, at least 4hrs, and thorough washing between application of one or the other.

mostly because that could irritate skin.

https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/product_info.php?id=92
 
Damn I almost always look at these threads for more feedback when there are new posts, and in 50% of the cases its macro with a ^ or :p
:rolleyes:
 
Shaitan said:
Damn I almost always look at these threads for more feedback when there are new posts, and in 50% of the cases its macro with a ^ or :p
:rolleyes:
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this ^ and this :p

are to avoid repetive stress injury from answering same questions.. over.. and over... and over..

plus these long threads have a lot of good feedback and info..
 
I read the first 4 pages (out of 13) of the yohimburn thread, and I'm curious about the cardio part. I usually do 100 yard windsprints 3 days a week. The sessions usually last 20 minutes or so. Would that be enough cardio to help see my bf drop from 15% to possibly 10%?
 
Hello,

First post here and found this while searching google. I too have had the puffy nipple thing goin on for years, although I think at some points it got better when i lost weight. Either way I have had it for a while now even as I get in shape and lose weight, when nipples are erect I look damn good haha, the way i should but otherwise they do that puffing out shit which sucks.

So basically I was wondering would it be good to go for simply the DF to help with this? I am currently not looking to get extrememly cut hence not looking at all the other products etc.., I am on a good diet, losing weight, and concentrating on toning more atm. My biggest and only concern though is the nipple thing, just want to wear my shirts and feel a bit more confident about it.

Thanks
 
Also forgot to mention, as for side effects anything I shoudl worry about? didnt seem to see much as far as problems on the site. Only thing I noticed was something to the effect of stimulants, which im not that great with caffeine as I used to get anxiety attacks and still do sometimes but mostly under control. However I figured the rub on stuff versus taking something internally shouldnt effect me as much.

And as for the differences between this and the ES? which should I go for especially since this will be my first time.

Thanks again, and if all is good im ordering this bitch tonight. :)
 
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The ES is probably better in this situation. Especially since puffy nipples can be a water retention area.

Stimulant effects are mild and for many barely noticable.

Those who suffer from anxiety with oral yohimbine, have not reported anxiety with yohimburn (any version.. original, DF, ES)
 
Not to bash anything here, and I cant speak for or against this product. However I feel that there is a lack of info on this product regarding possible side effects, other warnings, could it effect you later on? long term effects? I just find it odd on their site there is VERY minimal info on any of this, and in this long thread I have seen several posts where people asks several questions, and one of those questions would be regarding the side effects or any warnings and I seem to notice those questions for the most part go unanswered. I think this is due to a lack of testing, or else this product is still to new to know.

I have been using it for 4 days, and it seems fine except the other day when I used it in the am, then again at night it seemed to be overload stimulant wise as I was very jittery and had trouble sleeping. This I understand is common as it has caffeine in it, makes sense. However, I went to the doc today for a follow up and i have some high blood pressure, and i thought hmm caffeine temporarily can raise it etc... again not saying this products causes problems but i feel that it could lead to things and there just isnt enough info.

Just some thought.
 
s14 said:
Not to bash anything here, and I cant speak for or against this product. However I feel that there is a lack of info on this product regarding possible side effects, other warnings, could it effect you later on? long term effects? I just find it odd on their site there is VERY minimal info on any of this, and in this long thread I have seen several posts where people asks several questions, and one of those questions would be regarding the side effects or any warnings and I seem to notice those questions for the most part go unanswered. I think this is due to a lack of testing, or else this product is still to new to know.

I have been using it for 4 days, and it seems fine except the other day when I used it in the am, then again at night it seemed to be overload stimulant wise as I was very jittery and had trouble sleeping. This I understand is common as it has caffeine in it, makes sense. However, I went to the doc today for a follow up and i have some high blood pressure, and i thought hmm caffeine temporarily can raise it etc... again not saying this products causes problems but i feel that it could lead to things and there just isnt enough info.

Just some thought.
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these are good points. and will be addressed when the new labeling comes out. there is some systemic stimulation, its unavoidable.. and for many desired. Typically the with respect to BP there is little impact. Any raise should be small.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
just a quick note:

for those with puffy nips.. you may want to consider a prolactin suppressor as well..
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Would this also help with reducing this? Is there anything that would reduce the puffy nips?
 
Salt or baking soda are great exfoliants. I prefer salt, the grains are larger, but srub gently

G MoNeY said:
thanks for the reply.. i just got it in the mail..

what is the best/easiest way to exfoliate?? thanks.
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macrophage69alpha said:
just a quick note:

for those with puffy nips.. you may want to consider a prolactin suppressor as well.. just to cover all the bases.. plus they tend to have beneficial effects on leptin making weight loss in general easier
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Has anyone determined a good dose with vitex yet?

Are they're safer alternatives then Bromo and Dostinex?

At what dose is selegline useful?

If I have puberty induced puffy nips/ pseudo gyno can It still be dealt with by a prolactin inhibitor?

Will it be just temporary?


alot of questions , I know. There seems to be alot of misinformation out there.



Thanks for any help
 
gamorrah said:
Has anyone determined a good dose with vitex yet?

Are they're safer alternatives then Bromo and Dostinex?

At what dose is selegline useful?

If I have puberty induced puffy nips/ pseudo gyno can It still be dealt with by a prolactin inhibitor?

Will it be just temporary?


alot of questions , I know. There seems to be alot of misinformation out there.



Thanks for any help
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1-2 grams- though this is a pretty wide range

selegiline

1-5mg per day or EOD (long half life)

Maybe- Varies- depends on a variety of factors- ie. other causitive factors (estrogen) etc..

Maybe- varies-
 
macrophage69alpha said:
1-2 grams- though this is a pretty wide range

selegiline

1-5mg per day or EOD (long half life)

Maybe- Varies- depends on a variety of factors- ie. other causitive factors (estrogen) etc..

Maybe- varies-
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thanks Macro!

any sides with vitex to consider?
 
Thanks for the info,
I keep losing fat and currently I am down to 12%. I was originally 24% 4 months ago and got serious, read Venutos book and did a EQ/Proviron cycle with hard Cardio. Because of the fat loss my nipples have flattened quite a bit. I simply may be one of those guys with the fat accumulation in the nips. Anyways, I believe that I can defeat this with fat lossl, and will probably try another bottle of YES, before considering the Vitex. Do you think the Boldenone is a safe choice for sides?

I appreciate your help!
 
gamorrah said:
Thanks for the info,
I keep losing fat and currently I am down to 12%. I was originally 24% 4 months ago and got serious, read Venutos book and did a EQ/Proviron cycle with hard Cardio. Because of the fat loss my nipples have flattened quite a bit. I simply may be one of those guys with the fat accumulation in the nips. Anyways, I believe that I can defeat this with fat lossl, and will probably try another bottle of YES, before considering the Vitex. Do you think the Boldenone is a safe choice for sides?

I appreciate your help!
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boldenone metabolites are not that well researched, however most people do not report problems.

test with femara would be a decent choice
 
macrophage69alpha said:
boldenone metabolites are not that well researched, however most people do not report problems.

test with femara would be a decent choice
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would you say the test with femara at the right dosages would be as safe (gyno wise) as the boldenone?

Im not looking for real big gains, keepable lean gains are more important.

what dosages would you recommend of the test/femara for that fictional scenario?

which type of test would be best?

thanks alot Macro
 
gamorrah said:
would you say the test with femara at the right dosages would be as safe (gyno wise) as the boldenone?

Im not looking for real big gains, keepable lean gains are more important.

what dosages would you recommend of the test/femara for that fictional scenario?

which type of test would be best?

thanks alot Macro
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generally

500/wk to 2.5ED (a high dose bu considering the issue.. warranted. starting a week before cycle)

enathate or prop + enathate (cyp can sub for enathate)
 
macrophage69alpha said:
generally

500/wk to 2.5ED (a high dose bu considering the issue.. warranted. starting a week before cycle)

enathate or prop + enathate (cyp can sub for enathate)
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So are we talking about an 8 week cycle, running femara a week before and running throughout? Will that keep me dry during the cycle?

Is estrogen rebound an issue after stopping the femara?

Like I said, im not looking for real big gains (10-15lbs), what kind of gains would you expect for an intermediate lifter, with about 4-5 previous cycles total?

I will check the PCT board for PCT, unless you have specific advice.


thanks alot Macro!
 
bighead said:
Which parts of the face do you put it on and what type of effects are you noticing?

Is it around the cheek bones just under the eyes and along the jaw line your putting it.I'm curious about trying this myself but know little about it to be honest.
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bump for the answer to this..
 
Re: Question....

SpyGirl said:
I noticed that almost all replies are form guys... Is there some reason it isn't "regulated" for a female body???
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i've been using it for a few days.. notice slight differences.. notihng drastic.. but its only been less than a week
 
Hey macro - just ordered the UFL Kit w/ YES, glucorall, trex, and added some ALCAR. I'm 6'2", 225, 26yrs old and around 20% bf...mostly around my gut and chest (puffy nips too). I've been doing a CKD diet for just over a month w/ an ECA stack. How would you recommend I stack the stuff in the UFL kit (amounts, time of day, etc) and do I need to adjust my diet in any way?

Thanks.
 
when using glucorell you can move to a more traditional med-high carb diet/high protien/low fat.

with yohimburn use prior to workouts (can also be used prior to bed)

with thermorexin throughout the day, as tolerated. starting with one cap as directed.

alcar up to 4g/day taken in between meals with one dose large dose 1g, prior to workout
 
Why the f*** do i keep getting spam from this thread every time someone posts on it. All other threads email me only if i chk the post, and the site sees that i am still interested. I never chk this one for the last 20 emails, but the update notifications continue to roll in =/
 
GoFastMan said:
Why the f*** do i keep getting spam from this thread every time someone posts on it. All other threads email me only if i chk the post, and the site sees that i am still interested. I never chk this one for the last 20 emails, but the update notifications continue to roll in =/
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got to your profile.. under subscribed threads, find this one and use the "remove" option
 
I dunno, I've always been skeptical about those products...Does it burn or generate any kind of heat (especially when working out)?
 
most users report this, though part of that is due to the carrier. (just to be upfront).

the science of topical delivery is actually quite developed, but because of lack of patentability big pharma and others dont use it. (though they have been moving toward it because of the benefits of local and time release delivery (not to mention bioavailability) with new and most importantly PATENTABLE delivery platforms.. not more effective.. but certainly more profitable)
 
I just ordered this stuff this weekend, I have some natural gyno going on with some abnormally large nipple areas so hopefully it will help me out in that area.
 
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