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YOHIMBINE tips and tricks- V.2

Dork,

Applying before gym, 30-40min prior to workout, will improve fatburning and give some CNS stimualtion- a little taken sublingual 5-10mg(using the tabs you have lying around :p ) is also beneficial 5-10min before workout.
 
PIMP,

Lipoburn- not sure that it contains yohimbine (label says yohimbe hcl :confused: ) and some of the ingredients are misspelled. most people I have talked to dissatisfied with results. Seems to work better when mixed with extra yohimbine hcl- a couple people I know have tried this.(probably because the amount of Y hcl contained in original product is miniscule- I have heard 40mg per jar- but unable to verify)

Lipoderm- have not heard anything- except 2 reports of it being too caustic to the skin (2 women- stopped using). Yohimbine in this product is chinese in origin which will affect quality.


The topical solution that I was referring to is a blend of japanese peppermint oil (90% l-menthol), pure liquid aloe vera, water and a small amount of glycerin. Yohimbine suspends and dissassociate well in this solution. Preliminary results are good though, only myself and a few other have tried it (certainly less yohimbine can and must be used with this solution- as I found :p ) It is not available yet to the public.


peace
 
Cutting Gel or BEnGay

MP,

I just recieved my yohimbine HCL and i want to know if i can use "Cutting Gel" as a carrier(bc i have half a bottle of it)? Or will Ben Gay work better?

Thanks alot bro.

M56M
 
M65,

I would use bengay.
I have not used the cutting gel but reports say that it is greasy and just sits on your skin.

Drop me a line if you are interested in trying a special carrier :p , as yet unavailable. :alien:
 
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY LEWDTENANT ON FITNESSBOARD
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Let me tell you. I am on NYC/YohHCL for about 5 days now. I just am not hungry for anything. It sucks!!
 
:p

feel free to add your personal experiences- both trials and successes.

A quick note:

in a long line of quick notes

if you get a bottle yohimbine that is 150cc and it has 2g of yohimbine(2g's of yohimbine has a volume of 5-7cc depending on powder fineness) that means that the bottle will be about 1/30 to 1/20 full- give or take if its 10g it will be about 1/6 to 1/5...etc..etc.. I have recieved a lot of email regarding this- understandably as 2g- while equal to 50/100 serving as 40mg/20mg does NOT look like a whole lot in a big bottle.


peace
 
BE CAREFUL

WHEN USING YOUR CRUSHED PRESCIPTION YOHIMBINE HCL TABLETS SUBLINGUALLY (powder yohimbine hcl is intended, of course solely for topical use) WITH SUBLIGUAL USE IT IS MUCH EASIER TO TAKE TO MUCH.


SUBLINGUAL USE OF YOHIMBINE IS FOR CNS/pre-workout- though you will get some fat loss benefits they are not comparable to topical use

FOR FAT LOSS--- TOPICAL USE OF YOHIMBINE HCL IS BY FAR SUPERIOR, BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER LOCAL CONCENTRATIONS AND TIME RELEASE OF YOHIMBINE.

PEACE
 
Great read....I wouldo give someof this a try and this is what I was looking for....Thanks Macro.
BTW...You have mail when you get a chance to read them

M18
 
I use 20 mgs, twice a day... using the liquid Aloe.

I can actually see a reduction of fat around the lower part of my mid section, just under the navel, and my love handles.

My favorite part is, after application, the skin in the area feels tighter.

I was thinking of adding Bengay with the liquid aloe, and seeing if that helps, but I'm not sure if it's necessary.

Also... I try to follow the 2 parts carrier, 1 part yohimbine hcl method... but it's hard to measure out... is it possible to overkill on the Aloe? Like use too much, and dilute the product?
 
BBV,

You really cant use to much, the 2 to 1 ratio is for people that really want to concentrate on a SMALL area- it is the minimum reccomended.

More carrier is fine- as most areas of application are relatively large- triceps, love handles, lower abs, etc.

with a menthol product you will get faster uptake- so the blood spike of yohimbine will be faster and a little stronger- SOME PEOPLE need to reduce dosage with the addition of menthol(s).

peace
 
Macro, I sent you an email to your elite account about 3 days ago regarding the availability of yohimbine hcl in Canada. Have you had a chance to look at it or did you ignore it because it came from a hotmail account? If so, please inform me so that I can resend it to you (from a non-hotmail account)

Thanks.:D
 
Macro,

today I started my second cycle of DNP so I decided to to give Yohi. a try. Well you know how you put that headache is syptom, shit all I know that an hour after I applied it I hade a f****n headache from hell for 2.5 hours! ;)
 
wannimpress,
how much did you take?
what carriers? etc.

definitely too much, plus what type of DNP are you using?
if it is crystal the effect onset is very fast and dehydration from it may have played a role.

peace
 
NOTE:

ALOE is an organic carrier- the mucopolysacchrides have been shown to be excellent transdermal carriers. Slower uptake and release

However, greater uptake and penetration with the addition of menthol/menthol products. Faster initial uptake and release, greater overall release with this combination.

peace
 
macro

I'm pretty sure that I applied to much yohi. to my midsection. I filled the little miniature size spoon to the top and mixed it up with some Aloe, about the size of two quarters, I noticed some yohi. on my fingers so I mixed that in to. No telling how much that was!:confused: Well Im using 600mgs of the powdered DNP for right now and have some of the crystalized kind, for future use! :D
 
Today I took my normal 3 servings of 2 pills of adipo and I did 20mg YoHCL in the morning and lifted. on my last adipo serving I did 40mg of YoHCL on the abs. about an hour later I had this goose bump feeling on my arms and I had this buzzy nice feeling. I felt like hugging my lady.

Is this odd?

anyway, i am about to do a 40 on my abs.

:fro:
 
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i apply 20mg 3 times a day to my right pec, and i haven't noticed anything mood related, or any sick feeling what so ever
 
Caiza,
aloe liquid and aloe liquid gel- are both usable for internal(not with yohimbine) and external applications(with yohimbine and for skin health).

Lewd,

Normal- yohimbine is a weak, short term, MAO inhibitor.


peace
 
DORK,

In order to ascertain if you get those effects from yohimbine, which some people do not, do the sublingual test. 10mg +/- 5mg under the tongue(using your prescription yohimbine tablets, of course)
 
Anyone else out there using the pre-mix solution? I've been on it for a day and while I can't say whether it's more effective (or less) than the powder, the application fuckin' rules! It's like rubbing lotion on you, not that whole deal with powder and aspercreme and mixing and blah...

Results?
 
Daman,

With the solution maximum comfortable dosage is typically reduced- though it varies- more so for women because of sking thickness differences, because of increased uptake. But this does allow your yohimbine to go further.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
DORK,

In order to ascertain if you get those effects from yohimbine, which some people do not, do the sublingual test. 10mg +/- 5mg under the tongue(using your prescription yohimbine tablets, of course)
Click to expand...

Can I do this with YoHCL powder at the same doses 5mg-15mg sublingually?

what other drugs are MAO inhibitors? I don't feel like looking in my PDR to know what you are talking about.
 
Lewd,

Read between the lines :) - there might be a little sarcasm in that post- maybe.

There are a lot of MAO- inhibitors, but yohimbine is a weak one + short acting

- anti-depressants are strong ones
 
MP- You never adressed my concerns about the "third testicle" side effect. I think I'm the first one to experience this particular side but my girlfriend is very distrubed about the third "member of the family". Any ideas about when it will go away? :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
side effects of TOO MUCH yohimbine hcl

overwhelming tiredness
:yawn: :sleeping:

irritability
:argue:

headache
:arrow:

chills
:cold:

If you have any of these you may need to cut back your dosage

with some carriers (especially menthol) you may get some of these very short term 10-20min- this is OK(maybe cut back a little), but if they last longer you really need to cut back dosage
 
yohi carrier

the best one i came up with .........are you ready CASAICIN this stuff is unreal ......it burns like no other and you dont have to apply but just one time a day.
the next day you will see a difference:rolleyes:


'' KNOWLEDGE IS KING ''
 
Raider47,

Capsaizen is good carrier, but keep in mind that the heat is due to the capsicum. It is equivalent to, or very slightly better than, most of the menthol containing analgesics.

peace
 
yohi baby

oh come on mac , that heat im talking bout is almost unbearable, i even dilute it with water so it dont penetrate so much. when i do before training it definately has some synergism going on, when i look at my skin it looks like its deflating what a great combo bottom line

p.s. can you believe there is a stronger one of this stuff i just bought the .025mg but their is a .075 ouch!!!
 
raider,

there is some synergism, but the heat that you feel is due to the action of capsicum- which has some thermogenic properties (not as much as the heat would lead you to believe) as well as some local diuretic action.

It definitely is a good carrier, which is why i have reccomended it, but not the best. combination carriers/penetration enhancers are better. though future versions of the carrier solution mentioned may carry capsicum, though at less than .025- because many people are too sensitive to capsicum to use that dosage.
 
yohi once again

combination carriers/penetration enhancers are better.
like what combo's, i will do it ....the reason i like so much is that it makes you sweat where you normally would'nt
thats the whole point right, to access the fat for usage,
bottom line this topical stuff can only get better

good work mp
 
with respect to mixing with capsaizen, you may want to initially rub yohimbine in with a small amount of aloe or glycerin and then add the capsaicen(there are several spellings).

peace
 
I have been using MP's special carrier for about 2 days and all i can say is i am very pleased so far. It gives a little burning sensation, and blends into the skin very well. Does not leave a greesy residue on the skin at all and does not smell bad. I will need a little more time to talk about results, since its only been 2 days...i will post results on the following Monday. But so far so good....

M56M
 
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Macro,

Do you think this will work well as a good carrier for Yohimbe HCL?

"Aloe Heat Lotion. 4 Oz. Size. With 85% Aloe Vera and added eucalyptus and menthol. A moisturizing, soothing and deeply penetrating lotion to aid in the relief of deep-seated pain. For use on muscular soreness, stiff joints, and pain from arthritic soreness. Aids in the reduction of swelling and underlying pain normally not reached through topical applications."
 
Progress update:


I've notice a big reduction in fat around my midsection/love handles. I'm using liquid aloe, applying daily, 20 mgs twice a day. Working great, and I'm very satisfied.

My lady, on the other hand, is using 4 days a week, also with the liquid aloe, 20 mgs, twice a day on the glutes... and has not noticed... well... anything at all, really.

Now, is there anything I can do for her? Maybe mix carriers such as bengay/icyhot with the liquid aloe? Would this help?
 
Mrt,

Should work as well as aspercreme, perhaps slightly better.
The problem with creams, which are widely available, is that the stabilizers and thickeners may interfere with uptake.
But you can still get good uptake and penetration with creams, though not as good with a liquid solution(which is why the carrier mentioned above by DaMan and M65M is a liqui-gel- though tending toward liquid)(this should, hopefully, be widely available soon)
 
yohi once again

so mp apply with ALOE or GLYCERINE why is that ? before i use the CAPSAICIN (correct spelling lol) is it not getting through with CAPS alone ......that might be good cause as i am working out i rub the area i applied to and i can rub all over again.....there's like a milky build up with sweat mixed and i rub it everywhere......people must like it toooo lol since i dont wipe it off the machines and they suddenly start to burn and dont know why hahaha
 
Terry,
No... it is not a good, or even somewhat worthwhile, substitute.

Raider,
The aloe/glycerin= carrier
The Capsaizen after will enhance penetration.
with creams, because they do somewhat inhibit uptake- rubbing a small amount of water into the site 15-20min after application (orvthe sweat from that area as you mentioned) will be beneficial
 
ummmmm yohi

so i guess what i've been doing is good ..... by putting the yohi in a dish ,then adding the CAPSAICIN then finally adding the dropper concocktion someone sent lol
and i mix all these then on to my sites and off to the gym

should i apply even when im not going to gym or cardio
can it still access the A2's for usage.
 
Raider,
did not reconize your handle- though the E mail address does clarify.
use the solution (you can just pour the 2.4g into bottle and shake well- this will give you a pre mix that is about 30mg per quarter pippette) to apply yohimbine, then if you feel like you still need the capsaizen for added effect rub it onto the area after.

What you can do is get the cayenne extract (100,000 heat units) and rub it in with small amount of water after applying solution- but be forewarned- this will be VERY hot.

peace
 
I see that there are 5 pages long topic of Yohimbe stuff mostly Q's about the carrier/penetrator choice and methods.

:smash: Why the HELL does someone, like AF store make a good carrier, premix it with Yohimbe and sell it as a finished product and save us from finding the correct carrier, mixing with the right dosage issues:confused:

If there is a technical difficulty, like shorter shelf time, etc. for premixing, I'm sorry... I didn't know
 
Kingjohn,

Yohimbine Hcl powder can be purchased for RESEARCH.
There are legal restrictions and liabilities.
If you would like to pursue this E mail me, I will not discuss it here.

However the only site that sells it for cosmetic use is AF.

peace
MP
 
yohi

so mp is this a powder the cayenne extract (100,000 heat units) how much should i try the 1st time ...like 1 microscoop of the cayenne with h2o after i apply yohi and carrier ....it probly is cheaper than the stuff i buy , that stuff is like almost 20 $ a tube
 
This is just a quick tip for those applying with BenGay, after you apply wash your hands off well. I just used bengay and didn't wash my hands, as i was reading the board as i casually decided to scratch my balls. It felt good at first but now it's starting to burn...
 
Dork,

A very good point, one that has not been emphasized enough. Menthol containing products- aspercreme, bengay, application solution :). should be kept away from sensitive skin------eyes, nose and reproductive organs- which means extra care should be taken with inner thigh applications (though due to anatomy this is more a problem for males than females- ie external v. internal). And of course washing and toweling hands after application.
 
Quick update...MP special carrier...

I have continued using MP special carrier and have no complaints thus far. I have definitely lost around my midsection, which is great. Also, what i thought could have been slight gyno on my pecks has proven to be fat that is basically gone. The only problem i seem to be facing is a little fat on my lower back, i haven't really applied to much there(only a few times), i will start it next Monday, ED on that spot.

I am doing 5 days on, 2 days off.

M56M
 
yohi and partner CAPSI

THATS why i dont use my towel to whipe off the sweat cause i use that same towel on my face and thats with the CAPSAICIN ALOT WORSE THAN BENGAY try it and youll know ...... a couple days ago i used this stuff on my inner thighs and didnt have any undies on ....you thought bengay was bad hell noooooo i had fire ball for about three good hours FELT GREAT LOL . as for the bengay i dont like cause it remains sticky even after you shower ....it bugs
 
Hey Macro, is this stand alone product of yohimbine hcl and carrier you spoke of the one being advertised on AF called Yohimburn? Thanks.
 
Macro i have a question. would it work to make yombie injectible with a suspension kit and inject it under ur skin? will that work better or worst?
 
Omega44,

A yohimbine injectable is made for veterinary use- AS AN ANESTHETIC for dogs and cats- the rapid uptake of yohimbine from an water based injection makes this a POOR choice for fat burning. It is more effective to use it topically, it is cheaper, and does not require frequent injections.

TOPICAL is the way to go, without question in this case.
 
THank u for that advice i was so close to make it injectible thinking injection=better. thanx again man ur a good soldier!
 
This is great news. I can't wait to buy Yohimburn™.

Macro...Can I use Yo HCL all year round or should I come off from time to time. Right now I'm going 4 days on...2 off. How long can i do this for. Are there any side effects with long term use. Also Will I aquimate to Yo HCL or will my body never get use to it.
 
re

Ive been following this thread with interest. I actually experimented with topical Yohimbe back in early 97, using DMSO as the carrier, also injecting small amounts of glucagon into the areas where applied. On two females (who were also doing cardio and on good diets) the results were quite noticeable in the glute/ham and thigh areas.

I haven't done this for years, but this thread has piqued my interest, especially the remarks about the new carriers.

macro, I'm curious...what are your thoughts on topical Forskolin?
 
mickjg,

DMSO, while a good carrier for other chemicals is not a good choice for yohimbine. Mostly because of the lack of penetration and the rapid systemic uptake.

the use forksolin, may increase fat burning- though research and anecdotal reports are shaky at best- not to mention that it is rather expensive and most products have only small(ineffectual) amounts..

peace
 
Buldog,
yohimbine can be used for extended periods of time, however if you take a week break every 3-4 weeks- you generally feel better.

of noter, with extended heavy use some notice a decrease in strength which is most likely a results of high levels of NE in the synapse.
 
TRIPLEV,

there are several products that contain yohimbine or yohimbe extract.

lipoburn- which has little or no yohimbine (the label says yohimbe hcl) when called they were unable to give any information regarding amount of yohimbine- this is a CREAM, the carrier is about the only thing this product has going for it. The addtion of EXTRA yohimbine may make this a viable option.

lipoderm- which has a caustic carrier and yohimbine of chinese origin(though it is cheaper it tends to contain higher levels of impurities)- this product also contains isopropyl alchohol which, in combination, with the carriers may be systemically toxic. This product would be better with a less caustic carrier- the carrier is great for deep tissue delivery but is uneccessary for delivery, of yohimbine, to fat which is not as deep. With this product, because of the deep penetration systemic build up may be unavoidable.

yohimburn- which is based upon the reccomendations contained herein- it is less caustic, but if you a sensitivity to menthol this product should not be used. It does contain yohimbine hcl--USP. this product should be used 4-5day on 1-2 days off
 
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:FRlol: :FRlol:

There are 6 Elite members here where I work....I just posted a simple post and told one of the guys I work with about what's going on. A lot more people can easily find out..... Why are you making such a big deal about a competing product?
 
Mickjg,

I am not entirely sure of the ability of Forksolin to apss through the dermal layer, people that have used the lipoburn say that the brown matter(most likely the forksolin) tends to stay on the surface. This might work better with DMSO... but as to dosage ???
 
Penetration enhancers:

they are a double edged sword.

a. Without some penetration enhancement yohimbine will not reach the adipose tissue.

b. too much penetration enhancement will result in yohimbine in tissue where it has little activity( but will be slowly released causes extended water retention. Typically the stronger the penetration enhancement the more caustic the substance is to the skin.
 
forskolin

Hmmm...to compensate for forskolins inability to pass through the dermal layer, perhaps an oil or water based forskolin compound injected using insulin needles?
 
mickjg,

if the forksolin were micronized it might(more like definitely) be more likely to pass through the skin. it is likely that the product they used was not resulting in the clumping on the surface....but i really cannot be sure.
 
does y-hcl lose its effectiveness?

:fro:
ok....I have used the y-hcl orally, and am very interested in trying it topically. My question, is since I was already down to a little under 6% bf, and now I am back up to around 9%. Would the topcial Y-hcl produce good effects? I am 5'7 around 170 and 9%bf. This gain was due to lack of time since i work full time and go to school full time. So no laughter please........if anyone can help me out though i would appreciate it. Im not sure if the fat that has returned would be stimulated at this point by the hcl. Thanks.
 
hamper19,

the difference between oral and topical use is like night and day. Oral use is not very effective for fat loss, though it does help and is good as a pre-workout/fornication(increased blood flow) supplement.

Yohimbine topical, while providing some CNS stimulation, is much better for fat loss it allows for delivery of a large amount of the drug to the adipose tissue in question- providing that tissue with high concentrations of yohimbine for and extended period which is not possible with oral use.

How effective it will be is based upon the the # of A2 receptors you have, however perhaps more importantly it will most likely allow you to get FURTHER below 6% this time.
 
A quick note: with any yohimbine topical that is effective it should be cycled 3-5days on 1-2 days off to avoid systemic build up. Yohimbine (and its metabolites particularly 11-OH- Yohimbine) can and does build up in tissues, with additional dosages in combination with the slow release from those tissue there can result very high levels of systemic yohimbine( a less than pleasant experience- much like the effect when you take too much, but unfortunately lasting LONGER)- which once you have experienced them you will realize that you want to cycle 3-5 days on 1-2 days off.
 
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