Yep- Another First Cycle thread! (sorry) Need advice

[Quatrocky]

Hey everyone, ive been lurking on these boards for quite a few years now and finally joined. Sorry about this being my first post, but i figured some of you have the knowledge to help me out.

I'm Deciding on my first cycle to start off with, i want to gain around 20 lbs or more, and stay semi lean. I have taken pro-hormones before, and now i'm ready for the real thing. I'm extremely disciplined for my age i think when it comes to the bodybuilding lifestyle. Here are some stats

Age 21
Height 5'8 ish
Weight 180
Workout experience - 6 years
Body Fat around 9%

Bi's 16.75 in cold/Flexed over 17 when i work them out
Neck 17 in
Quads around 24 in
Chest About 44 In
Waist 31 In
Calves 14 in

Im decently strong for my weight.

315 bench max
300 Squat max
120 lbs barbell curl max

I cant rep those weights that much maybe a couple of reps.

My Diet is on key most of the year, thats why my body fat hovers between 8-10% all year round. I lift 6 days a week, do cardio 3 or 4 days a week for 15-20 minutes.

I already have pct on hand with Nolvadex, Clomid, and Toremafine
My source can get me whatever i want. Heres what i was thinking...

Text Cyp @ 400-500 MG weeks 1-12
EQ @ 250 MG weeks 1-12
Winstrol @ 50 Mg weeks 6-12

This may be a horrible stack, honestly im not sure. Ive seen hundreds of different stacks, and can't decide exactly what i want. I just don't want to get bloated, or my face to get too puffy. Let me know and critique me guys!

 

[Big A]

run test on its own for your first cycle. You will grow a lot just off that with proper diet, you could probably even lower the dose 250-300 mg a week for first cycle. If your gonna run the eq it needs to be at at least 400 mgs a week and test should be higher, also would run eq a minumum of 14 weeks and the test 16 if u do the EQ. I would run just this
Test C 250-300mg week 1-10

 

[sugashane]

You'll need HCG

 

[Nelson Montana]

Too much. Too long.

One compound for 6 weeks.

HCG, A-dex, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain for PCT.

EQ and Winstrol do not aromatize so you couldn't possibly need nolvadex.

 

[1999TL]

Too much. Too long.

One compound for 6 weeks.

HCG, A-dex, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, Sustain for PCT.

EQ and Winstrol do not aromatize so you couldn't possibly need nolvadex.

LOL. after reading your book, you have had my head spinning the past couple days since I am planning out my first cycle. You contradict everybody on how long I should run a cycle.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ds-do-you-lose-post-10-week-cycle-598390.html

 

[Quatrocky]

Yea sorry i forgot, i plan to use HCG also...any more input

 

[sweed]

Nelson can u explain why run a 6 week cycle if the cyp doesn't kick in until week 3. when I ran test I was gaining all the way to week 12.

Use the PCT Nelson suggests.

Stick with just test. I ran 12 weeks @ 500mgs ew and gained 30 lbs.

 

[Quatrocky]

ive considered running only test also...6 weeks seems too short

 

[GUARDIAN]

Test only 200-250mg ew for 8-10 weeks.

Have an ai on hand. Plan pct.

If u can't grow off this then there are issues with your diet and/or training.

 

[Mavafanculo]

LOL. after reading your book, you have had my head spinning the past couple days since I am planning out my first cycle. You contradict everybody on how long I should run a cycle.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ds-do-you-lose-post-10-week-cycle-598390.html

The job of anyone thinking about doing a cycle is to read as much authoritative info as possible (ie studys), read the opinion of as many experts and vets as possible, then form your own conclusions as to supplements, compounds, length, dosage, etc.

There is no magic answer, and there are many ways to skin a cat.

some advice may be clearly wrong when its contradicted by science, but many items of advice can be "right" as alternatives.