Yates - Blood and Guts

[RobertFontaine]

I'm just watching his training video. If he's actually working as hard as he appears to be. Forced reps, negatives. If he did this every workout how many weeks would it take till he injured or overtrained?

I know he's got great genes and drugs and I'm just middling average and not on AAS but I can't imagine last longer than about 8 weeks before something broke or I just died at this level of intensity.

Is this just a show of how hard he can work out or is this really representative of his approach to bodybuilding?

 

[louden_swain]

I'm just watching his training video. If he's actually working as hard as he appears to be. Forced reps, negatives. If he did this every workout how many weeks would it take till he injured or overtrained?

I know he's got great genes and drugs and I'm just middling average and not on AAS but I can't imagine last longer than about 8 weeks before something broke or I just died at this level of intensity.

Is this just a show of how hard he can work out or is this really representative of his approach to bodybuilding?

Dorian Yates desgined this video to show his viewers how he trains in the offseason weighing in at 315lbs.

Dorian has always employed high intensity technques, which includes training way beyond failure. Using these techniques allowed Dorian to train each muscle group every 6 or 7 days.

Throughout the course of Dorians career, he sustained a number of injuries. This includes a quad/hip tear in 1987, bicep tear 1994, and tricep tear in 1997. Most of these injuries were related to imbalance between tendon/ligament strength compared to muscular size and strength. Intensity probably played a role as well. The use of AS certainly help Dorian recover and synthesize protein faster than the average person. I once saw a stack and I didn't recognize any of the drugs. . .quite unique if you ask me.

Dorian has always trained in this fashion and has never been a huge fan of volume. His philosophy is always give a 110 percent effort at 110 percent intensity.

Not quite sure if this answers your question.

 

[powerforward]

tom prince swears that dorian trained jst like every other pro bodybuilder(ton of volume), but just used the low volume in a similar manner that mentzer did= to sell books/videos. now prince could just be lying, but on musclemayhem, he said that he trained with dorian on several occasions.

having said that i think that dorians training shown on blood and guts is a pretty good routine.

 

[mrzap]

I just wish I had some spot with a hardcore accent the one Dorian had with him on the video. COME ON NOW PUSH IT OUT LADDY SQUUUUEEEEZE!!! (gay jokes aside)

Funny how I can hear that shit in my head and it helps me stay intense =)

 

[louden_swain]

I love all of the screaming in the video!

Come on Yates!!! Lets Fly!!!

Leroy was nice and loud!!

 

[Dustin85]

prince might have said that because he's counting warm up sets.

Dorian has said before that he has to back off every few weeks or else he gets a cold or starts regressing.

 

[guldukat]

prince might have said that because he's counting warm up sets.

Dorian has said before that he has to back off every few weeks or else he gets a cold or starts regressing.

Agreed about the warm-up sets. Dorian typically did 3 exercises per bodypart, and would do maybe 3 warm-up sets before getting real nasty with a failure set. A total of 12 sets/bodypart might constitute high enough volume in some people's eyes.

Whatever the case is, I definitely don't buy that Dorian just put on about the one working set stuff to sell books or videos. I think that actually hurts marketability.

Ask yourself, how many guys do you know that'd just balk and laugh at doing one working set, never even considering that it could be worthwhile?

If you want to sell a lot of something in a fickle market, it should be somewhat unique but not necessarily so far-out that you alienate your product. On some level, you've got to go with the flow.

Prince is a smart man and should know better than that. Besides, Dorian's a real no-bullshit kind of guy, and too many other people have said that's the way he trained.

 

[b fold the truth]

Re: Re: Yates - Blood and Guts

Dorian Yates desgined this video to show his viewers how he trains in the offseason weighing in at 315lbs.

Dorian has always employed high intensity technques, which includes training way beyond failure. Using these techniques allowed Dorian to train each muscle group every 6 or 7 days.

Throughout the course of Dorians career, he sustained a number of injuries. This includes a quad/hip tear in 1987, bicep tear 1994, and tricep tear in 1997. Most of these injuries were related to imbalance between tendon/ligament strength compared to muscular size and strength. Intensity probably played a role as well. The use of AS certainly help Dorian recover and synthesize protein faster than the average person. I once saw a stack and I didn't recognize any of the drugs. . .quite unique if you ask me.

Dorian has always trained in this fashion and has never been a huge fan of volume. His philosophy is always give a 110 percent effort at 110 percent intensity.

Not quite sure if this answers your question.

Where did you copy that from?

B True

 

[louden_swain]

Re: Re: Re: Yates - Blood and Guts

Where did you copy that from?

B True

This is information that I have read through the years. . .I have followed Dorians career history since 1994.

 

[FatRat]

I have spoken to Dorian on many occasions about his training, and just like any other pro bodybuilder he used periodisation. In the off season I can confirm that he trained like he did in the video (or that’s what he and other members of his team have said to me), however yes, there are a lot of sub maximal warm up sets to build up to the maximum set.

As Louden posted, he had a number of injuries, which ultimately lead to his retirement. When it takes 30 mins of massage and stationary cycling just to get you loosened up enough to get you out of bed in the morning, then you know your body has taken enough punishment.

 

[tuc biscuit]

I have spoken to Dorian on many occasions about his training,

Really? details please.

 

[FatRat]

What details are you looking for Tuc? Off season much like Blood and Guts, in short intense periods, then adding some volume with isolation stuff closer to competition. Interestingly, he told me that he actually quite liked to use machines, but that is not something that is generally talked about.

Remember this is not one maximal set per bodypart, but one set over 4 or 5 exercises.

 

[tuc biscuit]

when and where did you talk to him, how big was he, were people staring at him, the type of things a wide eyed child would want to know, haha.

 

[FatRat]

Lol, I have contacts in the sup company he represents who sponsor most events in the UK, so after events the team plus hangers on (me) often go out for some food or to a bar or club. He's not so big anymore, still trains and is in good shape but noone that didnt know him would take a second look. Its funny, cos at most events they have a Pro over from the US, or Ernie Taylor is there, so obvioulsy they get the attention, and I wonder how Dorian feels.

You coming down to the Bitish Grand Prix? Dorian will be around there I expect.

 

[tuc biscuit]

been to the last three ones so I expect so

 

[needsize]

he is using really high intensity but is also doing a very low number of sets

 

[tuc biscuit]

he is using really high intensity but is also doing a very low number of sets

Yup, you can workout hard, or you can workout long, not both.


Paraphrasing mike menzer I think

 

[louden_swain]

Dorian did in fact use a lot of machines in his training program.

I know for a fact he was really big on using the smith machine and hammer strength equipment.

Make no mistake, he created the foundation of his body by using basic barbell movements.

I read an article a long time ago that Dorian started training in 1983. . . . by 1985, Dorian asked his future training partner to spot him on the bench press. . . .Dorian was able to knock out 10 reps using 315lbs after two years of training.

I also read that Dorian was using 585lbs on ass to floor squats for 12 reps (using the smith machine). . . Needless to say, Dorian never had weak legs.

 

[louden_swain]

I will be honest and confess that I used Dorians type of training when I became serious. I was able to make some incredible gains in size.

 

[Ogrelleh]

Are the drugs the reason why these guys lose so much size? It seems like all you would have to do is eat sufficient protein and do maintenance training to keep the bulk on. Atrophy of the muscle shouldn't happen that fast, right?