WOW~! Tren is G-O-D

[blut wump]

Milk is a good source of tryptophan which aids in sleep.

 

[elitetoxin]

So I'm headig into week 4 of my first time doing Tren. All I have to say is WOW! This shit is the amlighty. Never been more ripped than this.
Fina's got some serious punching power.
Merruy Christmas to me.

Sides:
Had a few night sweats, some short temper busts and some yellow urine from not enough water intake, but for the most part, sides are totally bearable. I admit, I was once skeptical of Tren because of the "terrible sides" bad rap and all that jazz, but for real, its nothing compared to a Test crash and the libido is out of control.

Cyc:
Tren Ace 75 mg ed
SUS 500 mg/week
Var 80mg/day
Stanz 30mg eod

yea, tren used to be my alltime favorite as well ... juice of the gods!

 

[52_21_30]

What would you suggest as a good length of time for a first time tren user?

50mgs ED 4 to 5 weeks, or 75mgs?

hmmm, i'd start at 50 mg ED for teh first 7-10 days. If you're not experiencing any sides then up it to 75 mg ED, but no more than that for a first run. Also, cap it at 6 weeks. What's very important when using tren is gauging how your body recovers (or doesn't) and how long it takes to do so. Then next time around you can experiment with higher doses of tren ace (if you choose), longer durations, or different preps (hex, enan, Trinabol)

 

[marshallmadman]

no bro, 250mg Sustanon EVERY DAY, 100mg Tren A EVERYDAY, 100mg Dbol EVERYDAY for 30 days straight...then off

trying to get on, hit it hard, then get off and recover......

I am experimenting with a short cycle, high dosed....so far I am blowing up, but I am holding water, this is only day 5 and I already am seeing a difference....

Good cycle there. I'll bet you feel like your head is going to explode from all that Dbol...I know I usually do when I run that much. Good luck to you my brother, and Merry Christmas.

 

[anabolic12]

hmmm, i'd start at 50 mg ED for teh first 7-10 days. If you're not experiencing any sides then up it to 75 mg ED, but no more than that for a first run. Also, cap it at 6 weeks. What's very important when using tren is gauging how your body recovers (or doesn't) and how long it takes to do so. Then next time around you can experiment with higher doses of tren ace (if you choose), longer durations, or different preps (hex, enan, Trinabol)

That sounds good... Last question for you, before I get my stock together for my first Tren Cycle... What type of PCt are you running with Tren.

All of my past cycles have include at least two or three of the following:

Sus, Winny, Anavar, Dbol, EQ, Prop

I have always only used Clomid and Nolva for my post... Just one of those things that seems to work for me

 

[52_21_30]

I have always only used Clomid and Nolva for my post... Just one of those things that seems to work for me

That's the name of the game right there. If it isnt broke, dont fix it. Personally, clomid fucks me up even more post cycle. I just use nolva and sometimes HCG. Tren has a tendency to shut you down hard and give marked testicular atrophy, so you might want to have HCG on hand. How to use HCG is somewhat of a debate. Many feel that it should be used throughout the cycle to cut down on testicular atrophy, other's prefer to use it during PCT with nolva. Personally, I run my PCT's much like the outline in the book "Anabolics 2006". That PCT was developed by Harvard docs who are experts in hormone replacement therapy and recovery from testicular atrophy. I believe it included clomid, nolva, and hcg and the whole process lasts about 6 weeks.

 

[iHulk]

no bro, 250mg Sustanon EVERY DAY, 100mg Tren A EVERYDAY, 100mg Dbol EVERYDAY for 30 days straight...then off

trying to get on, hit it hard, then get off and recover......

I am experimenting with a short cycle, high dosed....so far I am blowing up, but I am holding water, this is only day 5 and I already am seeing a difference....

Bro let me know how you recover from that much Test. I think I'd bloat too much for my liking but like you, I'm experimenting with shorter but greater strength cycles.

 

[iHulk]

Now that's a fucking kick ass cycle right there bro! Very well thought out. How long are you running it?

t'anks blue... Running it for about 5-6 weeks max.

 

[iHulk]

I've used tren many times with no cough, insomnia, or night sweats. Of course, I'm sure I just jinxed myself and will get the said sides this time around, as I'm taking the dose up to 125 mg/day for the first time (actually more like a shade over 100 mg/day). When it comes to sides, unfortunately it's very unpredictable from person to person. For example, many of us (myself included) experience intense anxiety as a major side effect of EQ. With tren, many suffer from hair loss, night sweats, chronic cough, and insomnia. It varies from person to person.

As far s an AI when using tren, it's sort of a misnomer. Tren does not aromatize, but the "gyno" it produces is a result of increased prolactin production (tren is a progestin), and the "lumps" you feel udner your nipples (like the ones I have right now ) are not true gynecomastia. As such, I prefer to use cabergoline when on tren. It's not the cheapest thing in the world, and I only use it when running tren with deca (this is not something I'd necessarily advise at all, just a personal stack - with test and other stuff - that works for me).

My advice would be, when you get around to it, do a simple test/tren cycle with tren acetate at no more than 75 mg EOD. This will allow you to stop it if the sides become unbearable, and it will be out of your system in days. If you use parabolan (tren hex), tren enan, or a blend like Trinabol, you're stuck with the sides for longer periods of time.

Anyway that's just my $.02 If anything here is inaccurate I trust the bro's on here will correct me

EXCELLENT post bro

 

[iHulk]

1. Yes, running ED is far superior to EOD as far as maintaining stable blood levels. Stable blood levels are directly related to sides or lack thereof. There is a post on the board that I can't seem to locate that had a link to a graph depicting the blood levels of tren ace when pinned ED vs EOD. After 3-5 days, the ED dosing schedule leveled off at a stable level, whereas the EOD had a sawtooth pattern with a considerable range.

2. Do not use Nolva with a progestin. Nolva up-regulates progesterone receptors and this is definitely the opposite of what you want when using something like tren, deca, etc. If anything, see if you can get some dostinex or bromocriptine.

3. Tren was designed to improve the QUALITY of muscle in farm animals reared for slaughter. I personally use tren for cutting/contest prep. It allows me to maintain all my LBM when on severe caloric restriction and at the same time makes me very, very strong. It also helps with muscle hardness/density, and vascularity (a byproduct of low bf%).

Hope this helped.

bumping this well thought out response. karma to ya brotha 52_21_30