would you rather have a gaye son/daughter or a retarded son/daughter?

[Lestat]

jnev,

althoiugh i agree with you and disagree with Gambino in this instance, I am not sure why you have to take it to a personal level.

You do not have to be a moral man in order to teach good morals.

 

[AAP]

and I apologize for the tone of the earlier posts
they're made in response to AAP's hateful demeanor

Your "gay men" experience is rather limited by the surroundings of you. For every one you can name in your example I can name 100 that it doesn't apply to.

You can't assimiliate YOUR experience with people w/ substance abuse problems on a measureable scale as it is not relevant. Birds of a feather flock together you know.... flawed observation.

 

[Spartacus]

alright you win
gaymen are the top tier
invite me to your next fantasy pool party

 

[heatherrae]

Gay. If Devin ended up being gay, the only thing that would hurt me would be the idea that I may not have grandkids, but heck grandkids aren't guaranteed with straight children, either...lol.

 

[H_T_]

people w/o kids should stfu.......thing change....

 

[delete]

alright you win
gaymen are the top tier
invite me to your next fantasy pool party

your invitation is in the mail; you will be the guest of honor.

 

[jnevin]

jnev,

althoiugh i agree with you and disagree with Gambino in this instance, I am not sure why you have to take it to a personal level.

You do not have to be a moral man in order to teach good morals.

Shut the fuck up.

 

[Lestat]

Shut the fuck up.

again you continue to side step any issues in favor of hostility and personal attacks.

therapy perhaps? scientology? I dunno.

 

[Spartacus]

sad that's what michigan has turned into, a hardscrabble place.
my pops used to tell me about how his fellow classmates dropped out in high school to go work factory auto jobs.
and they made good middle class lives for themselves, house in the burbs and a weekend retreat up north.
now in days you can't do that, even with a college degree

what's interesting is auto industry employment in the entire nation has remained relatively yhe same
they're just not building cars in the rust belt
the southeast is full of auto plants

 

[jnevin]

again you continue to side step any issues in favor of hostility and personal attacks.

therapy perhaps? scientology? I dunno.

I didn't side step any issues, and I compared apples to apples when he was talking about drugs.

So shut the fuck up and start a religion thread or some shit.

 

[Raptorex]

 

[Lestat]

I didn't side step any issues, and I compared apples to apples when he was talking about drugs.

So shut the fuck up and start a religion thread or some shit.

you disrepected bino based on his life's history in an attempt to imply (rather weakly) that since he wasn't perfect, he had no right to criticize anyone else.

I think we can all agree we're not perfect and fall short many times in life, isn't that what its all about?

I love debating issues, theology, philosophies etc. Getting into an e-pissing contest over who lives a better life seems point to me (but maybe not to all).

 

[jnevin]

you disrepected bino based on his life's history in an attempt to imply (rather weakly) that since he wasn't perfect, he had no right to criticize anyone else.

I think we can all agree we're not perfect and fall short many times in life, isn't that what its all about?

I love debating issues, theology, philosophies etc. Getting into an e-pissing contest over who lives a better life seems point to me (but maybe not to all).

Save it.

And shut the fuck up.

 

[Lestat]

Save it.

And shut the fuck up.

would sort of defeat the purpose of a internet message board wouldn't it.

And yeah, i know a lot of what I said is lost on many people, but that's just the way it goes.

 

[redsamurai]

your invitation is in the mail; you will be the guest of honor.

Oh oh.........I know what that means. Hey sparts..........if you see a pommel horse somewhere promenantly displayed at the party, run. And don't accept any drinks..........just run. Bad things borly...........bad things.........

 

[jnevin]

would sort of defeat the purpose of a internet message board wouldn't it.

And yeah, i know a lot of what I said is lost on many people, but that's just the way it goes.

 

[LuluDeren]

And yeah, i know a lot of what I said is lost on many people, but that's just the way it goes.

Lestat, you're supposed to imagine your audience nekkid, not stupid.

 

[Lestat]

Lestat, you're supposed to imagine your audience nekkid, not stupid.

whoops!

I don't think anyone is stupid per se, just different goals I think. I'm not working towards some afterlife, I don't see my life now as some throw away transitional step, so I put a lot into enjoy what I can while I can.

 

[wootoom]

Save it.

And shut the fuck up.

lol

 

[Spartacus]

your invitation is in the mail; you will be the guest of honor.

I'd go

 

[redsamurai]

I'd go

you might want to think about what "guest of honor" means sport. Still wanna go?

 

[Spartacus]

doesn't bother me

 

[delete]

you might want to think about what "guest of honor" means sport. Still wanna go?

now if you'd show up we can have 'co guests of honor' I have a special place reserved just for you.

 

[delete]

Oh oh.........I know what that means. Hey sparts..........if you see a pommel horse somewhere promenantly displayed at the party, run. And don't accept any drinks..........just run. Bad things borly...........bad things.........

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. pommel horse; you've given me another idea; what did YOU have in mind with that equipment? I was thinking more of the incline bench from the weight room.....butt, I'm open to suggestions..

 

[musclemom]

Way higher proportion of gay folks in pagan society versus "conventional" world. Frankly, I know WAY, WAY, WAY more straight people who abuse prescription medications, alcohol, illicit drugs and even tobacco than the homosexuals.

If how you feel about your child is influenced by who they love/have relationships with, you need to do some serious soul searching. As a parent, you should want your kid to be healthy and happy, who gives a shit who people sleep with?

 

[rnch]

....If how you feel about your child is influenced by who they love/have relationships with, you need to do some serious soul searching. As a parent, you should want your kid to be healthy and happy, who gives a shit who people sleep with?

EXCELLENT reply!

 

[Spartacus]

better run red

 

[binö]

'Bino's one of the best peoples on here. I think he's just cranky because he hasn't been able to rub one out for a while.

no fuck that, you don't get to have it both ways.
in one post you are hating, in the next you are praising my goodness.
pretty fucking weak, attacking me when you had nothing to do with the convo...pretty sure HT is more than capable of fending for himself.

 

[AAP]

Way higher proportion of gay folks in pagan society versus "conventional" world. Frankly, I know WAY, WAY, WAY more straight people who abuse prescription medications, alcohol, illicit drugs and even tobacco than the homosexuals.

And I won't even go into the higher percentage of crime being committed by straight conversative republican male christians.

 

[binö]

And I won't even go into the higher percentage of crime being committed by straight conversative republican male christians.

lol bro, that's such bullshit and you know it.
the crime that they are committing is being gaye and you live perscuting them for that

 

[AAP]

lol bro, that's such bullshit and you know it.
the crime that they are committing is being gaye and you live perscuting them for that

WRONG!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/141282/are_religious_children_committing_more.html

How do you explain that the 'Red' southern States, highly religious and Christian have much higher occurences of rape, murder, theft, incest, pregnancy, etc. compared to the North East?

Simple facts, solid logic. But be my guest. Try to argue them. I'll check back after lunch and see what kind of progress you have made.

 

[binö]

WRONG!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/141282/are_religious_children_committing_more.html

How do you explain that the 'Red' southern States, highly religious and Christian have much higher occurences of rape, murder, theft, incest, pregnancy, etc. compared to the North East?

Simple facts, solid logic. But be my guest. Try to argue them. I'll check back after lunch and see what kind of progress you have made.

lol at throwing up two links and making such a bold claim.
maybe you should include the fact that southern states are poorer states and have been since before the civil war...poverty, not christianity, is the cause of the crimes you speak of.
you have stepped outside the bounds of logic

 

[Spartacus]

nutjob

 

[Spartacus]

what a fuckin' dim bulb
hey AAP where'd you get your college degree?

 

[Spartacus]

are you really gay
or is it pretend gay?

I keep thinking I'm arguing with someone who pretends to be gay
like make believe
what is it?

 

[AAP]

lol at throwing up two links and making such a bold claim.
maybe you should include the fact that southern states are poorer states and have been since before the civil war...poverty, not christianity, is the cause of the crimes you speak of.
you have stepped outside the bounds of logic

where is your links to make a counter claim?

oh that's right... they aren't there.

keep looking. but just to go along with your claim of "states are poorer states and have been since before the civil war...poverty," yeah... I can play along with that. Even buy into it and believe it. After all religious people tend to be less intelligent than their counterparts so your claim there can be turned so it all fits together.

Then the simple little fact that ... ummm... what percent... want to tell us? Maybe find a link, maybe find a link for the FIRST TIME... what percentage of the prison population are Christians? Christians > atheists in jails.

 

[AAP]

what a fuckin' dim bulb
hey AAP where'd you get your college degree?

Since I already posted where I have gone to college, many times, on here. Perhaps you can search and find a link to that. Because you sure as shit haven't produced a link to anything else.

Don't worry, in your case, I am just writing your ramblings off as a result of the alcohol.

 

[jnevin]

no fuck that, you don't get to have it both ways.
in one post you are hating, in the next you are praising my goodness.
pretty fucking weak, attacking me when you had nothing to do with the convo...pretty sure HT is more than capable of fending for himself.

Dude, the way you went at him with the whole baby thing, it was basically going after me too, since the circumstances are pretty much the same.

Don't be a baby.

 

[Spartacus]

Since I already posted where I have gone to college, many times, on here. Perhaps you can search and find a link to that. Because you sure as shit haven't produced a link to anything else.

no you haven't
what's your deal with the alcohol?
you think I give a rat's ass?
why do you juice?
the bigger muscles concealing a handicap?
you're not a pro-athlete
I bet you have tiny penis

 

[Spartacus]

analassplorer

give me a fuckin' break

admin forced you to change your diaper name

 

[binö]

Dude, the way you went at him with the whole baby thing, it was basically going after me too, since the circumstances are pretty much the same.

Don't be a baby.

notice how he went at me first
how come you weren't defending me?
don't be such a baby and let a convo that has nothing to do with you effect you.
when and if you lose your job cause the mortgage industry is failing, you'll never hear me make a deragatory remark about it

 

[Spartacus]

mrplunkey's right
you start thread after thread after thread poking fun at something
hate this hate that
"you cant pwn me" type shit

 

[jerseyrugger76]

Per the annual ranking by Morgan Quinto using stats provided by the FBI, the split between Northern & Southern states is even when we look at the top 25 most dangerous cities. It's an interesting question though.

Most dangerous cities
City Crime rate: violent incidents per 100,000
St. Louis, MO 2,405.5
Detroit, MI 2,357.6
Flint, MI 2,260.2
Camden, NJ 2,096.7
Memphis, TN 1,860.0
Miami Gardens, FL 1,854.3
Orlando, FL 1,807.5
Compton, CA 1,786.9
Springfield, MA 1,774.2
Little Rock, AR 1,771.8
Trenton, NJ 1,770.6
Baltimore, MD 1,754.5
North Charleston, SC 1,724.5
Atlanta, GA 1,674.8
Nashville, TN 1,611.0
Miami, FL 1,579.7
St. Petersburg, FL 1,545.7
Pompano Beach, FL 1,520.7
Stockton, CA 1,491.4
Birmingham, AL 1,470.3
Philadelphia, PA 1,467.1
Kansas City, MO 1,459.2
Minneapolis, MN 1,454.2
Tampa, FL 1,430.5
Oakland, CA 1,420.

 

[binö]

where is your links to make a counter claim?

oh that's right... they aren't there.

keep looking. but just to go along with your claim of "states are poorer states and have been since before the civil war...poverty," yeah... I can play along with that. Even buy into it and believe it. After all religious people tend to be less intelligent than their counterparts so your claim there can be turned so it all fits together.

Then the simple little fact that ... ummm... what percent... want to tell us? Maybe find a link, maybe find a link for the FIRST TIME... what percentage of the prison population are Christians? Christians > atheists in jails.

you make it sooo easy
a plethora of factual info regarding how poor the south is overall
The 10 poorest states
The states with the lowest median household income
State Income
New Mexico $40,629
Montana $40,627
Tennessee $40,315
Kentucky $39,372
Louisiana $39,337
Alabama $38,783
Oklahoma $38,770
Arkansas $36,599
West Virginia $35,059
Mississippi $34,473


Source:U.S. Census Bureau

 

[jnevin]

notice how he went at me first
how come you weren't defending me?
don't be such a baby and let a convo that has nothing to do with you effect you.
when and if you lose your job cause the mortgage industry is failing, you'll never hear me make a deragatory remark about it

I'll never be out of work in this field.

 

[AAP]

no you haven't
what's your deal with the alcohol?
you think I give a rat's ass?
why do you juice?
the bigger muscles concealing a handicap?
you're not a pro-athlete
I bet you have tiny penis

Would you like to see a picture of my penis? Is that your 'queer' factor coming through on display? I began to suspect you hang around so many gay men for a reason. Not just for drinking buddies either.

 

[Lestat]

I have always found it interesting that:
1) The more religious a country, the higher the crime (look at some of the non religious countries in Europe with very low crime rates).
2) There are many more believers than non believers in Prison.

 

[jnevin]

I have always found it interesting that:
1) The more religious a country, the higher the crime (look at some of the non religious countries in Europe with very low crime rates).
2) There are many more believers than non believers in Prison.

I've noticed that too. Nasty shit like suicide bombings and stoning too.

 

[jerseyrugger76]

I have always found it interesting that:
1) The more religious a country, the higher the crime (look at some of the non religious countries in Europe with very low crime rates).
2) There are many more believers than non believers in Prison.

There are higher incidences on non-armed robbery and rape in countries like the ones you are referencing. They just have lower gun violence.

Of course there are more believers than atheists in prison, it's because there are more believers in the general population.

 

[AAP]

you make it sooo easy
a plethora of factual info regarding how poor the south is overall
The 10 poorest states
The states with the lowest median household income
State Income
New Mexico $40,629
Montana $40,627
Tennessee $40,315
Kentucky $39,372
Louisiana $39,337
Alabama $38,783
Oklahoma $38,770
Arkansas $36,599
West Virginia $35,059
Mississippi $34,473


Source:U.S. Census Bureau

BINGO!!!!

You just got knocked the fuck out!!!! You walked right into that fucking setup like punchdrunk boxer. God damn you just pwned yourself. 70% rate. Say goodnight baby. Thanks for playing. Come back again.

Top 10 Most Christian States in the U.S.A.
(Organizationally reported/affiliated adherents of Christian churches, 1990)
Rank State Percent Number
1 Utah 79.60% 1,371,000
2 North Dakota 75.90 485,000
3 Kentucky 75.10 754,000
4 Alabama 70.70 2,858,000
5 Louisiana 70.10 2,959,000
6 Mississippi 70.10 1,804,000
7 South Dakota 68.10 474,000
8 Oklahoma 66.50 2,097,000
9 Tennessee 64.20 2,807,000
10 Arkansas 63.90 3,125,000


Christian church adherents were defined as "all members, including full members, their children and the estimated number of other regular participants who are not considered as communicant, confirmed or full members."

Source: Table: Christian Church Adherents, U.S. States, 1990 in Statistical Abstract of the United States, 1997 (117th Edition); Washington, D.C.: U.S. Department of Commerce (October 1997). Data reprinted from M. Bradley; N. Green, Jr.; D. Jones; M. Lynn; and L. McNeil; Churches and Church Membership in the United States 1990, Glenmary Research Center, Atlanta, GA.
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[AAP]

mrplunkey's right
you start thread after thread after thread poking fun at something
hate this hate that
"you cant pwn me" type shit

Mrplunkey hasn't been right in, going on, well.... 5 days now. And I don't expect to see his trend changing in the future either.

Your's either.

Frustrating as hell when someone can argue with facts and logic and BACK THEIR SHIT UP, while all you have to fall back on is "personal experience", "I know 12 gay guys", "I go to gay bars" kind of bullshit statements.

You only say I hate it because you can't stomach the fact I find the entire thing entertaining as hell watching nimwits trip over themselves trying to calm their insecurities.

 

[binö]

BINGO!!!!

You just got knocked the fuck out!!!! You walked right into that fucking setup like punchdrunk boxer. God damn you just pwned yourself. 70% rate. Say goodnight baby. Thanks for playing. Come back again.

----

poverty is the root cause of why people committ crime, not because of their religion.

 

[binö]

I have always found it interesting that:
1) The more religious a country, the higher the crime (look at some of the non religious countries in Europe with very low crime rates).
2) There are many more believers than non believers in Prison.

1. in countries where religion was bannded, china and ussr for example, must have pratically no violence
2. in the bleak environment of prison, surely even a hardened atheist like yourself would be praising allah after serving 20 yrs

 

[jerseyrugger76]

yeh rite.....what do YOU know about poverty, bino, living there in upscale UP michigan, being supported by your family at age 30? the only "poverty striken" person you come across is the one who cleans your parent's house or the guy you buy your bags of grass from.......

Seems really, really harsh. Unnecessarily so.

 

[rnch]

Seems really, really harsh. Unnecessarily so.

yes, perhaps so.....i'll delete that reply.

 

[binö]

yeh rite.....what do YOU know about poverty, bino, living there in upscale UP michigan, being supported by your family at age 30? the only "poverty striken" person you come across is the one who cleans your parent's house or the guy you buy your bags of grass from.......

lol what do i know about poverty? i think you just explained it
and, unlike some of you who blow money on frivilous things, i've saved money over the years and now have a decent nest egg to live off...so i support myself
and i haven't bought a bag of anything since november

 

[AAP]

poverty is the root cause of why people committ crime, not because of their religion.

Are you denying a coorelation exists in those cases?

The common factors - poverty, conservative nature, Christainity, Republican, crime. Isolating one while denying the others is ignorant.

 

[Lestat]

This thread title is the perfect example of the hostile manner in which believers (or sympathizers) deal with things.

It'd be like me making a thread saying:

"Would you rather have a son/daughter grow up to be Christian, or paralyzed from the neck down?"

In one case at least the kid can still think for himself and use his entire brain...

 

[rnch]

lol what do i know about poverty? i think you just explained it
and, unlike some of you who blow money on frivilous things, i've saved money over the years and now have a decent nest egg to live off...so i support myself
and i haven't bought a bag of anything since november

"frivilous" things? 3 houses, education for my niece and nephews, contributing to a 401-K plan that will gaurantee me retirement at age 56.....yeh, i spend my money on "frivilous" things.....


i haven't lived off my parents since high school; even paid for my own college education.

how 'bout you???

 

[delete]

This thread title is the perfect example of the hostile manner in which believers (or sympathizers) deal with things.

It'd be like me making a thread saying:

"Would you rather have a son/daughter grow up to be Christian, or paralyzed from the neck down?"

In one case at least the kid can still think for himself and use his entire brain...

LOLOLOLOLOL; love the last sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[binö]

"frivilous" things? 3 houses, education for my niece and nephews, contributing to a 401-K plan that will gaurantee me retirement at age 56.....yeh, i spend my money on "frivilous" things.....


i haven't lived off my parents since high school; even paid for my own college education.

how 'bout you???

got the loans to prove it
and i haven't seen my parents since thanksgiving, nor lived off of them since i was in high school and got booted post-graduation

 

[billfred]

I am not going to read through 17 pages of comments before I say my peace here.

This poll is really just stupid.

I have a cousin who is mentally retarded and that has been a terrible burden on my aunt an uncle all their life. They love her to death and take great care of her but that is solid hard work man.

Having a gay offspring means nothing - I mean really. If that causes you some sort of hardship it is only from something you have created in your own mind.

 

[binö]

This thread title is the perfect example of the hostile manner in which believers (or sympathizers) deal with things.It'd be like me making a thread saying:

"Would you rather have a son/daughter grow up to be Christian, or paralyzed from the neck down?"

In one case at least the kid can still think for himself and use his entire brain...

lol nice try bro, i'm just as much as a atheist as you are
only i respect others descions for the most part

 

[redsamurai]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. pommel horse; you've given me another idea; what did YOU have in mind with that equipment? I was thinking more of the incline bench from the weight room.....butt, I'm open to suggestions..

have you gotten laid recently bro? If not, I think you might need to.........your imagination is certainly running away from you.

 

[rnch]

...got booted post-graduation

 

[Raptorex]

Fuck you guys are smart, I can't keep up with all these sadistics and stuff - are you guys demographers?

I'm out.

Oh and my pussy hurts.

 

[delete]

have you gotten laid recently bro? If not, I think you might need to.........your imagination is certainly running away from you.

haven't gotten laid in '08; you're right; sometimes just reading posts here is enough to give me a woody.

 

[tanka]

After very little reflection, having some intuitive grasp of the errrr, .....many joys and deep inner complexities of the gay nefarious life style.Its a very tough call bro. NEITHER.

 

[AAP]

tanka you little bitch. you show that ugly mug of yours around here again? damn. you are solid evidence that even retards deserve a chance to vote on this poll.

now go fix me a sammich bitch.

 

[tanka]

aap,my sanctimonious, supercilious, princess.Your all hot air.When you finally go in for the full operation those breasts in your avatar will really suit you dear.Nice choice.You do have good taste after all.

 

[borris]

lol @ the battles going on in this thread

 

[rnch]

tanka you little bitch. you show that ugly mug of yours around here again? damn. you are solid evidence that even retards deserve a chance to vote on this poll.

now go fix me a sammich bitch.

this tool box is back but Phaded is STILL banned?

 

[tracemhunter]

Gay for sure. A gay person's job can be anything and they can live on their own. A retard is limited to pushing carts at Kroger and giving smilie face stickers to children at Wal-Mart.

 

[AAP]

aap,my sanctimonious, supercilious, princess.Your all hot air.When you finally go in for the full operation those breasts in your avatar will really suit you dear.Nice choice.You do have good taste after all.

Whew! For a minute there I thought he called me Sugarlicious.

Then I remembered he was too dimwitted to come up with an insult that degrading.

 

[Spartacus]

lol @ the battles going on in this thread

I'm in foul trouble
coach seated me