Would consider this a mild or heavy cycle?

[omega529]

Sustanon weeks 1-6 750mg/week
Prop weeks 7-10 100mg EOD
Halotestin week 1-3 and weeks 7-9 20mg/day
Tren week 6-13 225mg/week
Winstrol weeks 10-14 125mg/EOD
HGH 2iu weeks 4-24

AIFM WEEKS 1-18
Provion

Milk thistle weeks 1-16

Goals:
Increase strength, build 10-15lbs of muscle, Cut up (well more like shredded)

 

[Quadsweep]

Kinda middle...long though!

Q.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I would call it a poorly thought out cycle. Winstrol eod? Tren once a week? ? Halo? Starting with sust then going to prop... why not just run prop start to finish?

 

[fbodyguy02]

I will say it all depends on the person, and thier experience with AS. In my opinion, this cycle is heavy.

 

[oxymed]

I will say it all depends on the person

this sums it up..........but looks mild to me

 

[mr.nitro]

id say heavy, but not the heavyest ive seen

 

[omega529]

I would call it a poorly thought out cycle. Winstrol eod? Tren once a week? ? Halo? Starting with sust then going to prop... why not just run prop start to finish?

I have had good results with winny at 125mg EOD......Tren will be ran at 225mg per week (split into 2 injects).....Halo is for intensity or workout as well as strength......the reason that im starting with the sust, is because i want to do a bit of bulk, followed by the cut faze, the prop is to stay on a test, so i can develop a good solid gain........I did think it out.....But some adjustments may still be made.

 

[jagerbombme]

looks interesting.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I have had good results with winny at 125mg EOD......Tren will be ran at 225mg per week (split into 2 injects).....Halo is for intensity or workout as well as strength......the reason that im starting with the sust, is because i want to do a bit of bulk, followed by the cut faze, the prop is to stay on a test, so i can develop a good solid gain........I did think it out.....But some adjustments may still be made.

Tren has milder side effects on daily injections. Winstrol clears the system faster. It works best if you drink it and splite the dose twice a day. Halo is pretty toxic stuff and tren will yield better strength gains, but to each their own.

 

[omega529]

Tren has milder side effects on daily injections. Winstrol clears the system faster. It works best if you drink it and splite the dose twice a day. Halo is pretty toxic stuff and tren will yield better strength gains, but to each their own.

yeah, but halo is a toxic oral, so is winny, and tren.....although tren and winny arent as toxic as halo, it still isnt suggested that you take another oral with halo.....am i correct?.......I also have metribolone, witch is much more toxic the halo.....maybee i should drop the tren and halo, and just do .25-.5 mg ED of metribolone for 2-4 weeks (orally).....

 

[Knight9]

poorly planned out cycle sums it up. keep it simple.
hgh for 20 weeks? 4-24? at that dose daily you should be running it minimum 6 months.

 

[omega529]

i truthfully dont see the problem with the cycle, it seems like a good cycle to me, that will have the ability to help me meet my goals, time and dossage may need to be adjusted though i have another 3 weeks before start......

Sustanon weeks 1-6 = bulk
Prop weeks 7-10 =lean bulk
Halo= strength, harder and denser muscle
tren weeks 6-13=hard muscle, cutter
winstrol weeks 10-14=cut
HGH=physique, fat cutter....however..i agree i should bump it up to 6 month

This cycle seems like what

Maybe add primo and/or masteron

 

[Knight9]

id just keep it simpler. its lots of compunds you are plugging in and giving each chemical its own purpose and result. nothing replaces hard work and dedication. you need nothing more than test prop to cut..and you dont even neccessarily need that to be successful. winny and tren are other add ons id consider for pre contest type cutting. your list keeps getting longer and longer...maybe this maybe that.

 

[omega529]

id just keep it simpler. its lots of compunds you are plugging in and giving each chemical its own purpose and result. nothing replaces hard work and dedication. you need nothing more than test prop to cut..and you dont even neccessarily need that to be successful. winny and tren are other add ons id consider for pre contest type cutting. your list keeps getting longer and longer...maybe this maybe that.

I work hard, im dedicated.....and last time i was on test prop for 12 weeks @400mg/week it did not help me cut, it gave me strength and put on muscle....my bf% did drop however when i upped my cardio and diet, this was about 2 months after that cycle and PCT was over......also, many of these compound work well together.....but i guess the only way we will really know is when its done......Sust does wounders for me, i like prop, it helps me build muscle without the water, winstroll worked well for me last time i was on it @ 125mg EOD. Tren/winny/halo, maybee hard on the liver, but these are precontest type stacks.

 

[mr.nitro]

the only difference between prop and sust. is a little water retention. its not really like your any leaner, your just not as bloated. I would keep it simple and only use the sust. (actually I prefer enthanate)

and why do you feel the need to bulk and cut in the same cycle?

 

[lifthard2005]

very mild. this is heavy:

Weeks 1-16 Test E @ 1500mg/wk
Weeks 1-12 Deca @ 600mg/wk
Weeks 1-16 EQ @ 1200mg/wk
Weeks 1-4, 9-12 Dbol @ 100mg ed
Weeks 17-21 Prop @ 100mg eod (or 50mg ed)
Weeks 17-21 Tren A @ 100mg eod (or 50mg ed)
Weeks 17-21 Masteron @ 100mg eod (or 50mg ed)
Weeks 17-21 Winstrol @ 150mg ed
Weeks 1-21 AIFM as needed

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I typically consider a mild cycle anything under 900mgs/week, a moderate dose cycle is anything from 901mgs to 1800mgs, and anything over that I consider a heavy cycle. It's arbitrary, but basically under a gram is mild (enough), under 2 is moderate, and over 2g/week is heavy.

So my current cycle of 100mgs of Prop EOD and 25mgs of Anavar per day is just over half a gram of anabolics per week, and I think it to be a pretty mild cycle. My 4g/week cycle was certainly heavy.

I guess I agree with Quadsweep in his asessment of this being a middle of the road cycle.

 

[caliboy]

Yeah middle of the road. i find bulking/cutting cycles too hard on me, but if it works for you....

 

[omega529]

the only difference between prop and sust. is a little water retention. its not really like your any leaner, your just not as bloated. I would keep it simple and only use the sust. (actually I prefer enthanate)

and why do you feel the need to bulk and cut in the same cycle?

maybee for you....but for me i saw a big difference in the 2......i put on alot of muscle with my last sust cycle (not nearly as much with prop) and the water retention wasent bad at all.....my last sust cycle i gained about 10lbs of muscle and lost approx 1 lb after my PCT was over....i was 160 when i started, at the verry end i was 170, 2 weeks after pct was over i was 169....and it stayed stable....

i wouldnt so much call it a bulk/cut cycle as i would a leans meass type cycle......

 

[DJ_UFO]

Seems like an average cycle but too long. I'd divide it in 2 cycles, or do one heavier and shorter.

 

[omega529]

Seems like an average cycle but too long. I'd divide it in 2 cycles, or do one heavier and shorter.

That makes sence......i think, ill try to work something like that out.