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Would appreciate some advice 1st time cycle

Kyo 2

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I'm not new to the gym by any means,I'm 25 years old been in the gym since I was 19 and active in karate since I was 16. I wake up every morning and hit the gym for at least 2 hrs then do 30 to 40 mins cardio before leaving. I'm 5'6 and wiegh 148 lbs. Ive been taking the BSn supplements for most of last year trying to gain naturally,Truemass,Cellmass,Nitrix,No-xplode ect. I have seen a great deal of defintion and hardening but I cant really gain anything. I started researching gear a while ago when a freind told me it might help. I have come to the conclusion that a stack of deca durabolin and primobolin would assist me in gaining without overdoing it. I would really appreiate anybodys advice on this. I want to gain but I dont want it to look outa proportation since I'm shorter than most and I really would like to keep my cuts. my stack would look like this.

wk1, 200 mg deca
wk2, 200 mg deca
wk3, 400mg deca, 100 mg primo
wk4, 400mg deca, 200 mg primo
wk5 400mg deca, 300 mg primo
wk6 200mg deca, 200 mg primo
wk7 200mg deca, 200 mg primo


Anybody opion on adjusting this cycle or adding would be helpfull. And if I follow this stack what do u guys think I will gain from it?
 
You can't gain because you lift every day for 2+ hours and do 45mins cardio.

Lift one hour 3-4 days a week and drop cardio for now.
 
eddie2425 said:
btw, if you do a cycle don't do Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for a first! Hit a Test only cycle. 500mg week for 10 weeks.


Ill try to cut back on the lifting and cardio and see what happens. but why do u say not to use deca? I thought it was one of the safest steriods available.
 
Kyo 2 said:
Ill try to cut back on the lifting and cardio and see what happens. but why do u say not to use Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - ? I thought it was one of the safest steriods available.


One more ?. Just for kicks what do u think this stack would do if I added it to my routine? Would I get more cut or would it help at all?
 
Kyo 2 said:
One more ?. Just for kicks what do u think this stack would do if I added it to my routine? Would I get more cut or would it help at all?
Did someone give you this advice for you or is this something you created on your own?

That is a terrible first cycle and stack. Primobolan and Deca-Durabolin - with no Test in there is not a good idea. Plus the way you have it set out and it only being 8 weeks long. Also the tapering of doseages and the very little time you would be on Primobolan - methenolone - you will get almost NOTHING out of that stack.

Here is a good first time run

weeks 1-10 500mgs Test Enanthate
and PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . That's it.

Keep it simple. Also do research on the compounds you are planning to use. There is a ton of good info out there that can really assist you. Please do alot of research and you will see why that stack really is not a good idea. Just trying to help you.
 
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cut out cardio all together if u r trying to gain especially at 148 (even at your height), unless u absolutely need the cardiovascular conditioning for a sport or something.

deca without test....bad idea.
 
Do yourself a favor and just run a test only cycle, 500mg/wk for 12 weeks.

DURING that time get some education on stacking AAS. You need to do some reading, bro. We are happy to help. But learn some more about which AAS compliment each other and which don't.
 
BOWTECH said:
Did someone give you this advice for you or is this something you created on your own?

That is a terrible first cycle and stack. Primobolan and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - with no Test in there is not a good idea. Plus the way you have it set out and it only being 8 weeks long. Also the tapering of doseages and the very little time you would be on Primobolan - methenolone - you will get almost NOTHING out of that stack.

Here is a good first time run

weeks 1-10 500mgs Test Enanthate
and PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - . That's it.

Keep it simple. Also do research on the compounds you are planning to use. There is a ton of good info out there that can really assist you. Please do alot of research and you will see why that stack really is not a good idea. Just trying to help you.

this is something I came to on my own actually. I based it on reveiws of deca being a good base steriod for athletes and the classic deca cycle. then I reseached primo and it said it was also a very safe steriod and used for cutting toward the end of a cycle. I guess my research was incorrect thank you all for ur advice.
 
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