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Got my blood work done. Dr. called me today. Said my liver and kidneys were fine, which shocked me since I take alot of 17aa's but also take Tyler's :)
Anyway, the part of the results that sucks is the Cholesterol and HDL. Cholesterol was 219 and HDL was 13! How do I get my HDL up to where its supposed to be (in the 40's i think)???? Also, the Dr. kinda made it sound like this was REALLY bad, like I'm going to die soon if I don't get it higher, is it me or is he trying to tell me I'm gonna be 6 ft. deep

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What the doc told you is true. But that's because he doesn't know what is the real cause of those levels. But in his position, assuming that you are a regular guy that only goes to the gym and have a normal diet and have those cholesterol levels since who knows when, is easy to say that you heart will not survive 10 years with those arteries full of crap. Now since we know what is the cause, don't worry. Probably your levels were normal before cycle and you can restore them with a proper supplement nutrition and cardio excercise.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Got my blood work done. Dr. calle me today. Said my liver and kidneys were fine, which shocked me since I talk alot of 17aa's but also take Tyler's :)
Anyway, the part of the results that sucks is the Cholesterol and HDL. Cholesterol was 219 and HDL was 13! How do I get my HDL up to where its supposed to be (in the 40's i think)???? Also, the Dr. kinda made it sound like this was REALLY bad, like I'm going to die soon if I don't get it higher, is it me or is he trying to tell me I'm gonna be 6 ft. deep

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What were you using in terms of gear? Winstrol?
 
mr.cuts said:
What were you using in terms of gear? Winstrol?
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wtf says here?
lol
 
djufo said:
wtf says here?
lol
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What??? I was just asking what he was using in his cycle. Certain drugs like winstrol are known to dramatically lower HDL and raise LDL.
 
my HDL's went from 17 to 34 in exactly one month.

Niacin, flax oil, high fiber diet, nolvadex, dropped the orals.

I am sure you could make dramatic changes in a short period of time.

Now the doc on the other hand is worried because he thinks you just have bad cholesterol, not AAS induced skewed values.
 
You can't use steroids and not have a ridiculous lipid panel. It's just comes with the territory. Fortunately it's of little consequence since it only lasts as long as your cycle and recovery does. If you had that test 3 months after your cycle you'd be fine. Short term flucuations in your lipid profile have not been show to result in CAD in the long term. Polycosanol and Nicotinic Acid will improve your numbers. Take the Polycosanol before bed.
 
Ulter said:
You can't use steroids and not have a ridiculous lipid panel. It's just comes with the territory. Fortunately it's of little consequence since it only lasts as long as your cycle and recovery does. If you had that test 3 months after your cycle you'd be fine. Short term flucuations in your lipid profile have not been show to result in CAD in the long term. Polycosanol and Nicotinic Acid will improve your numbers. Take the Polycosanol before bed.
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I have been on deca and test for over a year non-stop and my lipid levels are great. The last time I had them checked, which was around one month ago, my HDL was 45 and LDL 65, total cholesterol was 130.
 
Ulter said:
You can't use steroids and not have a ridiculous lipid panel. It's just comes with the territory. Fortunately it's of little consequence since it only lasts as long as your cycle and recovery does. If you had that test 3 months after your cycle you'd be fine. Short term flucuations in your lipid profile have not been show to result in CAD in the long term. Polycosanol and Nicotinic Acid will improve your numbers. Take the Polycosanol before bed.
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I had my levels checked after being off for about 6 weeks and my levels were all good. And I used Winstrol in that cycle. Either it didn't affect me or I rebounded very quickly from it. I also use flax everyday. You might want to try some ipriflavone. It did wonders for a friend of mine along with flax oil.
 
Ulter said:
You can't use steroids and not have a ridiculous lipid panel. It's just comes with the territory. Fortunately it's of little consequence since it only lasts as long as your cycle and recovery does. If you had that test 3 months after your cycle you'd be fine. Short term flucuations in your lipid profile have not been show to result in CAD in the long term. Polycosanol and Nicotinic Acid will improve your numbers. Take the Polycosanol before bed.
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Thanks Ulter,
My cycles have been 750 Enatat 400 deca, 50mg winny ed. I did have the test done almost one week after my last shot of the cycle. I'm sure if I continue with proper PCT and Polycosanol and Nicotinic Acid to improve my numbers it will work. I'll let you know what they are like after my PCT.
 
Where can i get Polycosanol and Nicotinic Acid
and
How do i talk to my Dr. -which he wants to do- about the reason it's so high. like i said before, the cholest. is the only thing abnormal about my blood test.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
you do cardio, take cholest. supps or what?
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I don't take any cholesterol supplements or drugs. I do cardio everday and try to maintain a strict diet. I also take in alot of fish oil caps, I have heard that omega-3's(especially fish oil) can be helpful in maintaining a healthy heart.
 
Ulter said:
At what dose do you use those year round?
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I use 200mg of deca and 250mg of test enathate every 5-7 days. Every once in awhile I will throw in d-bol at 30-40 mg for a few weeks.
 
Low HDL is much worse than high LDL. Your risk of heart attack and stroke are very high with those numbers. Still do not know the exact cause of my heart attack but I have always had super low HDL as well and they may have been a big part of how the clot formed. My total cholesterol was always below 200 and averaged about 150. They are actually making drugs as we speak to get rid of this problem for good. They say in 5 years artery disease will be no longer thanks to synthetic HDL by injection. It will clean out the arteries fast. Do little research and you will find some good food and supps to raise that HDL up ASAP. I would stop cycle and take care of this now. It is serious.

http://www.loweringcholesterol.net/show/raise-hdl-cholesterol
 
KA-BAR said:
Low HDL is much worse than high LDL. Your risk of heart attack and stroke are very high with those numbers. Still do not know the exact cause of my heart attack but I have always had super low HDL as well and they may have been a big part of how the clot formed. My total cholesterol was always below 200 and averaged about 150. They are actually making drugs as we speak to get rid of this problem for good. They say in 5 years artery disease will be no longer thanks to synthetic HDL by injection. It will clean out the arteries fast. Do little research and you will find some good food and supps to raise that HDL up ASAP. I would stop cycle and take care of this now. It is serious.

http://www.loweringcholesterol.net/show/raise-hdl-cholesterol
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cycle's over
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
cycle's over
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Like Ka-bar said, definitely take this seriously. If I were you I would stay away from winstrol. The negative effects that it has on the lipid profile is the reason why I avoid it.
 
mr.cuts said:
Like Ka-bar said, definitely take this seriously. If I were you I would stay away from winstrol. The negative effects that it has on the lipid profile is the reason why I avoid it.
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good point, i'll avoid :)
I am glad I got this checked out, am glad that i am learning about what sides have come my way, luckily this is the only one that is serious, and thanks to all of you who've given advise and recommendations
 
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