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Wish someone could offer me proof of God's existance

we seriously have a lack of threads about religion here at EF
 
digger said:
Ooh, good one. That's the shocker at the end of the Majabharata, which is sort of the Hindu "Bible."

Arjuna, the demigod we've been following for about 6,000 pages (this is a THICK book!) finally gets to heaven, and the only people there are his bitter, life-long mortal enemies, all smiling, happy, waiting to give him a big hug and say "Arjuna, welcome! All is forgiven!... Oh, your wife, your brothers, your son whom we killed? They're all in hell. Sorry about that."

Someday I really have to watch the rest of "What Dreams May Come." The setup really has me hooked... the guy's kids die, a few years later he dies trying to help someone and so goes to Heaven; his wife kills herself in despair at losing her entire family, and she goes to Hell.

So he goes to find her.

Now that's a story!
I bought that DVD recently
waiting for someone to enjoy it with
 
4everhung said:
I bought that DVD recently
waiting for someone to enjoy it with
where do you live, I'll send sawastea over.
 
strangebrew said:
I don't buy the whole "if you search with all your heart you'll find him" BS.

How do you tell the difference between a placebo and the real thing? Isn't it odd that the majority of people who become christians (who weren't born into it) are in bad places in their lives and are desperately searching for an answer. The mind is capable of believing anything if you try hard enough.

Much like Lestat, I'm also a former christian. I pretty much dedicated the early years of my life to serving something which I now realize, was entirely fabricated by my own mind. I even stopped masturbating for a whole year because I thought it was sinful. Now that's some fucking dedication.

Seriously though, I felt incredibly free when I "quit" God.
No not the majority, but unfortunately it takes a good "slap in the face" for alot of people to accept Him and follow. I'll say it again, not being a Christian or following attempting to follow Christian morals is the EASIEST thing to do, anyone can do it. What everyone finds out to be the hardest thing to do in life is to follow God's lead and accept what life throws them and know that God is in control. No Christian is perfect, not even close. But when you're blatantly saying "i don't care anymore" that's giving up and yea you're life may seem awesome while you do "your thing" but trust you me, that "slap in your face" will come sooner or later and LEAST when you expect it to. Do horrible things happen to Christians? Yes, the same problems happen to all types of people whether your a junkie or a pastor. The difference is that one of the two has God is their corner AND is actually asking him for help! Many times it hits you throughout your life if do dabble with following then straying away. I know that from experience.
 
DBBT said:
No not the majority, but unfortunately it takes a good "slap in the face" for alot of people to accept Him and follow. I'll say it again, not being a Christian or following attempting to follow Christian morals is the EASIEST thing to do, anyone can do it. What everyone finds out to be the hardest thing to do in life is to follow God's lead and accept what life throws them and know that God is in control. No Christian is perfect, not even close. But when you're blatantly saying "i don't care anymore" that's giving up and yea you're life may seem awesome while you do "your thing" but trust you me, that "slap in your face" will come sooner or later and LEAST when you expect it to. Do horrible things happen to Christians? Yes, the same problems happen to all types of people whether your a junkie or a pastor. The difference is that one of the two has God is their corner AND is actually asking him for help! Many times it hits you throughout your life if do dabble with following then straying away. I know that from experience.

Bro, that slap in the face has already happend. I don't need "God" to cope with it.
 
Thanks alot. I just got my copy last week and now you've ruined the ending. No point in reading it now.




digger said:
Ooh, good one. That's the shocker at the end of the Majabharata, which is sort of the Hindu "Bible."

Arjuna, the demigod we've been following for about 6,000 pages (this is a THICK book!) finally gets to heaven, and the only people there are his bitter, life-long mortal enemies, all smiling, happy, waiting to give him a big hug and say "Arjuna, welcome! All is forgiven!... Oh, your wife, your brothers, your son whom we killed? They're all in hell. Sorry about that."

Someday I really have to watch the rest of "What Dreams May Come." The setup really has me hooked... the guy's kids die, a few years later he dies trying to help someone and so goes to Heaven; his wife kills herself in despair at losing her entire family, and she goes to Hell.

So he goes to find her.

Now that's a story!
 
digger said:
Someday I really have to watch the rest of "What Dreams May Come." !

very good movie actually. Robin Williams is in it.

Whiskey
 
Are the Muslims going to heaven?



DBBT said:
No not the majority, but unfortunately it takes a good "slap in the face" for alot of people to accept Him and follow. I'll say it again, not being a Christian or following attempting to follow Christian morals is the EASIEST thing to do, anyone can do it. What everyone finds out to be the hardest thing to do in life is to follow God's lead and accept what life throws them and know that God is in control. No Christian is perfect, not even close. But when you're blatantly saying "i don't care anymore" that's giving up and yea you're life may seem awesome while you do "your thing" but trust you me, that "slap in your face" will come sooner or later and LEAST when you expect it to. Do horrible things happen to Christians? Yes, the same problems happen to all types of people whether your a junkie or a pastor. The difference is that one of the two has God is their corner AND is actually asking him for help! Many times it hits you throughout your life if do dabble with following then straying away. I know that from experience.
 
Muslims, Jews, and Christians all believe in the same God. They are all Abrahamic religions and have many parallels. One would think that they all share the same fate whether it be heaven or simply lack of life :-)
 
I heard a story today that made my eyes water. Sam is retired from the Air Force and from Yellow Freight. He is 72 years old. Every morning he takes his grandson to the school where I work. He waits in his car for 6 hours until his grandson is out of school. He gets out, walks around and talks my ears off sometimes. Anyone would be lucky to have a granddad like Sam.
Today, Sam was telling me how he met his wife of 52 years and how much he still loves her. Shit made my eyes water. He was on leave from the Air Force during the time of the Korean War, he was visiting his gf in Paris, Texas. Sam knew this wasn't gonna be the girl he married, so he decided to leave early. Sam prayed out loud to God to find him a wife. As he got on the Greyhound Bus to go back home to Mobile, Alabama, he laid eyes on one of the prettiest girls he'd ever seen. She lived in Dallas. Sam persuaded her to let him sit down beside her (he's a very persuasive man). During the bus ride, he got her address after pestering her long enough. She had prayed the same thing that he did that day before she got on that bus. He wrote her letters from Puerto Rico for 6 months and then surprised her by coming home early and not telling her. They were married 2 weeks later. Well, I don't know if that had anything to do with God, but it's a damn good and happy story.
 
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