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lol bro u wouldnt run more then 400mg test? but ud run 600mg deca?

no offence man but thats pretty dumb

u dont seriosuly think running 600mg deca is safer then 400mg of test?

not trying to be harsh

why dont u run ur test at 500 and ur deca at 300mg then

I sayd id run 500mg test no higher. Yeah unsure of the deca dosa but I think the 600mg would be fine. Not dumb everyone has a prefrence. The 600mg deca was something I just looked at trying. Hence why im here looking for suggestions :) and hence why I sayed I would consider lowering its dose :).

Harry
 
If you havent got your stuff yet you might consider NPP in place of the Deca. Not quite as bad on the sides and clears your system much more quickly. Also you might want to give cgar 1228 a pm on this. He had a not so good experience with deca and he learned a lot as far as pct goes.
And last thing, remember that it takes a long long time to clear the deca from your system, and you need lots of carbs with it too.
Best of luck to you bro!
 
lol bro u wouldnt run more then 400mg test? but ud run 600mg deca?

no offence man but thats pretty dumb

u dont seriosuly think running 600mg deca is safer then 400mg of test?

not trying to be harsh

why dont u run ur test at 500 and ur deca at 300mg then

Yepp agreed 100% with thatbloke

What kinda flawed logic is behind that?
 
Not flawed logic as it was never certain. Hence why its up for discussion and suggestions :). The deca dose may be high but like I sayed it was just something I was thinking of trying. The test dose to keep me stable nothing more. The deca so high to see its effects. I take ThatBlokes comments into consideration and hes probably correct and I will relook my cycle. Thats the whole point in this thread and in general this forum.

Thanks ZedHed. Will do.

Harry
 
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Good luck with the cycle Harry , its great to see someone keeping an open mind and re-jigging things as per the genuine advice being offered.
Alot of people post up there proposed run and get defensive as fuck when folks start chiming in with sugestions.

My 2 cents would be to run the test @500mg and deca @ 300mg.
and props to Nelson and thatbloke for offering good advice ...
 
Thanks columbo!
I rant and rave about people who ask for advice and get defencive and reject it so I try my best to take into consideration everything posted when I ask for comments :) if I didnt want feedback hey I woudnt have posted lol. Nice to see everyone elses different opinions.

After reading the comments I have seen sence and went with the lower 300mg Deca option. Think I will keep the test dose 400mg for now and possibly relook the situation a few weeks in depending on how I feel.
Thanks guys.

Harry
 
Updated cycle. After reading comments my new doeses are as stated.

Week 1 - 13 Test 400 @ 400mg / week
Week 1 - 12 Deca @ 300mg / week
Week 1 - 4 DBol @ 20mg / day
Week 9 - 12 Beastdrol @ 30mg / day

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Week 1-14 hcg 250 ius
Week 1-12 Arimidex 0.50 / E3D
Week 1-12 N2Guard

Week 14-18 Clomid 100mg ED
Week 14-18 Unleashed & Post Cycle
Week 14-22 Bridge & Gear


Only thing Im considering now is an extended PCT. Everyone knows how hard deca is to recover from. Just wondering what the suggestions are for an extra 8 weeks PCT. What would you use? Im think of just adding and extra 8 weeks of Unleashed to help with my natural test levels.

Harry
 
Are you planning on competing?

This is certainly something most of you shouldnt do...
But I'd throw 800mg+ masteron e/week on top of everything - it will do what winny does to deca minus the joint pain. Avoid the anti-e's as much as possible. Hit the anti-e's very hard at week 5, run a course of HCG then and then hit it hard again at the end.

Your diet will dictate how much water you retain
 
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